with bluetooth:

 

i have a Verizon Razr2 V9M. before the update my phone book tranferred easily on the first try. after I did the BT update it took me about 20 tries before it finally worked. the first 19 tries either gave me a "No Telephone Number" error or would start loading data and then the unit would restart.

 

thats whats happening to me, i keep getting this "NO TELEPHONE NUMBER" message and it just cancels the phonebook transfer (i used windows mobile, which was a flawless experience before) and with phone like the razr it had duplicate contacts and other issues. now it doesnt transfer at all. THIS SUCKS! it was perfect before this. and also so far the bluetooth sound quality is worse. i hear more noise similar to the ORIGINAL firmware which was unusable. Not as bad but its a step backwards for sure.

 

is it possible or safe to DOWNGRADE THE BLUETOOTH firmware back?

 

Yes, you can easily donwgrade to the alternate bluetooth version. Just download the files, copy to the SD card and install it. Simply replaces the 3 files on the unit, and you are good to go.

so you mean to the provided ALTERNATE bluetooth file. how would i go back to the ONE i had before? im guessing i cant since its not available...

o okay, 2.9 is the older version.... NICE .

UPDATE:

Not sure what causes this from the PHONE's side. but after downgrading the bluetooth to 2.9 the same NO TELEPHONE NUMBER comes up. Something is not communicating. In fact prior to this, windows mobile would ASK me to allow the Navi permission to access contacts. Now it does not. So ill hard reset my phone and upgrade back.

so i intalled today. seems pretty good so far. avent actully driven yet, so i dont know if i lost my park brake bypass mod or not. if i did can i use the old file or do i have to redo everything allover again?

Being a day one purchaser, this update brings the unit to what my original expectations were. The overall usability is improved and it is very nice to have the contacts transfer without major issues.

GPS - MUCH better without the blue boxes

Bluetooth - seems worse on my iPhone 3g as people are having a much harder time hearing me. I wish they would fix it so the unit changes to GPS mode while on the phone and make the box transparent so you can see the entire GPS screen (i hate how it covers the ETA so you can't tell the person on the phone when you will be there).

Unit itself - MUCH better boot times, button response, etc.

Things I would like to see on future updates:

1. Improve the ipod screen so it isn't so plan (very old looking for such a new unit.

2. Fix the Sirus interface so you can get all the data and doesn't look so freaking old

3. Get real traffic updates. 9.5 times out of 10 the traffic information is incorrect. I normally have to use google maps on my iphone to get real traffic data

4. Better over the air radio interface, dress it up already and give me song information like any newer radio can handle.

Again, this brings the unit to what I had expected from the unit on day one. Hopefully this isn't the last update we get as there is much more work to do to make this the best unit on the market.

So the unit still locks up 33% of the time after disconnecting a call (lockup lasts about 60 seconds or so).

Also, this is annoying, and did not happen pre 2.0 update, but when you go into ipod control, select artist, then choose an artist and start playing... when you click menu, you expect it to go back to the artists song list. Nope, it goes back to the very top menu!! LAME!

It boots fast enough now I suppose, but the lag is still a a problem. I should never ever have to press a button twice to get something to work. I constantly find myself pushing and pushing buttons to get a feature to work.

I've installed the new firmware per the instructions. When my unit rebooted after successfully installing, it flashed the pioneer screen, and then it all went black.

Per the instructions, I have tried all the variations of resetting the unit. Holding the reset button 5+ seconds, holding reset button & eject button 5+ secs, holding the eject button.... etc. etc.

Here's the weird part: When my unit boots, and then goes black, after about 20 seconds or so, I can press the Map button, which takes me to the disclaimer, and then i can do everything with my system.

Also weird: if I do the above, and play the radio, the next time I boot, the screen is and stays black, but the music will play. Black screen doesn't go away until I do the above.

Has anyone had this problem? I see almost nothing but success in the other 2.0 threads....

Update fixed alot of things.

Still things need to be fixed. I know i am repeating a few people.

Navigation needs to tell you what side of the road the destination is on.

Navigation needs to have the arrow always facing up and have the compass move.

Less Frequent directions...

Clock on the Map screen is VERY hard to read, and is too small on the ipod screen.

An option on the touchscreen while you are on the phone through the speakers to change back to the headset.

Problems:

Hit or Miss with the ipod Voice commands.

about 75% of the time I will say Play artist "x" and it will say "playing artist x" but play a random song not by artist "x"

This happens with Play Playlist "x" as well. It will say "playing playlist "x" and then still play a random song not in any playlist.

Any ideas???

I have my itunes flawless and every song is the correct Name and Artist.

tiesto,

Have you added/deleted songs on your iPod since the last time you had the Pioneer reload the VR system? Or do you have the VR system load each time you drive your car?

If not, this is what will happen. ANY time you make a change to your iPod, and have the VR system off, you must remember to turn it on and let the VR reload your iPod contents - otherwise the order is out of whack from what it thinks it knows; thus you get random songs.

If you have the VR system as "OFF" (which is recommended as it takes the iPod portion longer to boot up and become workable) remember to turn it on again and resync your iPod. That should take care of your issues on random song playing. I have started to update it just once a week or so so I don't have to constantly worry about "resyncing" it each time.

I feel bad for all the folks that have all these weird, funky things happening to their unit. I have had mine installed for about a week and a half and thus far (touching wood here!) EVERYTHING works flawlessly! iPod never locks up, Bluetooth phone connects each time, and is perfect in sounds and features, nav system is just fine with me (seems like a lot of folks live and die with all the little idiosycnricies (sp?) of this part, but I never rely on a electronic unit to have to lead me right to the front door of any destination. Get me close and I'll figure it out.)

iPod, XM, HD Radio, DVD movies VR, Bluetooth hands-free, Navigation - this unit thus far has made me a very happy camper. I hope everyone out there gets theirs figured out and has as great an experience as I am having!

Cheers,

Kevin

thank u, i will try that.

This thing is still crap. Sorry to be honest with those people who are happy with it, but it still has MAJOR problems. You are just living with the problems if they don't bother you.

Before 2.0 update, the IPOD would just drop out completely and give the error message that it lost connection.

Now with 2.0, the friking thing half the time isn't even recognized at bootup. You have to unplug the cable and reconnect it to get it working. I have already reported Pioneer to the better business bureau and they have attempted to call me twice but I was not available at the phone.

Also what is with the stupid SD card not showing any titles on the main screen but showing them on the map screen, and the SD card starting over at the beginning every time? How could anyone think that is acceptable?

This product is poor, inferior, and the AVIC Z3 COMPLETELY destroys this thing in every single aspect. Even the Navigation sucks on this thing compared to the Z3.

I have an iPod Video 30GB 5.5G that has dropped the connection twice today. It has been fine since the 2.0 update and now all of a sudden it's started this crap again. That... and the navigation won't stfu even after I put in the fixed version of Samantha, though that's a different story. Right now I'm holding off on putting my Kenwood 8120 up on ebay. I am really missing my Garmin nav.

Dude, same here. Stupid IPOD works for a week, then isn't recognized at bootup for days at a time, and resetting the headunit and IPOD doesn't help. What's with the IPOD staying on when the unit shuts off too? Is it supposed to be like that???

This thing is still crap. Sorry to be honest with those people who are happy with it, but it still has MAJOR problems. You are just living with the problems if they don't bother you.

 

Before 2.0 update, the IPOD would just drop out completely and give the error message that it lost connection.

 

Now with 2.0, the friking thing half the time isn't even recognized at bootup. You have to unplug the cable and reconnect it to get it working. I have already reported Pioneer to the better business bureau and they have attempted to call me twice but I was not available at the phone.

 

Also what is with the stupid SD card not showing any titles on the main screen but showing them on the map screen, and the SD card starting over at the beginning every time? How could anyone think that is acceptable?

 

This product is poor, inferior, and the AVIC Z3 COMPLETELY destroys this thing in every single aspect. Even the Navigation sucks on this thing compared to the Z3.

Dude! Effing sell it already then!

I hate to be honest with YOU, but my unit works, and let me say this slowly for you, P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y. All I'm living with is a great aftermarket headunit that lets me voice command my iPod, talk on my Bluetooth phone hands-free, plays AM/FM, HD radio, XM satellite, navigation and play movies WHILE I DRIVE!

If yours doesn't then get rid of it, burn it, throw it off a bridge, use it as a doorstop, WHATEVER! But quit acting so butthurt and stop whining about it!

Plenty of us have had either no problems or very little! The fact that your unit is so problematic incredibly enough doesn't mean that all of ours are.

Let it go! You sound like some X Box fanboy on the Playstation network!

Does anyone know when OZ will get the firmware updates?

Post update results are good for me as well. (Avic F700BT purchased 1 month ago) Seeing all the same positives as everyone else but I am also seeing a little buggy behavior with the phone calls.

When making, receiving calls the call control box sometimes won't show up right away, sometimes not at all. Also when the call is disconnected sometimes it will sit there for 5-10 seconds before the music comes back on, one time it sat there for about 30 seconds!

IF the call box does show up, it usually works fine and disconnects right away when the call is ended.

There probably SHOULD be a bluetooth FW revision soon at the very least. If you look at the BT update packed with the 2.0 update, the BT update had RC3 in the name. Also known as "Release Candidate 3" which means it was pretty much a final release but could still have bugs and is not the OFFICIAL OFFICIAL final build of the bluetooth software.

Mr. WOMO is now my new hero..... It's about time someone finally said something....

Dude! Effing sell it already then!

 

I hate to be honest with YOU, but my unit works, and let me say this slowly for you, P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y. All I'm living with is a great aftermarket headunit that lets me voice command my iPod, talk on my Bluetooth phone hands-free, plays AM/FM, HD radio, XM satellite, navigation and play movies WHILE I DRIVE!

 

If yours doesn't then get rid of it, burn it, throw it off a bridge, use it as a doorstop, WHATEVER! But quit acting so butthurt and stop whining about it!

 

Plenty of us have had either no problems or very little! The fact that your unit is so problematic incredibly enough doesn't mean that all of ours are.

 

Let it go! You sound like some X Box fanboy on the Playstation network!

Thank You! Some people do not deserve to have money...

I did some testing on the bluetooth, thought you all might find this interesting. Here's what I found using my Samsung SCH-U540 and the latest updates for my AVIC F700BT..

-Sound quality of the person I'm talking to is always good

-Sound quality of me to the other person in inconsistent. Upon call connection, about 50% of the time I sound very distant and poor quality, 'wax paper' or 'tinny' were used. Then, after 5-20 seconds, I start sounding better and better until it reaches 100% quality at which point I sound really good, almost as good as using the handset itself.

-I found that if I adjust the volume during the call (even though this is only adjusting the loudness of the caller on my speakers) it seems to start sounding better sooner. This may be factual or it may just be a coincidence.

So, the sound quality is capable of being very clear, but its not consistently good at call connection.

This thing is still crap. Sorry to be honest with those people who are happy with it, but it still has MAJOR problems. You are just living with the problems if they don't bother you.

 

Before 2.0 update, the IPOD would just drop out completely and give the error message that it lost connection.

 

Now with 2.0, the friking thing half the time isn't even recognized at bootup. You have to unplug the cable and reconnect it to get it working. I have already reported Pioneer to the better business bureau and they have attempted to call me twice but I was not available at the phone.

 

Also what is with the stupid SD card not showing any titles on the main screen but showing them on the map screen, and the SD card starting over at the beginning every time? How could anyone think that is acceptable?

 

This product is poor, inferior, and the AVIC Z3 COMPLETELY destroys this thing in every single aspect. Even the Navigation sucks on this thing compared to the Z3.

 

Dude! Effing sell it already then!

 

I hate to be honest with YOU, but my unit works, and let me say this slowly for you, P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y. All I'm living with is a great aftermarket headunit that lets me voice command my iPod, talk on my Bluetooth phone hands-free, plays AM/FM, HD radio, XM satellite, navigation and play movies WHILE I DRIVE!

 

If yours doesn't then get rid of it, burn it, throw it off a bridge, use it as a doorstop, WHATEVER! But quit acting so butthurt and stop whining about it!

 

Plenty of us have had either no problems or very little! The fact that your unit is so problematic incredibly enough doesn't mean that all of ours are.

 

Let it go! You sound like some X Box fanboy on the Playstation network!

Awesome, yours works. Stop posting in this forum then. You have no business in here.

Dude! Effing sell it already then!

 

I hate to be honest with YOU, but my unit works, and let me say this slowly for you, P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y. All I'm living with is a great aftermarket headunit that lets me voice command my iPod, talk on my Bluetooth phone hands-free, plays AM/FM, HD radio, XM satellite, navigation and play movies WHILE I DRIVE!

 

If yours doesn't then get rid of it, burn it, throw it off a bridge, use it as a doorstop, WHATEVER! But quit acting so butthurt and stop whining about it!

 

Plenty of us have had either no problems or very little! The fact that your unit is so problematic incredibly enough doesn't mean that all of ours are.

 

Let it go! You sound like some X Box fanboy on the Playstation network!

 

Thank You! Some people do not deserve to have money...

You can go f* yourself dude. How about that? I paid GOOD money for this piece of junk, and it's none of your business.

Read the title of the f*ing thread. OPINIONS. Mine is still broken. PERIOD.

Mr. WOMO is now my new hero..... It's about time someone finally said something....

People here are retarded obviously. This forum is for people having problems. If you don't fucking have any, go post somewhere else.

Thank you. Now I'm your hero.

Lesson. If you can't help anyone here, don't post.

Dude! Effing sell it already then!

 

I hate to be honest with YOU, but my unit works, and let me say this slowly for you, P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y. All I'm living with is a great aftermarket headunit that lets me voice command my iPod, talk on my Bluetooth phone hands-free, plays AM/FM, HD radio, XM satellite, navigation and play movies WHILE I DRIVE!

 

If yours doesn't then get rid of it, burn it, throw it off a bridge, use it as a doorstop, WHATEVER! But quit acting so butthurt and stop whining about it!

 

Plenty of us have had either no problems or very little! The fact that your unit is so problematic incredibly enough doesn't mean that all of ours are.

 

Let it go! You sound like some X Box fanboy on the Playstation network!

 

Thank You! Some people do not deserve to have money...

 

You can go f* yourself dude. How about that? I paid GOOD money for this piece of junk, and it's none of your business.

it actually is my business, because of your retarded comments people are choosing other units, you are a dumbfuck you are the only one with the fucking issues, yet instead of calling Pioneer and telling them you bitch on here how it sucks, how you hate it and all the other fucking shit no one gives a fuck about. If you have a problem with it post it in problems and people MIGHT assist you, but dont go bitching and moaning and ruining all threads with this shit.

Dude! Effing sell it already then!

 

I hate to be honest with YOU, but my unit works, and let me say this slowly for you, P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y. All I'm living with is a great aftermarket headunit that lets me voice command my iPod, talk on my Bluetooth phone hands-free, plays AM/FM, HD radio, XM satellite, navigation and play movies WHILE I DRIVE!

 

If yours doesn't then get rid of it, burn it, throw it off a bridge, use it as a doorstop, WHATEVER! But quit acting so butthurt and stop whining about it!

 

Plenty of us have had either no problems or very little! The fact that your unit is so problematic incredibly enough doesn't mean that all of ours are.

 

Let it go! You sound like some X Box fanboy on the Playstation network!

 

Thank You! Some people do not deserve to have money...

 

You can go f* yourself dude. How about that? I paid GOOD money for this piece of junk, and it's none of your business.

 

it actually is my business, because of your retarded comments people are choosing other units, you are a dumbfuck you are the only one with the fucking issues, yet instead of calling Pioneer and telling them you bitch on here how it sucks, how you hate it and all the other fucking shit no one gives a fuck about. If you have a problem with it post it in problems and people MIGHT assist you, but dont go bitching and moaning and ruining all threads with this shit.

Actually dickhead, I have called Pioneer 8 times, reported them to the BBB and started a petition against them about this. I was on the phone with them today actually.

Thank you, sit down and shut up. Opinion given.

Why the fuck are you even in this forum?

Dude! Effing sell it already then!

 

I hate to be honest with YOU, but my unit works, and let me say this slowly for you, P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y. All I'm living with is a great aftermarket headunit that lets me voice command my iPod, talk on my Bluetooth phone hands-free, plays AM/FM, HD radio, XM satellite, navigation and play movies WHILE I DRIVE!

 

If yours doesn't then get rid of it, burn it, throw it off a bridge, use it as a doorstop, WHATEVER! But quit acting so butthurt and stop whining about it!

 

Plenty of us have had either no problems or very little! The fact that your unit is so problematic incredibly enough doesn't mean that all of ours are.

 

Let it go! You sound like some X Box fanboy on the Playstation network!

 

Thank You! Some people do not deserve to have money...

 

You can go f* yourself dude. How about that? I paid GOOD money for this piece of junk, and it's none of your business.

 

you are a dumbfuck you are the only one with the fucking issues, .

RETARDED POST OF THE YEAR ALERT. I AM THE ONLY ONE WITH ISSUES. I guess that's why theres about 300 posts in this forum.

Yup, you are incredibly stupid, and yeah I hope you do feel bad because I have talked about 10 people out of buying this junk.

Dude! Effing sell it already then!

 

I hate to be honest with YOU, but my unit works, and let me say this slowly for you, P-E-R-F-E-C-T-L-Y. All I'm living with is a great aftermarket headunit that lets me voice command my iPod, talk on my Bluetooth phone hands-free, plays AM/FM, HD radio, XM satellite, navigation and play movies WHILE I DRIVE!

 

If yours doesn't then get rid of it, burn it, throw it off a bridge, use it as a doorstop, WHATEVER! But quit acting so butthurt and stop whining about it!

 

Plenty of us have had either no problems or very little! The fact that your unit is so problematic incredibly enough doesn't mean that all of ours are.

 

Let it go! You sound like some X Box fanboy on the Playstation network!

 

Thank You! Some people do not deserve to have money...

 

You can go f* yourself dude. How about that? I paid GOOD money for this piece of junk, and it's none of your business.

 

it actually is my business, because of your retarded comments people are choosing other units, you are a dumbfuck you are the only one with the fucking issues, yet instead of calling Pioneer and telling them you bitch on here how it sucks, how you hate it and all the other fucking shit no one gives a fuck about. If you have a problem with it post it in problems and people MIGHT assist you, but dont go bitching and moaning and ruining all threads with this shit.

 

Actually dickhead, I have called Pioneer 8 times, reported them to the BBB and started a petition against them about this. I was on the phone with them today actually.

 

Thank you, sit down and shut up. Opinion given.

 

Why the fuck are you even in this forum?

report a company to BBB due to user stupidity, yes... they will take you seriously... if you did what you even claim

sit down shut the fuck up? wow... real original...

I am on this forum like the other thousands of users to put in their 2 cents, well everyone but you who keeps bitching like its the time of the month.