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Official 2.0 Firmware Opinion/Results Thread

By cranbers · Oct 30, 2008in General💬 101 posts👁️ 34,982 views
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Posted Oct 31, 2008 · 16:10 UTC#26
Hey djphat2000,

 

What ipod touch firmware are you using??? how's your album art???

 

Album art is crap. Looks pixelated. Which makes no sense since the image is of good quality.

 

I am running the latest update to the ipod touch (first gen). Works perfectly so far. :) THANK GOD!!!! I can run video no problem, and all play smoothly so far. Music videos look good on this screen. Need to see it at night though. 8)

Posted Oct 31, 2008 · 20:01 UTC#27

great improvement. kudos pioneer.

 

one thing i wish they would've added would be speed sensitive volume control... but that might be difficult since each car's audio system and acoustics are different. unlike car manufacturers that can calibrate the system with a known car model.

 

not griping, i think pioneer is finally delivering on their product. still. it'd be nice to have.

Posted Oct 31, 2008 · 23:00 UTC#28
great improvement. kudos pioneer.

 

one thing i wish they would've added would be speed sensitive volume control... but that might be difficult since each car's audio system and acoustics are different. unlike car manufacturers that can calibrate the system with a known car model.

 

not griping, i think pioneer is finally delivering on their product. still. it'd be nice to have.

 

you have to go in the settins and there is a setting for that aswell and you can change the speed that it kicks in at as low as 30-40k/h and 140 i think is max

Posted Nov 01, 2008 · 05:09 UTC#29

I've had mine on old software for about 3 hours :lol: The 2.0 update came out two days before I installed it. Having said that, this thing boots quick. By the time I start the car and put it in reverse the cd is playing. I can change songs or switch to radio within 15 seconds.

 

Navi still take a while to boot, but considering that I had to plug in the tomtom and start it, this is about twice as fast to actually put in the destination and I don't have to fiddle with the wires.

 

Bluetooth works great, the radio downloaded the contacts from my Verizon Razr V3. Voice recognition is rather weak, though much better than the one built into my phone which is totally useless.

 

Overall I'm pretty happy with it. After playing with original firmware unit in local Circuit City which crashed and took over a minute to boot I almost didn't buy it. Then I read about the existing and upcoming updates and now I'm glad I bought it. Pioneer can count me as a satisfied customer.

Posted Nov 01, 2008 · 14:07 UTC#30

For my part:

 

Boot improved like everyone else

Bluetooth with Blackberry Pearl flawless now - didn't work before at all

IPOD doesn't lose connection

 

Problem 1: VR does not work when it did before. Will not recognize a call command, will not read all IPOD commands past initial few words: IE: Play the Artist Chicago becomes playing all artists.

 

Problem 2: Volume button functions are inconsistent: (May be tied to #1 above). Does not mute, does not always bring up the VR menu, erratic when zooming in map, sometimes doesn't, sometimes zooms the wrong way, sometimes zooms too much. Volume works fine, next and previous track works fine. (This was not a problem before 2.0 update

 

Problem 3: Darn gas station icons (MSN) are still there

Posted Nov 01, 2008 · 15:59 UTC#31

After I applied the update I was still having issues with the Ipod and I was still seeing the gas poi icons on the screen. Even though I am pretty sure I followed the instructions step by step I was confused why for some people these issues were resolved and some of my issues stayed.

I then selected "Restore Factory Settings". And that seemed to fix the remaining issues. My Ipod has worked perfectly since and the gas icons have remained off like I wanted.

It's is weird that applying the update reset some of the settings but it wasn't until I did the factory restore that the rest of my issues were resolved.

 

Dave

Posted Nov 01, 2008 · 16:18 UTC#32

Well as everyone is discussing the Update worked! That doesn't get Pioneer off the hook yet.

 

Detail that I notice go away:

- When stopped at an intersection the my arrow no longer slightly starts turning for no reason.

 

Detail That I can't get working:

- I can't seem to get GOOG411's (800) number in my contacts. Every time I try to use the HU Google411 icon it's still calling a non-free number. I've tried almost everything to get this to work. my contacts will not retain the (800) number.

 

Has anyone goten the (800) google number working through contacts, or how is the best way to call that number?

Posted Nov 01, 2008 · 16:40 UTC#33
Well as everyone is discussing the Update worked! That doesn't get Pioneer off the hook yet.

 

Detail that I notice go away:

- When stopped at an intersection the my arrow no longer slightly starts turning for no reason.

 

Detail That I can't get working:

- I can't seem to get GOOG411's (800) number in my contacts. Every time I try to use the HU Google411 icon it's still calling a non-free number. I've tried almost everything to get this to work. my contacts will not retain the (800) number.

 

Has anyone goten the (800) google number working through contacts, or how is the best way to call that number?

 

 

Yes, I mad a contact named 411 with this number: 1-800-466-4411

 

It takes less time to get to in the contacts anyway!

Posted Nov 01, 2008 · 17:21 UTC#34

Thanks.

Posted Nov 02, 2008 · 06:14 UTC#35

Is there a way to undo the update?

 

Before:

 

iPod worked flawlessly.

Bluetooth worked flawlessly.

 

After Update:

 

iPod disconnects and drops every 1 to 2 minutes, making listening to the iPod unbearable.

Bluetooth (blackberry) keeps dropping out.

 

My system worked great before the update, it just had a long boot time, and now the boot time is much shorter, but I got problems.

Posted Nov 02, 2008 · 11:11 UTC#36

Yeah for me the Bluetooth worked better before. Now the people I call is hearing a lot of noise in the background and is having a hard time understanding me. I have a Casio GZone phone. I would like to go to the old version of the bluetooth update.

 

I wish they could make the reverse camera come on faster. There have been many times that I am waiting on the unit to change screens.

Posted Nov 03, 2008 · 02:04 UTC#37

Here Ipod classic still dropping one channel (driver side) between 1 and 3 times in 30m. Every time you turn on the car you do not know if it will play on both channels or not.

 

To select a route you still have to go trough 3 sub menus....

 

Phone system still cannot send tones therefore rendering useless auto dial into conference calls or voice mail systems (unless you call from your handset - illegal now in some west coast states.. :)

 

Initiating a call from the AVIC while listening music will bring you to the map screen, instead of ipod screen for example, and render the AVIC unresponsive for a while

 

I still have to play with VR. Will try next.

 

While things improved there are still some usability issues and hiccups that requires a...2.1 firmware update. Pioneer seems to be listening as this is the 2nd update in 6 months.

-S

Posted Nov 03, 2008 · 08:46 UTC#38

my f90 seems to boot up faster. i only used the old firmware for about 20 mins on the drive from the stereo shop home. overall i am very happy with the product, glad i choose this one over the other ones

Posted Nov 03, 2008 · 17:56 UTC#39

Well, as for me. This update has been great. I have everything working fine now. Only real complaint I have is when recieving calls it goes to that Map screen. Which makes no sense but, I can live with that.

 

Other then that, My contacts copied over after several tries. Calls are still clear and my iPod hasn't had an issue at all. Everything works and plays. Video's, music, ect. Other then losing my EQ settings on the update. I can say this was a good purchase and, I do hope Pioneer fixes any remaining issues soon.

 

Thank you Pioneer!!! :D

Posted Nov 03, 2008 · 23:35 UTC#40

Well it turns out my ipod was just working fine for a few days. Today it went right back to dropping the connection. Oh well. I guess I have to wait for 2.1 or for Apple to release an update for for my ipod classic 160 GB.

 

Dave

Posted Nov 04, 2008 · 02:56 UTC#41

My BB 8830 stopped randomly disconnecting after 2.0...unfortunately it came back today. :cry:

Posted Nov 04, 2008 · 03:12 UTC#42

I have an iPod Video 30GB 5.5G that has dropped the connection twice today. It has been fine since the 2.0 update and now all of a sudden it's started this crap again. That... and the navigation won't stfu even after I put in the fixed version of Samantha, though that's a different story. Right now I'm holding off on putting my Kenwood 8120 up on ebay. I am really missing my Garmin nav.

Posted Nov 04, 2008 · 15:09 UTC#43

overall i am very pleased with the update. mainly i am pleased with how must faster everything seems to be (boot time, bluetooth phone connection, touch screen response...).

 

however, there are a few things that I am still not happy with. some have always been there but some are new.

 

starting with bluetooth:

 

i have a Verizon Razr2 V9M. before the update my phone book tranferred easily on the first try. after I did the BT update it took me about 20 tries before it finally worked. the first 19 tries either gave me a "No Telephone Number" error or would start loading data and then the unit would restart.

 

now that i finally got my phone book to transfer it still doesnt list HOME, MOBILE, WORK next to my conacts. it just says JOHN DOE 3 times if I have 3 different numbers for JOHN DOE. if I say "call JOHN DOE" it will tell me to pick which number to call and it lists all 3 numbers as "GENERAL" on the screen. although, before the update i did have ONE contact with GENERAL, WORK, AND MOBILE listed at this stage but it was just that one contact.

 

futher, my bluetooth control screen that SHOULD pop up when making or receiving calls doesnt always appear. especially when making calls via VR, after connecting to GOOGLE-411 or when dialing a contact directly from my phone

 

 

other things that should have been changed in my opinion are:

 

- the ability to change the track/compass direction on both 2D and 3D modes.

 

- a more handy bluetooth control screen. something more than the HANG UP/Volume Control buttons. for instance, a button that automatically switches back to my handset for private calls would be nice.

 

- the ability to control voicemail menus via the touch screen. (i havent tested this on the new software but im just assuming this wasnt an added feature)

 

- have the voice guidance of the navi give directions a little less frequently. particularly when entering/exiting the highway. it doesnt need to tell me 5 times to prepare to enter the highway while i am already on the entry ramp. perhaps even an adjustable setting for this type of thing. drivers who are not confident with their own sense of direction can have voice guidance set to high and someone who simply needs general directions and doesnt need their hand held can set it to low.

 

- pause CD or ipod when making/receiving a bluetooth call rather than just muting the volume.

 

- eliminate the TIME TO DESTINATION/DISTANCE TO DESTINATION box when no route is set OR make those features usable even when a route is not set. for example, it does not show you the speed limit when you do not have a route set if the speed limit is one of your criteria. personally, i would actually like it to tell me the speed limit at all times.

 

- navi should tell you what side of the street your destination is on.

 

- radio preset buttons should not be so close together. maybe its just me but i dont always hit the correct button on the first try due to car movement and bumps etc...

 

- it would be nice if there was a CANCEL ROUTE button on the map screen so you dont have to go through 2 or 3 menus just to cancel a route.

 

i think ill stop here because i could go on forever. i figure there is a change pioneer will read this thread looking for feedback.

Posted Nov 04, 2008 · 17:16 UTC#44

The only thing I have on the SD card is the files it says to have and mine would not update. I'll try it again on a different card. :x

Posted Nov 04, 2008 · 17:24 UTC#45
great improvement. kudos pioneer.

 

one thing i wish they would've added would be speed sensitive volume control... but that might be difficult since each car's audio system and acoustics are different. unlike car manufacturers that can calibrate the system with a known car model.

 

not griping, i think pioneer is finally delivering on their product. still. it'd be nice to have.

 

you have to go in the settins and there is a setting for that aswell and you can change the speed that it kicks in at as low as 30-40k/h and 140 i think is max

 

I'm talking about the US version? I'm guessing by your use of the "k/h" that you're not in the US.

 

There is a speed sensitive setting, but that only affects the navigation voice and alert prompts, not the music/video volume.

Posted Nov 04, 2008 · 22:07 UTC#46

I wonder how difficult or costly it is for Pioneer to ask iGo or whoever does the map interface layout to make the requested features. If its easy why the 2d map doesn't have the option to change map orientation from north always up as well as quick access to the navigation menu settings from the map itself. It is really annoying to go main menu - navigation - then settings you want. A quick button on the map screen would be nice.

 

Also, adding a mode for presets to the wired remote interface would be nice.

Posted Nov 05, 2008 · 00:43 UTC#47
with bluetooth:

 

i have a Verizon Razr2 V9M. before the update my phone book tranferred easily on the first try. after I did the BT update it took me about 20 tries before it finally worked. the first 19 tries either gave me a "No Telephone Number" error or would start loading data and then the unit would restart.

 

thats whats happening to me, i keep getting this "NO TELEPHONE NUMBER" message and it just cancels the phonebook transfer (i used windows mobile, which was a flawless experience before) and with phone like the razr it had duplicate contacts and other issues. now it doesnt transfer at all. THIS SUCKS! it was perfect before this. and also so far the bluetooth sound quality is worse. i hear more noise similar to the ORIGINAL firmware which was unusable. Not as bad but its a step backwards for sure.

 

is it possible or safe to DOWNGRADE THE BLUETOOTH firmware back?

Posted Nov 05, 2008 · 03:12 UTC#48

Installed 2.0 today, everything works well.

Boot time less than 30 secs and touch screen response is much faster.

Bluetooth is much better. My Sony phone paired right up and phonebook transfer was a snap. Contacts are now include Home, Office, Cell and etc.

When making calls the phone management box is always there and several people remarked about the sound being better on their end.

Samantha no longer say turn right on 370 Highway 370. She just says turn right on Highway 370, much better. So far i am very happy with this release. Only thing that I would still like fixed is HD and Sirius presets to have station info and the disabling of the built-in AM and FM when the HD unit is plugged in. Even the $300 Pioneer Radios do this.

Posted Nov 05, 2008 · 14:42 UTC#49

Definitely faster, better response

 

But my bluetooth is still screwed up; volume is unbearably loud and I cannot lower it any further without muting it.

Posted Nov 05, 2008 · 15:16 UTC#50
with bluetooth:

 

i have a Verizon Razr2 V9M. before the update my phone book tranferred easily on the first try. after I did the BT update it took me about 20 tries before it finally worked. the first 19 tries either gave me a "No Telephone Number" error or would start loading data and then the unit would restart.

 

thats whats happening to me, i keep getting this "NO TELEPHONE NUMBER" message and it just cancels the phonebook transfer (i used windows mobile, which was a flawless experience before) and with phone like the razr it had duplicate contacts and other issues. now it doesnt transfer at all. THIS SUCKS! it was perfect before this. and also so far the bluetooth sound quality is worse. i hear more noise similar to the ORIGINAL firmware which was unusable. Not as bad but its a step backwards for sure.

 

is it possible or safe to DOWNGRADE THE BLUETOOTH firmware back?

 

Yes, you can easily donwgrade to the alternate bluetooth version. Just download the files, copy to the SD card and install it. Simply replaces the 3 files on the unit, and you are good to go.

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