Is anyone using OSX to mod their F-series? If so, how are you doing it? Can the F-series read an SD card from OSX? Any help would be great!

<-----Mac only guy here.

Quite a few people doing mods use Macs (e.g. Stephanie).

As long as the card is formatted as FAT it should work. The only problem seems to be that when people zip up their iGO files is that they zip in all the extraneous crap that OSX creates for files on FAT disks (invisible folders with . as the first character of the name). Does not affect anything but makes files larger than need be...

Cool..That's what I was hoping... I'll have to do some reading on how all the file hacks work now..

Seriously. there is osx running on the avic?

I don't quite believe that.

I'm also using a Mac and it works great for modding the Avic. Even bmp's saved by photoshop work great.

There is only a problem when you load music on SD or USB, the music player on the Avic does not ignore those hidden Mac files. So when you are browsing your music the Avic will show those .DS_Store and .Trash_.. directories..

I use linux on my laptop to delete those hidden directories after putting music on my SD card..

And no, the Avic does not run osx, it runs windows CE..

Seriously. there is osx running on the avic?

 

I don't quite believe that.

Come on now... for someone who has made so many posts arguing the boot speed of Windows CE... really. No, LOL, OSX is not on the Avic.

I wonder what it would take to get OSX on the AVIC?

So all I have to do is make sure the SD card is formatted in a FAT32 for the AVIC to read it?

I just want to do some little mods like icons/backgrounds and whatnot..

I don't really think that the hardware in the F series is capable of running a full operating system, like OSX or Windows XP. Those operating systems use much more system resources than the Windows CE that is on it does. You'd probably be looking at like 3 or 5 minute boot times and really slow response, assuming it would even work in the first place.

What about OS X from the iPhone?

Why would you want an OS that can't multitask properly?

There's always a MAC nuthugger wherever I go. I don't recall Apple ever making an OS that is stripped like Win CE.

If you like the IPhone and think it's so awesome, you should really check out the Nokia E71, N95 8GB or the N85. Also, the Blackberry Storm will make the iphone look like the piece of junk it is once it's released. Apples are fine computers, don't get me wrong, just watch the South Park episode where Kyle's parents move to San Francisco for a reference to my thoughts on people that use MAC's haha

Sorry to rant. I will try out this mod and post my results ASAP.

I think the F-series units would run great with Cocoa touch (iPhone OS). Cocoa is extremely easy to program, Apple gives you all the necessary tools to code/debug/test it, and it would probably use half the system resources as Windows CE.

I would be interested to see if anybody could get a running copy onto the units.

Once you get an iPhone OS that could multitask properly it might be moderately interesting, but really CE is significantly better as an embedded OS...

iPhone OS is ARM based, so technically it's possible, but I don't think anybody's going to tackle that any time soon.

And it does multitasking just fine, which is why you can listen to music and run applications. Applications developed for the App Store on the other hand are not given access to multitasking for some very important reasons. For people that really crave multitasking there's an app for jailbroken phones which enables it for all apps. Apple's smart sandboxing every application as much as possible. For every good developer there's 20 really half ass ones.

Saying Windows CE is much better than the iPhone OS is sort of true, in as much as more things can run it, but if you look at the general sluggishness of the AVIC, I have to think that anything would be better than CE at this point. A lightweight linux distro would have been really nice. Check out the HTC Diamond or whatever it is that runs WinMo to see how hard it is to run custom UI's over any windows OS. The hardware on that phone is great, and the touchflo software is really good too, but it's totally hampered by the general lagginess of the OS behind it.

If you like the IPhone and think it's so awesome, you should really check out the Nokia E71, N95 8GB or the N85. Also, the Blackberry Storm will make the iphone look like the piece of junk it is once it's released.

Those phones are good phones because of the iphone, they had to be to compete. They would still be simple cell phones right now if it weren't for the iphone. And non of those phones, even the new blackberry are going to touch the iphone in sales. Apple now has the best selling phone in a little over a year up against phone companies that have been doing this for many more years, there is a reason why, because they make better products, period.

If you like the IPhone and think it's so awesome, you should really check out the Nokia E71, N95 8GB or the N85. Also, the Blackberry Storm will make the iphone look like the piece of junk it is once it's released.

 

Those phones are good phones because of the iphone, they had to be to compete. They would still be simple cell phones right now if it weren't for the iphone. And non of those phones, even the new blackberry are going to touch the iphone in sales. Apple now has the best selling phone in a little over a year up against phone companies that have been doing this for many more years, there is a reason why, because they make better products, period.

I could not have said it better myself!

Apple does very good marketing. As a phone (let alone a smartphone) iPhone does not come anywhere near these Nokias, or any number of other phones. But it is shiny...

Rather like Razr. Sold tons of them for quite some time. Still a POS phone...

Apple does very good marketing. As a phone (let alone a smartphone) iPhone does not come anywhere near these Nokias, or any number of other phones. But it is shiny...

 

Rather like Razr. Sold tons of them for quite some time. Still a POS phone...

LOL Now Boris, how can you compare the iPhone to the Razr? Let's do apples to apples now... no pun intended!

LOL Now Boris, how can you compare the iPhone to the Razr? Let's do apples to apples now... no pun intended!

Why, both don't do much, are thin and shiny, and sell like hotcakes.

LOL Now Boris, how can you compare the iPhone to the Razr? Let's do apples to apples now... no pun intended!

 

Why, both don't do much, are thin and shiny, and sell like hotcakes.

I'd have to agree to disagree... I have owned many many phones from the Razr to HTC Smartphones and I have to say I will never own anything else but an iPhone. I had the 2G and now own the 3G. It does everything I want and need it to do with few exceptions... is it missing flash, yes, is it missing video, yes but does it absolutely rock for everything I actually NEED for it to do? Yes! It's hackable, always growing with multitudes of applications, hands down the best portable media player on the market and I think it just comes down to who you are and what you like. That being said, I fully respect your opinion on it.

Yes, it's very much a personal preference thing. Personally, I will not buy a phone that does not have a real keyboard...

Personally, I will not buy a phone that does not have a real keyboard...

I think its likely you will see that disappear soon though. The reason Apple and now others are going with virtual keyboards is to offer better regional compatibility. Maybe cost as well.

I love my iPhone, I had the original and now the 3G. But the one thing that is lacking on the iPhone is the actual phone portion. My Razr V3XX had 10 times the signal strength and call quality. But I love all the iPhones features.

I think its likely you will see that disappear soon though. The reason Apple and now others are going with virtual keyboards is to offer better regional compatibility. Maybe cost as well.

That would be rather sad, but I don't really see this happening. People who actually use their phones for business (or even serious emailing) will not stand for it.

I have a strange feeling anyone who is a iphone hater either A. Never owned one or used one before, B. Is jealous or C. Can't afford one.

I have owned numerous phones over the years like most people, and the iphone is simply incredible.

You couldn't pry the iphone from my cold dead hands, and anything else i've used, pales in comparison, the ease of use, style, sexiness and usefulness of the device is second to none.

It really is just incredible, i've owned it since July and I still am getting used to how fricken awesome it is.

I paid 50 dollars a month for my other phone and I barely used it, I pay 80 a month for ths one and I use it on a daily basis for everything.

So, I will deffend the iphone to the death, anyone want to test me? haha.