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Wow! I guess I must have the only PERFECT F90BT

By ReconTrojan · Jun 15, 2008in Pre-Release Archive💬 66 posts👁️ 26,554 views
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Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 04:54 UTC#1

I admit since I had my AVIC two weeks ago and did not get installed today and reading this forum I was nervous and my expectations were for this disaster that most of you said was coming.

 

Nope.

 

Boot speed with iPod was 1 min 12 seconds from Splash to full control. Music started at 23 seconds.

 

Bluetooth synched to my iPhone perfectly and I made 23 calls with ZERO problems.

 

I drove with the Nav in 2D & 3D and constantly was moving between sources etc...no lockups.

 

HD Radio, Sirus and SD card all worked with zero problems.

 

I have the Alpine 505 and DVD Nav in another car and must say the graphics, the color and clarity blow the ALPINE away. I have no idea what you guys are posting but my installer is a Alpine/Kenweed dealer...one of the largest in OC and he was very impressed.

 

Full-Disclosure I have not used the voice controlled items at any length yet, just not a priority for me but will test more tomorrow.

 

Thanks for those who posted the by-pass as that too worked perfectly.

 

 

I am very pleased with this head unit...it replaced a factory nav system BTW.

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 05:11 UTC#2

Its nice to finally hear a positive report. I look forward to hearing an update after a few days of use to see if it is still problem free.

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 05:19 UTC#3

I'm with you clock109. It is nice to hear some positive reports for a change. Keep it up !

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 05:27 UTC#4

You're from Orange County, CA? Where did you get it installed?

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 05:48 UTC#5

Im waiting for the others who have "perfect" avics to chime in.

 

Then maybe I will pull the trigger.

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 12:36 UTC#6
Bluetooth synched to my iPhone perfectly and I made 23 calls with ZERO problems.

 

Good to hear! (no pun intended) :wink:

Where did you mount your mic?

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 14:35 UTC#7
Bluetooth synched to my iPhone perfectly and I made 23 calls with ZERO problems.

 

Good to hear! (no pun intended) :wink:

Where did you mount your mic?

 

F series has a built-in mic, no?

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 15:26 UTC#8

what about screen brightness and text to speech?

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 15:30 UTC#9
Bluetooth synched to my iPhone perfectly and I made 23 calls with ZERO problems.

 

Good to hear! (no pun intended) :wink:

Where did you mount your mic?

 

F series has a built-in mic, no?

 

No. External. Looks like the on that came with the BTB-200, and it plugs directly in the back of the F series

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 15:34 UTC#10
Bluetooth synched to my iPhone perfectly and I made 23 calls with ZERO problems.

 

Good to hear! (no pun intended) :wink:

Where did you mount your mic?

 

F series has a built-in mic, no?

 

No. External. Looks like the on that came with the BTB-200, and it plugs directly in the back of the F series

 

o damn i heard it came wit built-in mics...but they come with the F right?

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 17:09 UTC#11

Yeah, Can you recommend us where you got it installed in OC? I live in Anaheim.

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 17:21 UTC#12
Yeah, Can you recommend us where you got it installed in OC? I live in Anaheim.

 

I sure can, Beach AutoSound in HB, ask for Tom and he will take care of you.

 

G/L

 

BTW Day Two and no problems so far. Gotta tell you guys that these posts had me really worried and now I have no idea what to make of them.

 

I got a very early production model considering I called Pioneer and they posted the PDF of the owners manual because of me...it was not up yet and they did it while I was on-hold...so not as if I got a later production date.

Boot times could be faster but no-where near as delayed as many of you are complaining about. In fact I put in a SD card and the music started playing in 18 seconds! and full boot in 56 seconds...yeah I timed it.

 

ABout 1 hour of driving this morning checking on the surf and zero lock-ups or issues.

 

Go figure.

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 19:02 UTC#13

Anyway to check what build date or firmware revision you have?

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 19:08 UTC#14

Also, do you have a reverse camera? If so, does it come on while your unit is in boot up. Everyone else that has the cam has reported that while it is in boot up the cam will not show.

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 19:19 UTC#15
Yeah, Can you recommend us where you got it installed in OC? I live in Anaheim.

 

I sure can, Beach AutoSound in HB, ask for Tom and he will take care of you.

 

G/L

 

BTW Day Two and no problems so far. Gotta tell you guys that these posts had me really worried and now I have no idea what to make of them.

 

I got a very early production model considering I called Pioneer and they posted the PDF of the owners manual because of me...it was not up yet and they did it while I was on-hold...so not as if I got a later production date.

Boot times could be faster but no-where near as delayed as many of you are complaining about. In fact I put in a SD card and the music started playing in 18 seconds! and full boot in 56 seconds...yeah I timed it.

 

ABout 1 hour of driving this morning checking on the surf and zero lock-ups or issues.

 

Go figure.

 

Holy crap! That place is less than a mile from my house! I was considering them for my install but I didn't notice any Pioneer on their website.

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 21:01 UTC#16

THanx. One more question:

 

Did you buy the unit from them or get them install for u? How much for everything w/ F90BT ? Thanx a lot.

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 21:44 UTC#17
THanx. One more question:

 

Did you buy the unit from them or get them install for u? How much for everything w/ F90BT ? Thanx a lot.

 

No they are not a Pioneer dealer but my prefered installer. I just had them put a 7k system with the 505 in my 3rd car and felt comfortable with them to handle this install.

 

They sold and installed the entire system but I bought amp/speakers/sub from them.

 

They do excellent work and I am very picky. The system they put in my 2008 M5 is incredible ( from HU back) I have a R8 coming early next year and I on purpose did not buy the B&O option as it was not worth the money so they could do that car as well.

 

Good Luck.

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 22:00 UTC#18

i don't believe they are having all the problems people are talking about. It wouldn't surprise me if all the crap you read on this forum about the new f series is some kenwood dealer or someone else with an agenda talking shit to hurt sales or create a negative buzz. I bet they will work just fine. If they don't you have a warranty. Until I see someone with pictures of one installed and can actually prove that they freeze or whatever I'm not listening. Why would pioneer discontinue a very successful product like the d3 only to release something that didn't work? They wouldn't. The f is going to be the shit considering its an all in one setup for less than 1500 bucks. I'm sick of all the bitching. Glad to hear someone with something positive to say.

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 23:16 UTC#19
It wouldn't surprise me if all the crap you read on this forum about the new f series is some kenwood dealer or someone else with an agenda talking shit to hurt sales or create a negative buzz.

Are you seriously thinking that's what's going on here or was that a joke?

Posted Jun 15, 2008 · 23:39 UTC#20
i don't believe they are having all the problems people are talking about. It wouldn't surprise me if all the crap you read on this forum about the new f series is some kenwood dealer or someone else with an agenda talking shit to hurt sales or create a negative buzz. I bet they will work just fine. If they don't you have a warranty. Until I see someone with pictures of one installed and can actually prove that they freeze or whatever I'm not listening. Why would pioneer discontinue a very successful product like the d3 only to release something that didn't work? They wouldn't. The f is going to be the shit considering its an all in one setup for less than 1500 bucks. I'm sick of all the bitching. Glad to hear someone with something positive to say.

 

ya know if everyone thats complaining about the f series wasnt also trying to find solutions then you might have a point. and the warranty is if the deck gets really messed up...not to fix the lil bugs that werent filtered out. also the d3 had problems too when it first came out.

 

and how is an all in one setup for under $1500 'shit'? how much was onstar when it came out? how much is a navigation option in a car? and an upgraded sound system? wayyy over $1500. plus you get alot more.

Posted Jun 16, 2008 · 01:00 UTC#21
i don't believe they are having all the problems people are talking about. It wouldn't surprise me if all the crap you read on this forum about the new f series is some kenwood dealer or someone else with an agenda talking shit to hurt sales or create a negative buzz. I bet they will work just fine. If they don't you have a warranty. Until I see someone with pictures of one installed and can actually prove that they freeze or whatever I'm not listening. Why would pioneer discontinue a very successful product like the d3 only to release something that didn't work? They wouldn't. The f is going to be the shit considering its an all in one setup for less than 1500 bucks. I'm sick of all the bitching. Glad to hear someone with something positive to say.

 

I posted this pic on another thread from my 700BT installed in my 07 Jetta. Every single time on both my 700BT and the 90BT when you go to look up POI with the "Search" button in the bottom left corner. It freezes and/or restarts every time.

 

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Posted Jun 16, 2008 · 01:40 UTC#22

WTF... are these units windows based or something?

Posted Jun 16, 2008 · 02:49 UTC#23

Yep, Windows CE IIRC.

Posted Jun 16, 2008 · 02:50 UTC#24
THanx. One more question:

 

Did you buy the unit from them or get them install for u? How much for everything w/ F90BT ? Thanx a lot.

 

No they are not a Pioneer dealer but my prefered installer. I just had them put a 7k system with the 505 in my 3rd car and felt comfortable with them to handle this install.

 

They sold and installed the entire system but I bought amp/speakers/sub from them.

 

They do excellent work and I am very picky. The system they put in my 2008 M5 is incredible ( from HU back) I have a R8 coming early next year and I on purpose did not buy the B&O option as it was not worth the money so they could do that car as well.

 

Good Luck.

 

Hey how's the 505 compared to the F90BT? I'm assuming you also have the Blackbird nav. Any comments will be appreciated.

Posted Jun 16, 2008 · 04:31 UTC#25
THanx. One more question:

 

Did you buy the unit from them or get them install for u? How much for everything w/ F90BT ? Thanx a lot.

 

No they are not a Pioneer dealer but my prefered installer. I just had them put a 7k system with the 505 in my 3rd car and felt comfortable with them to handle this install.

 

They sold and installed the entire system but I bought amp/speakers/sub from them.

 

They do excellent work and I am very picky. The system they put in my 2008 M5 is incredible ( from HU back) I have a R8 coming early next year and I on purpose did not buy the B&O option as it was not worth the money so they could do that car as well.

 

Good Luck.

 

Hey how's the 505 compared to the F90BT? I'm assuming you also have the Blackbird nav. Any comments will be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

Never assume.

 

I have the Alpine DVD NAV.

 

The 505 is a great unit but the Pioneer looks like OSX and the Alpine like Windows 3.11

 

The Alpine is bigger and more robust but the Sirus/Traffic module has been rebuilt by Alpine/Sirus 3 times in 2 months so everyone one the bleeding edge has issues....Pioneer is not on an island.

 

If the Pioneer was a 7 inch screen with same rez. the Pioneer would be a better choice and far cheaper.

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