So, I will deffend the iphone to the death, anyone want to test me? haha.

You can keep it

Now, if you try taking my SCH-i760, that could turn ugly. but then I do not consider electronic devices sexy...

So, I will deffend the iphone to the death, anyone want to test me? haha.

 

You can keep it

 

Now, if you try taking my SCH-i760, that could turn ugly. but then I do not consider electronic devices sexy...

I would hate to see what your girl friend looks like, that samsung is fugly. And windows mobile? I think im going to puke haha. I would have a hard time seeing beauty too if I loved a samsung phone that looks like a deformed brick.

Have you ever used a iphone? Say for longer then 5 minutes? Obviously the price tag isn't what causes you concern.

As for the touch keyboard, its much improved after getting used to it, I hear women have a hard time using it thanks to their long fingernails, your not a women are you or have long finger nails like one?

haha, that sounded harsh, no offense their buddy.

Yeah, I used iPhone. For longer than 5 minutes (although it was hard).

Samsung may not be the best looking piece of electronics out there, but it is actually functional. As in "can do anything with one hand" functional, and Windows Mobile, while not perfect, is pretty decent. Certainly more capable than castrated version of OS X on the iPhone. Did you even finally get proper multitasking for that thing?

I suppose if I wanted something that swirls the screen any time you touch it, iPhone would be an OK option. I prefer devices that do exactly what I tell them to do...

Got asked by a friend couple days ago if it is possible to sync contacts back from iPhone to Outlook. We looked everywhere in iTunes, and it looked like you can only do a full sync from PC to iPhone, or do selected contacts to Iphone, but can't sync back... Any idea if this is possible, and if it is why does it take 5 seconds to set up in ActiveSync and does not show up anywhere in iTunes?

iPhones certainly have their uses... Probably for the same people who install neon lights on their cars underbodies, or are trying to load Garmin onto F-Series because you can use a car icon instead of an arrow.

So there!

Yeah, I used iPhone. For longer than 5 minutes (although it was hard).

 

Samsung may not be the best looking piece of electronics out there, but it is actually functional. As in "can do anything with one hand" functional, and Windows Mobile, while not perfect, is pretty decent. Certainly more capable than castrated version of OS X on the iPhone. Did you even finally get proper multitasking for that thing?

 

I suppose if I wanted something that swirls the screen any time you touch it, iPhone would be an OK option. I prefer devices that do exactly what I tell them to do...

 

Got asked by a friend couple days ago if it is possible to sync contacts back from iPhone to Outlook. We looked everywhere in iTunes, and it looked like you can only do a full sync from PC to iPhone, or do selected contacts to Iphone, but can't sync back... Any idea if this is possible, and if it is why does it take 5 seconds to set up in ActiveSync and does not show up anywhere in iTunes?

 

iPhones certainly have their uses... Probably for the same people who install neon lights on their cars underbodies, or are trying to load Garmin onto F-Series because you can use a car icon instead of an arrow.

 

So there!

Uh, so what do you use for a music player? Or do you carry around an ipod nano as well as your brick phone?

I find it great to have a single all in one device. I can surf the net, in all its glory, check email, apps galore, and oh yeah, I can listen to my ipod.

What do you multitask on your device? I mean I don't see your point for multitasking, I can't think of one time I needed to go from one app to another, where they had to be running at the same time. But I can listen to the ipod while checking email or playing a game or using any other app.

My iphone is my fitness tracker for food and workouts, shopping list, takes written, recorded notes. has a full fledged calculator, full blown web browser, movie palyer.

The one thing i wish it did better was sync with google calenders etc. but that is remedied with the google mobile app.

I really truly just think you haven't gotten a real good taste or demo fo the iphone.

I mean I can write a fricken novel about it if you want, does it have issues that need to be worked out still? Sure it does, but you dont' see apple standing still now do you?

Get a good taste of the app store, use easy writer to write an email, I bet once you get used to it, you will join the party.

Uh, so what do you use for a music player? Or do you carry around an ipod nano as well as your brick phone?

On those rare occasions when I do, I use a little Sansa. Not to drag this thread even further into discussion why iPod is not the only music player out there, but it serves my needs, and I actually prefer it in a separate device.

I find it great to have a single all in one device. I can surf the net, in all its glory, check email, apps galore, and oh yeah, I can listen to my ipod.

I prefer devices that perform their functions well, not ones that do everything half-baked.

What do you multitask on your device? I mean I don't see your point for multitasking, I can't think of one time I needed to go from one app to another, where they had to be running at the same time. But I can listen to the ipod while checking email or playing a game or using any other app.

For example, I can run Navizon, raking in points, while talking on the phone, while playing music (well, not when talking), while running iGO, while having email pushed to me (from _any_ mail service, not the ones Apple deemed worthy), while having weather forecast updated in the background etc. etc.... And it does not take long to switch between apps either.

My iphone is my fitness tracker for food and workouts, shopping list, takes written, recorded notes. has a full fledged calculator, full blown web browser, movie palyer.

So does mine...

I mean I can write a fricken novel about it if you want, does it have issues that need to be worked out still? Sure it does, but you dont' see apple standing still now do you?

 

Get a good taste of the app store, use easy writer to write an email, I bet once you get used to it, you will join the party.

Microsoft does not stand still either, not do third-party developers. The thing is that everything that iPhone can do, WinMo (or Symbian for that matter) can do, too (and often could before there was an iPhone), but there are many things we can do that iPhone can't. Including typing that novel on a real keyboard.

BTW, last time I checked, every study had shown that even experienced users type slower on iPhone keyboard that inexperienced ones on a slide-out hard keyboard.

For example, I can run Navizon, raking in points, while talking on the phone, while playing music (well, not when talking), while running iGO, while having email pushed to me (from _any_ mail service, not the ones Apple deemed worthy), while having weather forecast updated in the background etc. etc.... And it does not take long to switch between apps either.

DAMN, if you really use your phone for that much shit at once! you can do all that with an iPhone. Ill be it you will need to hack it (which shouldn't be a problem for you of course) But all of that is possible. It is true that some phones did what the iphone does before the iphone did. But Apple did it in a way that is so easy and more pleasurable to use that people just said WOW. All other phones, even most of the ones that did it before, are now trying to catch up. Just ask Verizon. They lost 48% of their customer base alone to AT&T because of the iPhone.

DAMN, if you really use your phone for that much shit at once! you can do all that with an iPhone. Ill be it you will need to hack it (which shouldn't be a problem for you of course) But all of that is possible. It is true that some phones did what the iphone does before the iphone did. But Apple did it in a way that is so easy and more pleasurable to use that people just said WOW. All other phones, even most of the ones that did it before, are now trying to catch up. Just ask Verizon. They lost 48% of their customer base alone to AT&T because of the iPhone.

Actually, no. iPhone does not multitask, so you can't do that.

I'll grant that Apple makes products that are very easy to use out of the box, for people who can't be bothered to learn to operate them. And they have great marketing, convincing people that their products are so easy... But you know, if market share means quality, then Microsoft is the greatest company in the history of mankind producing products that are beyond perfection

BTW, I very much doubt that Verizon lost anywhere near half of their customer base.

Just ask Verizon. They lost 48% of their customer base alone to AT&T because of the iPhone.

Oh for God's sake. You actually believe that dribble??? If VZW lost half it's customers, it would have been bankrupt. Unbelievable. Whoever told you that crap is an absolute idiot.

But, they did lose SOME customers. However, they got most of them back when they were screwed over so bad over the price of the phone and how it turned out to be so lacking from what was advertised.

I'll grant that Apple makes products that are very easy to use out of the box, for people who can't be bothered to learn to operate them. And they have great marketing, convincing people that their products are so easy... But you know, if market share means quality, then Microsoft is the greatest company in the history of mankind producing products that are beyond perfection

Apple makes OS's and products that don't need to be messed with. As a graphic designer I work on and own apple computers, and I've worked on and own a pc. The pc requires far more maintenance and are slowed down by all the crap that infects it from the internet. They are generally less stable than my mac. I like not having to be running anti-spyware and anti-virus software and not wondering if the zipped font I'm about to open will contain something that will infect and slow my systems. In the long run i end up saving on the cost of my mac by the increased productivity.

Just ask Verizon. They lost 48% of their customer base alone to AT&T because of the iPhone.

 

Oh for God's sake. You actually believe that dribble??? If VZW lost half it's customers, it would have been bankrupt. Unbelievable. Whoever told you that crap is an absolute idiot.

That is what the articles I read stated.

Apple makes OS's and products that don't need to be messed with. As a graphic designer I work on and own apple computers, and I've worked on and own a pc. The pc requires far more maintenance and are slowed down by all the crap that infects it from the internet. They are generally less stable than my mac. I like not having to be running anti-spyware and anti-virus software and not wondering if the zipped font I'm about to open will contain something that will infect and slow my systems. In the long run i end up saving on the cost of my mac by the increased productivity.

For your purposes probably, and while Apple has its 5% market share, you don't have to worry about viruses...

Just ask Verizon. They lost 48% of their customer base alone to AT&T because of the iPhone.

 

Oh for God's sake. You actually believe that dribble??? If VZW lost half it's customers, it would have been bankrupt. Unbelievable. Whoever told you that crap is an absolute idiot.

 

That is what the articles I read stated.

Not sure what article your quoting, but you have to admit, that sounds insane. ATT has 73 million subscribers Verizon wireless has almost 71 million.

I would say at most maybe half a million defected from verizon but a whole lot more from sprint and others.

Apple makes OS's and products that don't need to be messed with. As a graphic designer I work on and own apple computers, and I've worked on and own a pc. The pc requires far more maintenance and are slowed down by all the crap that infects it from the internet. They are generally less stable than my mac. I like not having to be running anti-spyware and anti-virus software and not wondering if the zipped font I'm about to open will contain something that will infect and slow my systems. In the long run i end up saving on the cost of my mac by the increased productivity.

 

For your purposes probably, and while Apple has its 5% market share, you don't have to worry about viruses...

13% now as stated in the last Keynote

13% now as stated in the last Keynote

Reality distortion field

I would say at most maybe half a million defected from verizon but a whole lot more from sprint and others.

It was less than 1%...and I have that direct from the horse's mouth. So you are about dead on with your estimate. That is prior to them returning to VZW

Is anyone using OSX to mod their F-series? If so, how are you doing it? Can the F-series read an SD card from OSX? Any help would be great!

 

<-----Mac only guy here.

Well, to try to pull this thread back on target, I just did some minor hacking with my Mac. The SD card is in FAT format, and with a SD card reader it just shows up on the Mac as a disk image. I was able to copy the phonebook database from my F700BT to the SD card, read it on my Mac, edit the phonebook database to fix the "multiple entries with the same name" issue, using the Firefox SQLite Manager add on, and copy it back to the F700BT without a hitch.

I haven't tried anything involving modifying the data.zip file yet.