My bluetooth is now on the fritz... it connects/disconnects/connects/disconnects over and over. Its now useless. It worked before!

 

Today when changing bands in XM the thing up and rebooted on me (not a battery issue, my Rogue has 3500 miles on it!).

 

I was considering waiting to install the next update, but my patience has worn.

 

I am going to pull it out this weekend and ebay it. Any recommendations for what i should ask? I was thinking 850 bucks with the 16GB SD Card included. I have most if not all the manuals.

 

Also, if anyone else is planning on, or knows how, to file or enter a class action suit, sign me the hell up!

 

I'm sorry...but that's a defective unit and you damn well know it. So you're saying that you would sell it like that, and when the buyer complained, you would not refund the money, you would tell him that's normal and to live with it??? Right. Do you really believe that??? If that's the way every one worked...it's not...and Pioneer advertised it that way...they don't... then I would agree it's not defective.

Yes it is normal for this unit. My unit is NOT defective, or else I would have Pioneer repair/replace it! Are you dense?

I can tell you are just trying to get my goat so I will leave it be here.

The Bluetooth issue is a widespread problem among members here, that's not a problem with his one single unit.

 

The rebooting situation is not uncommon. The thing is a computer, if it processes too much at once it will shut down and restart. it's happened to me many times when i try to to input a destination while its still starting up. Doesn't mean my unit's defective.

 

Of course Pioneer didn't advertise it that way! How can they sell a $1,000 unit if everyone knows the problems? That's why there was talk of a lawsuit, false advertising is looked down upon these days.

 

Do you even own an F Series? Because if not, you had NO IDEA what you're talking about from the start.

 

How is it screwing someone else? Just because he's unhappy with the unit doesn't mean the buyer will be unhappy too. You're speaking for 'some innocent unaware consumer' when you don't even know the person or what he or she looks for in a unit. Tacoma doesn't like it, where I love it. Your case has no solid ground so just stop bashing and let it go.

 

Tacoma, jus ignore 'im, you're doing nothing wrong if you sell it.

Thanks for helping. Hes just trying to get a rise out of me (it worked a bit hehe).

The Bluetooth issue is a widespread problem among members here, that's not a problem with his one single unit.

 

The rebooting situation is not uncommon. The thing is a computer, if it processes too much at once it will shut down and restart. it's happened to me many times when i try to to input a destination while its still starting up. Doesn't mean my unit's defective.

 

Of course Pioneer didn't advertise it that way! How can they sell a $1,000 unit if everyone knows the problems? That's why there was talk of a lawsuit, false advertising is looked down upon these days.

 

Do you even own an F Series? Because if not, you had NO IDEA what you're talking about from the start.

 

How is it screwing someone else? Just because he's unhappy with the unit doesn't mean the buyer will be unhappy too. You're speaking for 'some innocent unaware consumer' when you don't even know the person or what he or she looks for in a unit. Tacoma doesn't like it, where I love it. Your case has no solid ground so just stop bashing and let it go.

 

Tacoma, jus ignore 'im, you're doing nothing wrong if you sell it.

You have got to be kidding me. You know what? I'm done with you. If you are that dense, if you really think what he was going to do was right, then you are what's wrong with the things in this world right now. Instant Gratification Generation. Unbelievable. Please read what you wrote. You admit the unit is a problem, but it's not defective??? My God.

I can't deal with you. You just don't get it and you continue to talk out of your ass. "..then you are what's wrong with the things in this world right now.", screw you. If you're gonna resort to insulting somebody as a person rather than continuing to defend your case, then you're not worth talking to. I'm not even gonna bother to explain the difference between a problem and a defect, I think I'll just allow you to look more like an ass with every post you write.

IT'S NOT A DEFECTIVE UNIT IF IT HAS THE SAME EXACT PROBLEMS AS EVERY OTHER UNIT ON THE MARKET, EVEN A NEW UNIT YOU JUST BOUGHT FROM A RETAILER. THEREFOR THERE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE WITH THE UNIT HE IS SELLING OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT IS USED. WHAT IS SO FUCKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?

maybe all that heat in Arizona has adverse effects on people's higher brain functions...

IT'S NOT A DEFECTIVE UNIT IF IT HAS THE SAME EXACT PROBLEMS AS EVERY OTHER UNIT ON THE MARKET, EVEN A NEW UNIT YOU JUST BOUGHT FROM A RETAILER. THEREFOR THERE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE WITH THE UNIT HE IS SELLING OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT IS USED. WHAT IS SO FUCKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?

 

maybe all that heat in Arizona has adverse effects on people's higher brain functions...

Hhaha thanks for that laugh this morning.

Hahahaha, this is a riot. Tacoma, it sounds like since your unit is "defective" you need to just hold on to it for the the rest of your life, because you would be an evil person to sell it to someone else for a discounted price when they can go spend a little more on new defective unit

So basically what Aviator is saying is, you should put it on ebay and say " These unit have alot of issues, please go research all of the known issues on AVIC411 before bidding" HA! Show me one store that does that. Does Best Buy have a sign out saying that the unit has known issues, so you might want to reconsider? No. Does Pioneer's own website saying anything about them being aware of any issues? No, even though we know they are well aware. If Tacoma wants to sell his unit, and the buyer doesn't do the proper research beforehand, that's their own damn fault.

This thread is no longer productive and has no meaningful solution nor purpose. Agree to disagree, and let it go.

Once again, I wish JasonH would heed my requests to anoint an F-Series moderator...

SAME EXACT PROBLEMS AS EVERY OTHER UNIT ON THE MARKET.

Did you read what you wrote???? What a fucking idiot. IT HAS PROBLEMS! IT'S DEFECTIVE!!! Just because all others have them doesn't make it right for God's sake. By your reasoning, if most the Chevy Malibus made just up and died going down the road, it's ok because they all do it.

But hey...if you can sleep at night...more power to you. But if you sell it to someone who gives a shit, grab your ass because you will find out in a heartbeat that what you committed was fraud if you advertised it as a good unit. But hey...don't take my word for it...go for it! Maybe I'll be the one who buys it and we'll really get to answer this question.

By your reasoning, if most the Chevy Malibus made just up and died going down the road, it's ok because they all do it.

The unit doesn't crash or die, so this is a bad example.

Maybe I'll be the one who buys it and we'll really get to answer this question.

And why would you buy a unit that you've been claiming is 'defective'? Now you're making less sense than you already were..

SAME EXACT PROBLEMS AS EVERY OTHER UNIT ON THE MARKET.

 

Did you read what you wrote???? What a fucking idiot. IT HAS PROBLEMS! IT'S DEFECTIVE!!! Just because all others have them doesn't make it right for God's sake. By your reasoning, if most the Chevy Malibus made just up and died going down the road, it's ok because they all do it.

 

But hey...if you can sleep at night...more power to you. But if you sell it to someone who gives a shit, grab your ass because you will find out in a heartbeat that what you committed was fraud if you advertised it as a good unit. But hey...don't take my word for it...go for it! Maybe I'll be the one who buys it and we'll really get to answer this question.

This is your dumbest post yet - and that's saying something. I agree we need a moderator here.

I agree we need a moderator here.

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I'm exchanging emails with Jason, so hopefully someone will be put in charge soon.

I'm exchanging emails with Jason, so hopefully someone will be put in charge soon.

Good. It's one thing if the conversation gets a little bit off topic from the thread, as long as the main focus is still the original topic, but this is ridiculous. No need to insult other members simply because you don't agree with them.

what you committed was fraud if you advertised it as a good unit.

1 - I buy a product

2 - I don't like said product because it doesn't perform as I was told that it would.

3 - I sell said product under the terms that it is USED, BUT LOOKS AND WORKS LIKE NEW

Now since this unit performs in the same exact manner as a brand new one does and does not contain any defects above and beyond those that you would find in a new unit, it is in no way, shape, or form fraudulent.

Maybe I'll be the one who buys it and we'll really get to answer this question.

Go ahead. Then when you go to court you'll be penalized with intentionally committing an act with intention to sue, which last time I checked, is fraud.

Or, the judge will dismiss the case since you already knew the unit was 'defective' when you bought it so it's your own fault. No matter which way you look at this pointless arguement, you are wrong. Now put this thread to rest and leave it alone.. Oh and try not to insult other members, it may come back to bite you in the future

Let's let this one die guys, it's obvious there are differing viewpoints, and no amount of discussion or arguing is going to bring everyone onto the same page.

no amount of discussion or arguing is going to bring everyone onto the same page.

Actually... we're all on page 3 right now.

Actually... we're all on page 3 right now.

Smartass!

sure, another way to generate posts...