Thanks Boris.
Another small question . . I was looking at color.ini file and found this:
heightcolormap="$skin$/common/dayheightcolormap.bmp
The "skin" folder (subfolder) is something that i could not find anywhere under IGO folder. The dayheightcolormap.bmp exists actually in ui_pioner/common folder . .
I would greatly appreciate your opinion.
Thanks, Bob
You're welcome. $skin$ is a pointer to whatever the currently active skin is. In our case it always is ui_pioneer.
If you put a line in SYS.TXT to look at SD card for content folder, it will work for DEM (landscape) files, too...
Will it only look in the sd card or will it check flashdisc first then sd
It will look at whatever path you store there.
You're welcome. $skin$ is a pointer to whatever the currently active skin is. In our case it always is ui_pioneer.
Hi Boris. Thanks a lot again for your help.
Here is the problem: despite that the file "dayheightcolormap.bmp" exists in "Ui_pioneer" folder, I cannot get the 3 dimensional look of the terrain. I have zoomed my 3D map all a way to the end, and I have got the map picture which is jagged at the last top quarter of the screen (please see the attached picture). Looks that the part of the map picture which is approximately positioned at the same place where is supposed to be "blue box" is simply "disabled". There is no details above one very straight line. For your info, I do have Igo8 om my PDA and this 3D terrain feature is fully and nicely shown ( I am living in a "mountainous" area). I suspect that Pioneer disabled this feature purposely for some reason (memory usage or so . . )
I would be verry happy If you have any explanation or fix for this problem.
Best regards, Bob
Here is the problem: despite that the file "dayheightcolormap.bmp" exists in "Ui_pioneer" folder, I cannot get the 3 dimensional look of the terrain. I have zoomed my 3D map all a way to the end, and I have got the map picture which is jagged at the last top quarter of the screen (please see the attached picture). Looks that the part of the map picture which is approximately positioned at the same place where is supposed to be "blue box" is simply "disabled". There is no details above one very straight line. For your info, I do have Igo8 om my PDA and this 3D terrain feature is fully and nicely shown ( I am living in a "mountainous" area). I suspect that Pioneer disabled this feature purposely for some reason (memory usage or so . . )I would be verry happy If you have any explanation or fix for this problem.
Best regards, Bob
I live in Illinois which is basically flat, but with Xerces color schemes if I zoom out far enough (much further than on your screenshot) I do get 3D terrain view. I'll compare to what I can get if running on my phone and see if it looks better there. Also, the default DEM file isn't terribly detailed, so I would not expect every local hill to show up...
I live in Illinois which is basically flat, but with Xerces color schemes if I zoom out far enough (much further than on your screenshot) I do get 3D terrain view. I'll compare to what I can get if running on my phone and see if it looks better there. Also, the default DEM file isn't terribly detailed, so I would not expect every local hill to show up...
Boris,
Just to let you know that the screenshot shows the maximum zoom-out (not just far enough) that I have been able to do. Is there any "ini" file which defines maximum zoom-out or how far the details could be shown. The real distance from the bottom of the screenshot to the top "vanishing" point is about 3/4 mile - as you can see after this straight line there is nothing? If there are two colors (town zone and forest - for example) painted inside this area that is going to be shown as a mix of jagged blotches. I have changed several different color schemes - no improvements . . .
Thanks again for all your efforts,
BobD
You could try playing with these values:
[map]
3d_max_tiltlevel=8550
3d_max_zoomlevel=300
3d_max_zfar=400
auto_nightmode=0
3d_scale_carmodel=1
3dcarsizemin=1000
3dcarsizemax=3000
I imagine 3d_max_zoomlevel (and 3d_min_zoomlevel) might give you something...
You could try playing with these values:[map]
3d_max_tiltlevel=8550
3d_max_zoomlevel=300
3d_max_zfar=400
auto_nightmode=0
3d_scale_carmodel=1
3dcarsizemin=1000
3dcarsizemax=3000
I imagine 3d_max_zoomlevel (and 3d_min_zoomlevel) might give you something...
Hi Boris and thanks for the proposed values.
I was playing this weekend with a different values for zoom and tilt. It works perfect. Now, I am able to get much better angles in 3D map.
Unfortunately, looks that Pioneer's version of IGO does not "understand" DEM files which is essential for getting elevation data. Without elevation data "dayheightcolormap.bmp" simply does not "paint" the map. I was driving with my PDA Igo8 GPS which clearly painted landscape shapes and colors. The same terrain shown on Pioneer F700BT was totally flat . . .
It looks that Pioneer has intentionally disabled this Igo feature . . .
BobD
Well, they did include DEM files with the unit, and landscape does show up in 2D map. It might be that the landscape on the unit is not very datailed, and a more exaggerated heightmap would help. I think there are some replacement heightmap files on, say, i-go8.com...
Well, they did include DEM files with the unit, and landscape does show up in 2D map. It might be that the landscape on the unit is not very datailed, and a more exaggerated heightmap would help. I think there are some replacement heightmap files on, say, i-go8.com...
Thanks again Boris.
There is the fix for the landscape problem. Actualy, the DEM file which I have in my IGO 8 (for PDA) did work in my Pioneer unit. I have replaced the original DEM file from Pioneer with that one from IGO 8. It works perfect - all landscapes, mountains etc. are now nicely painted and visible. Pretty much realistic 3D scenery of the landscape. Even more, the horizon line that I see trough my windshield has the same shape that I have now at the screen of my F700BT unit.
Best regards, BobD 
Any possible way you could make that file accessible to the rest of us.
Thanks for sharing Boris, I will try this for my 700bt tomorrow. 
Is there any .3dc files for the US. (Specifically California) but I can't find any out on the net so far.
If someone would be so kind and point me in the right way I would appreciate it.
There should be tons of them... Torrent trackers might be a place to check...
For those who could not see buildings -- Real View color scheme has very good building visibility. Of course then you don't see anything else in downtowns...
BorisM,
Looks like I found most everything. Is the basemap still dated 2007? I'm still not seeing any buildings around me yet. When I drive into work tomorrow maybe I will see more.
Thanks for all the help.
Real View color scheme
Is there any other official color scheme than the 2 basic coming with the Avic ? Since there is an option to change color scheme, i would have expected Pioneer to provide us more color scheme than the original ones...
Can you tell me where can i download and how to install other scheme like the one you mentionned ?
Thanks.
BorisM,
Looks like I found most everything. Is the basemap still dated 2007? I'm still not seeing any buildings around me yet. When I drive into work tomorrow maybe I will see more.
Thanks for all the help.
Basemap I think is still the same (continents don't change shape that often). There are US maps a bit newer than the ones on the unit, though.
Real View color scheme
Is there any other official color scheme than the 2 basic coming with the Avic ? Since there is an option to change color scheme, i would have expected Pioneer to provide us more color scheme than the original ones...
Can you tell me where can i download and how to install other scheme like the one you mentionned ?
Thanks.
Check the Color Schemes thread here, I post all I find in there. You can also use any iGO 8 color scheme you find,m with minimal changes...
BorisM, first off thank you for everything that you do here! I have dubbed you the Mad Scientist to my tech friends (so they know who I am talking about when I run out to my truck every 15 minutes...).
I have found the current 3DL and 3DC files as well as an newer DEM file. They have all been placed in the correct folders. I have added the line to the SYS and in comparing my settings to yours, I saw that I needed to add this,
With all of this done, I still see no buildings. Even in Downtown Los Angeles I cannot find a single building. Can you give me any idea what I might be missing?
Thank you in advance,
Terry
Hmmm... If you did add things to setting.ui, can you go to Visual settings page and make sure that building display is turned on. Also, you need a) hacked ezrider.exe, 
license file, c) 3DC files. If you have all of these and it sdtill does not work we'll need to troubleshoot it...
Thank you again Sir... Im not sure how I missed the ezrider.exe hack install.... But I did.
DL'd it, installed it, and now have buildings!
I am not aware of anywhere on this site where donations are solicited, but there are a few people here who I would like to either, a. donate to directly or b. donate to the forum in their names...
Let me know if this is possible!
Terry
Does this display a button to set the building detail? Is there any other code needed to make this work???
Can either Boris or Bob post where the zoom and tilt level settings were. I have done a FIND for them in all of the .UI's and cant seem to find these settings. I would like to be able to tilt farther down than what is currently available.
TIA,
Terry
Can either Boris or Bob post where the zoom and tilt level settings were. I have done a FIND for them in all of the .UI's and cant seem to find these settings. I would like to be able to tilt farther down than what is currently available.TIA,
Terry
SYS.TXT:
[map]
3d_max_tiltlevel=8550 ; Sets max. tilt to 85.5 degtrees; Also min_tiltlevel
3d_max_zoomlevel=300 ; Also, 3d_min_zoomlevel and _default_zoomlevel
3d_max_zfar=400
auto_nightmode=0
3d_scale_carmodel=1
3dcarsizemin=4000
3dcarsizemax=6000
3dcarsizemul=60000
inertia_on_map_move=1
Worked flawlessly, thanks again Boris!
You're welcome!