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Ya having the update as two separate purchases would be nice for some but it is not. This is really becoming a bitch and whine thread. Lets move on to any one who has tried the update and related things.

Hey John,

A while back I got pretty serious in trying to do something like this and the best thing we could come up with is making a seperate DAQ or SCADA system that outputted a standard video feed in to the AVIC's video in. Down sides are no interface with the touchscreen (you need a mouse), and no integration with the AVIC system (no mix of info and media also the alarms for sensors would only be useful while on the dashboard screen). If you really want this stuff the only option I know of is to ditch the AVIC and basically build your own NAVI (carputer). If you find something better please let us know.

The current Pioneer 12-disk CD changer hasn't changed in almost a decade. They were long done investing in changer technology. Think of it like Pioneer would from a profit standpoint. For every 1000 Z110s they sold, somethin like 1% of people would actually use a DVD changer. That same ridiculously low amount of people can figure out how to use the XDVP6 if they REALLY needed it so there is no use for Pioneer to spend more than a penny to develop a new 12 disk changer to accomodate those folks.

Ya I see your point. I would just like to see the XDVP6 be a little more integrated. Oh well. But maybe they are heading more towards SS. Assuming that lack of a max on USB listed in the 120 manual is correct.

... I saw that the newer 120BT didn't mention a file size restriction on USB... versus the 110BT(16GB)....

I noticed this too. That was one thing that kinda discouraged me about the 110.

I agree that iPod are a better solution for the average user wanting large media storage but what I would like to see is better support for drives. Being able to add a large HDD or SSD would kick. Just think you could have a TB of storage for media!

CD changers are yesterdays news. Kinda like VCR's when you have a DVD player. The future is with the iPod as a mass store media device.

I kinda agree with CDs but the XDV-P6 is also a DVD changer. Using 6 DVDs would still kick. Actually you would think they would make one of those 12 cd changers to a DVD changer. And if they are really heading towards using mostly SSD instead of optical you would think they would design them with out the low max on the flash drives.

I feel they should run MSN Direct/Traffic/Weather services all through Bluetooth via tethering with a mobile phone. That way your coverage is limited to where you get service with your cell phone.

Ya I would guess something like this will happen. I was thinking they would use something like the cell units in the on-star modules (I think those are basically a high wattage cell phone) that is wired to the HU like the other add on units. This would also line up with the MSN comment of

... many choices today including WiFi, Cellular, FM RDS and other digital networks are now readily available and are continuing to grow in popularity ... As such, Microsoft has made the decision to focus future U.S. and Canada investments on these existing network connections...

I am thinking of this is kinda like the analog to digital conversion earlier this year for TV. Same data (actually more) will be broadcaster just in a better method. The down side is you will need some new HW to receive and convert things. And in reality this is a service provided by one company not a national standard so things likely were not planed out by end users.

This does suck but think of the position Pioneer is in. There is a good chance they found out about this not too much before we did. And if so, they will need some time to figure out what a solution will actually be. Do you expect them to tell customers specifics about fix on a system while they are still planning it out? All I really expect them to say now is, Sorry for the inconvenience and we will get this fixed. Now if that is all they have to say in ~6 months then I will go in to WTF mode.

You could just do the speed limit.

I guess I could . But I would rather look at what is going on in an intersection then check my exact speed and then try and remember what the speed limit is. But as you mentioned the POI will not help this because you really need a prompt well before the intersection. Oh well.

Or you could just stop at red lights like you're supposed to.

True but in many places "red light" cams are also speeding cameras. So 5 over could be a ticket.

You are guarenteed service for atleast 4 years for the $130 prepaid card. 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013. I thought it was worth the savings.

WOW I really need to learn how to count, that or sober up when I am on here... Ya I agree you will likely save with this "bulk" membership and with that forth year (I am so stupid), it sounds even better. I am just grumbling about what will happen in '14 and their term "Lifetime". Actually I am thinking of getting one of those from BB now even though I probably wont have the Z110 till later this year.

Service is not guaranteed after January 1, 2014.

Not to be a cynic but I am assuming that in 2014 the service will change or something so we will need to renew or upgrade memberships. But at that point the services we are buying today will probably be lame in comparison to what will be current so we will probably want to upgrade. But if I am correct, $130 is a for three years is still a better deal then $150 (also assuming the yearly price stays at $50). So now I am just arguing with my self.

It will, I have a D3 connected w/ a Japan MD changer and XDV-P6 connected to the EXT1 and EXT2.

Isn't the D3 listed as compatible with the XDV-P6. So how does this tell us that the Z110 work with it?

Wow so it shows the random order that windows writes file. Well it is cool you got this fix.

They don't ship into Canada tho. As usual - huge bummer!!

Humm I am in the US. I can act as a middle man if you would like ... for a small fee or favor that is .

...these two frighteningly expensive flagship models ... are still so completely flawed.

Come on now, if you are going to make a comment like that could you tell us what you think is so flawed?

... Please tell me where I might find a details Chevy wiring diagram? ...

On a side note I would suggest getting the factory service manual for your vehicle. Just make sure it has the chapters or supplements for the electrical diagrams. You usually can get pdf versions on CD on ebay for around $10 or check the Chevy forums.

I hate to say this, but you'd be absolutely AMAZED at the type of retards we get in here sometimes. I'm sure he didn't mean anything by it.

That and everyone from time to time does really air head things.

Come on now it not like this is uncommon for high ticket items, car dealers for example. The managers drive the latest model (at very little cost to them) then sell them the car at discount a months later. Even on the other spectrum like the food industry, I know people who can have 1 free meal a day from the place they work at. Also think about it, this is probably the best advertising electronics companies could get. Would you buy a car if you only got to look at a model, well how do you test drive a navi system? You let an installer show you his ride. I would bet that helps move units more then anything.

I would guess 400 is probably around cost or below for the parts alone but for new technology ~25% is normal. When you buy technology you are paying for R/D, technical staff salaries, retooling, documentation, etc. As time goes on this things get paid for and costs lower but so does demand. And don't forget overhead; things like storage, paying employees, shipping and keeping the lights on.

... now i have no idea what an ohm is but ...

I am not sure if this will help with your current project but is a pretty good explanation of impedance.

Ya thanks for the videos!

I use the 160 gig for movies and it works perfect without any problems. I have also used the 16 and the 32 gig Sony flash and it also works.

Oh ya. Did you try watching a movie from the flash? How did it work out? How full was the flash? I am assuming you are talking about a card not a USB "jump" drive.

My bad, read it to quick and thought you were upgrading to a F90.

Wow that is kinda lame... but it sounds like people are happy with the iPod video playback and if that is true would that make it a SW issue because the iPod and usb use the same port? Or am i missing something here.

Looks like it dropped to $1,153.89

And I am not sure where you see the Z2 ?!?

So it sounds like the XDV-P6 will not work with the Z110 as well.