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VIDEO REVIEW OF AVIC-F90BT

By JasonH · Jun 01, 2008in Pre-Release Archive💬 127 posts👁️ 85,966 views
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Posted Jun 03, 2008 · 20:06 UTC#51

yeah what's the point of not carrying it through to all aspects of being hands free!

Posted Jun 03, 2008 · 20:31 UTC#52

I agree, technically there's no reason they couldn't do it, if anything it would be easier because the database of words it has to match two isn't changing constantly (like on an iPod or mobile phone).

 

The Z Series has voice command for destination entry (although it doesn't really work very well).

 

Maybe they are saving it for that successor to the Z-series that's supposed to have the higher res 7" screen and the OS from the F-series.

Posted Jun 03, 2008 · 21:50 UTC#53

It's actually really simple. I can't believe you guys couldn't figure it out. For one, you can't select/search POI's, input destinations, etc. while the car is moving for safety reasons.(unless you bypass it)Thus, the reason why you don't need a handfree option for navigation. So it makes a lot of sense that Pioneer wouldn't waste their time on developing that feature.

Posted Jun 03, 2008 · 21:51 UTC#54
Yes, it does voice recognition for phones

There is no hard drive. The USB and SD hookups are for music/video

 

anyone know if the usb and sd media are controllable via voice command?

Posted Jun 03, 2008 · 22:27 UTC#55

No, just ipod and phone

 

anyone know if the usb and sd media are controllable via voice command?

Posted Jun 03, 2008 · 22:27 UTC#56

Hey Jason--Is there a mute button? Or some way to quickly mute music?

Posted Jun 04, 2008 · 02:39 UTC#57

I use the Pioneer wireless steering wheel remote for my D3 for volume/track/source/mute features. Does this remote (or any remote for that matter) work on the 90/900BT?

Posted Jun 04, 2008 · 03:05 UTC#58
Hey Jason--Is there a mute button? Or some way to quickly mute music?
Nope, sorry. It does have a mute wire you could wire up though.
Posted Jun 04, 2008 · 03:27 UTC#59

Does the bluetooth settings allow you to mute the unit when you have an incoming call?

Posted Jun 04, 2008 · 03:42 UTC#60
Does the bluetooth settings allow you to mute the unit when you have an incoming call?
It does it automatically.
Posted Jun 04, 2008 · 03:49 UTC#61

Wow. Engineer who forgot that should be fired

 

Hey Jason--Is there a mute button? Or some way to quickly mute music?
Nope, sorry. It does have a mute wire you could wire up though.
Posted Jun 04, 2008 · 07:49 UTC#62

First off I just want to say thanks for reviewing this. I have a few questions regarding this unit, hopefully not too overwhelming. I currently own a D3, it seems that this unit addressed all the issues the D3 had and more. Questions as follows:

 

1 - Does pressing up/down on the joystick in AM/FM radio mode switch between station presets? It was annoying not having up/down hard-buttons on the D3.

 

2 - I know the center button is for voice command, does this mean you cannot quickly switch between sources by pressing the center button anymore? I'm guessing you could just switch source by speaking

 

3 - Can you hook up an external HDD (non-flash memory) via USB and play music/videos? Wondering if it can read NTFS formatted drives. I know this might take you a while to test as you might not have an adapter for the external HDD. I basically just want to be able to hook up a huge 500GB external HDD and play videos off of that.

 

4 - Does a Keypad stay in place during a phone call so you can press buttons while listening to your voice mail? With the D3, after the call has been connected, the keypad dissapears

 

5 - What voice commands are available during a call? If you pressed the center joystick, or does it hang up or do something else?

 

I think that's all I have for now. Thanks for your time.

Posted Jun 04, 2008 · 17:02 UTC#63
3 - Can you hook up an external HDD (non-flash memory) via USB and play music/videos? Wondering if it can read NTFS formatted drives. I know this might take you a while to test as you might not have an adapter for the external HDD. I basically just want to be able to hook up a huge 500GB external HDD and play videos off of that.

 

If I remember correctly, I think I read it is only compatible with FAT32.

However, there are lots of free utilities out there that will allow you to format any drive size in a FAT32 format.

 

I have done this with my external drive so that my xbox can read it.

 

Here is a link to the free utility that I use. Yes, it is safe. Yes it works. Just follow the directions exactly and you will be set.

 

http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm

 

p.s. Keep in mind your HDD would need to be 2.5" or smaller so that the head unit can power it. If it's any bigger you will need an external power source.

Posted Jun 04, 2008 · 17:07 UTC#64
For one, you can't select/search POI's, input destinations, etc. while the car is moving for safety reasons.(unless you bypass it)...

This is the exact reason why you DO need voice control. As on the Z Series, voice control would give you a means to enter a destination without taking your eyes off the road.

Posted Jun 04, 2008 · 22:01 UTC#65

JasonH I need to ask you... What I wanna really know is does ALL of the POI have their own logo's or is it like the D3 where only a few have their logo's showin and the rest just all use a "dummy" logo???

 

 

I also wonder if the D3 upgrade will get some of these features... Prolly not but it dont hurt to wish on things

Posted Jun 05, 2008 · 00:09 UTC#66

So I called up Edge Audio here in the Phoenix area, and the manager there tells me his team is basically part of Pioneer Premier. They do all the new product testing and also travel around doing training on their new units. He says his shop is not even going to sell the F-series. He was suggesting I go for the AVIC-Z3 or the Kenwood DNX-8120. He said the voice command doesn't work nearly as well as they say (something about asking for Metallica and getting AC/DC). Blah blah... new technology, will take months to get stable, blah blah... only him and like 9 other people in the country have had their hands on it... blah blah just an inferior deck all around.

 

It sounds like a bunch of crap to try and unload some of their older decks on me to make room for the new ones. My question to Jason is, I have actual evidence of you having used the F90BT, can you honestly say its a better experience than the Z series or other nav decks you've used? The SD card slot and MSN Direct are big selling points for me (especially since I want Sirius and everyone seems to use XM for NavTraffic). I also like the front Aux input and the iPod control looks really sweet. Do you guys think this guy is just blowing smoke? Maybe he tried an early unit that didn't do as well?

Posted Jun 05, 2008 · 03:21 UTC#67

So I was reading the manual for the 900BT and it says it DOES NOT support SDHC. This is a big downer cuz it means it will only accept SD cards up to 2gb only. I would also have to assume that the premier 90bt does not support SDHC either.

Posted Jun 05, 2008 · 03:46 UTC#68

Lots more margin in those two models. And he probably has them sittin on the shelf so he is probably just trying to get paid

 

So I called up Edge Audio here in the Phoenix area, and the manager there tells me his team is basically part of Pioneer Premier. They do all the new product testing and also travel around doing training on their new units. He says his shop is not even going to sell the F-series. He was suggesting I go for the AVIC-Z3 or the Kenwood DNX-8120. He said the voice command doesn't work nearly as well as they say (something about asking for Metallica and getting AC/DC). Blah blah... new technology, will take months to get stable, blah blah... only him and like 9 other people in the country have had their hands on it... blah blah just an inferior deck all around.

 

It sounds like a bunch of crap to try and unload some of their older decks on me to make room for the new ones. My question to Jason is, I have actual evidence of you having used the F90BT, can you honestly say its a better experience than the Z series or other nav decks you've used? The SD card slot and MSN Direct are big selling points for me (especially since I want Sirius and everyone seems to use XM for NavTraffic). I also like the front Aux input and the iPod control looks really sweet. Do you guys think this guy is just blowing smoke? Maybe he tried an early unit that didn't do as well?

Posted Jun 05, 2008 · 06:29 UTC#69
So I was reading the manual for the 900BT and it says it DOES NOT support SDHC. This is a big downer cuz it means it will only accept SD cards up to 2gb only. I would also have to assume that the premier 90bt does not support SDHC either.

 

I,ve seen as high as 4 gig.

Posted Jun 05, 2008 · 21:45 UTC#70

Do you think this will be a better unit that the Kenwood 8120? Trying to decide which one to go with. Thanks!

Posted Jun 06, 2008 · 11:43 UTC#71
Hey Jason--Is there a mute button? Or some way to quickly mute music?
Nope, sorry. It does have a mute wire you could wire up though.

 

Hi...

 

If I'm not mistaken...Did i read this part right about MUTE function? on Page 14 of US F900BT Manual.

 

"Keep pressing the center of MULTI-CONTROL; Mutes the AV (Audio and Video) source. To cancel the muting, press and hold it again."

Posted Jun 06, 2008 · 13:58 UTC#72

Thats how it works on the D3 so it makes since to me.

Posted Jun 06, 2008 · 18:26 UTC#73
3 - Can you hook up an external HDD (non-flash memory) via USB and play music/videos? Wondering if it can read NTFS formatted drives. I know this might take you a while to test as you might not have an adapter for the external HDD. I basically just want to be able to hook up a huge 500GB external HDD and play videos off of that.

 

If I remember correctly, I think I read it is only compatible with FAT32.

However, there are lots of free utilities out there that will allow you to format any drive size in a FAT32 format.

 

I have done this with my external drive so that my xbox can read it.

 

Here is a link to the free utility that I use. Yes, it is safe. Yes it works. Just follow the directions exactly and you will be set.

 

http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm

 

p.s. Keep in mind your HDD would need to be 2.5" or smaller so that the head unit can power it. If it's any bigger you will need an external power source.

 

 

AVIC-F SERIES MANUAL SAYS USB MAX. CAPACITY IS '2GB'.....MAN...THAT'S SOOO LOW...

 

BUT, HOWEVER, THE USB ADAPTOR THAT PIONEER PROVIDES FOR OLDER SERIES (cd-ub100)

( http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... B100?tab=D ) SUPPORTS '250GB'......

 

ANY WORDS ON THIS GUYS???????

 

I ALREADY HAVE A 16GB USB DRIVE.....THIS IS A BUMMER....

Posted Jun 06, 2008 · 18:51 UTC#74

Im going to assume that is either a typo or it's referring to jump drives only, not HDD drives. If not, that is very slim support for a standard like USB.

Posted Jun 06, 2008 · 19:42 UTC#75

I thought that is how you get the voice recognition to come up. Maybe you press it for voice, and hold it for mute. Sweet!

 

Hey Jason--Is there a mute button? Or some way to quickly mute music?
Nope, sorry. It does have a mute wire you could wire up though.

 

Hi...

 

If I'm not mistaken...Did i read this part right about MUTE function? on Page 14 of US F900BT Manual.

 

"Keep pressing the center of MULTI-CONTROL; Mutes the AV (Audio and Video) source. To cancel the muting, press and hold it again."

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