AFAIK, the update is expected to release sometime in June. From what I've been reading, the DNX9140 is expected to release in April. Quite a few members here have shown interest to Kenwood's new unit and will probably (myself included) ditch the F Series for it.

Looks sweet but MSRP $2K? I think I will stick to my little $400 unit for awhile. My 700 has been working pretty well so far but it is early days.

Besides it won't be long for someone to totally re-write the software for this thing

I do admit though that the larger screen is cool. if the VR is better and I can use my current iPod cable, HD box and Steering wheel adapter that would entice me more.

Damn you putting this in my head now

It is simple. Pioneer owes the fixes to this product to the people who purchased it. I paid more because I bought from a local dealer. I kick my ass every time I think about it but didn't know this forum existed until after the fact.

The list is long for features advertised and not delivered. The units are "buggy" and prone to failure at any moment. Just read the threads and then compare to problems associated with the "Z" Series. Big difference.

Pioneer let this thing out of the barn too soon. They know it and we certainly know it and all done in the interest of market share and profit. I could list all the issues, but we know them well. That is why there are thousands of posts asking how to make a function work or repair a bricked unit. Hacks are abundant and mostly to try and fix what Pioneer omitted or compromised just to get the product to market. Well they got our money but in the process moved a lot of folks over to Kenwood. I am sure Kenwood appreciates Pioneer's efforts.

I am all for a group buy or someone hosting the revision when and if it ever materializes and have no intention of "PAYING" Pioneer another cent of my money to fix something that should have been right in the first place. The way I see it they should issue a voucher to registered owners of the F series product to get a free replacement when the new models release.

Do we know how much the update will be form the guy who has the insider info?

Someone pissed him off and left the site. Shame.

sounds more like he was a lying troll then.

anyone who is trying to just pass on useful info wouldn't act like that.

Might be a Kenwood rep looking to push people to the dark side.

Fortunalty i paid around $300 for my 700, and as much as another $100 is not a big purchase there is something wrong with the idea of buying a product, and then paying again to have it work as expected.....in my mind its kinda like if you bought a new benz for $90k, and when you went to pick it up you found it sitting on blocks...the dealer walks out with a smile and casually asks "oh, you want tires with that; there another $1500"

 

In the big picture another $1500 is not that big of a deal, but you would deffinatly be shocked (and pissed) they were not included

LMFAO, this was a funny statement, but i totally agree with you. thats how i feel. im actually thinking about getting rid of my f90bt and getting the D3, because i had a D1 before that, and even though the features were limited, the functions were 1xmillion times better

Wait, since when did we have to pay for an update? Maybe I skipped something here, but who said you might have to pay for it?

If anything, those who are able should track down the right department/people and send them letters of all the unhappy people who bought these systems. I'm fairly happy with mine, certain things could be better (USB/SD card movie playing for instance), but from what I've read there are a lot of issues.

There is no way in hell I will pay for an update on a unit that does not deliver what it said it should on the box and their website. Who do we have to go after to get the ball rolling faster or to be paid attention to?

I contacted Pioneer recently on two occasions. Once for the daylight savings issue, which fixed itself hopefully they fix it by fall, anyway the second was about a map update to which they replied;

[email protected] to *********@gmail.com

 

Mr Rasmussen

 

Navi-upgrades generally comes out Spring of each year. So please continue to monitor our web site for this years upgrade.

 

 

 

Thank You,

 

Nicole

Customer Service Representative

I don't know if that helps...

Wait, since when did we have to pay for an update? Maybe I skipped something here, but who said you might have to pay for it?

 

If anything, those who are able should track down the right department/people and send them letters of all the unhappy people who bought these systems. I'm fairly happy with mine, certain things could be better (USB/SD card movie playing for instance), but from what I've read there are a lot of issues.

 

There is no way in hell I will pay for an update on a unit that does not deliver what it said it should on the box and their website. Who do we have to go after to get the ball rolling faster or to be paid attention to?

I totally agree with you on this I am not going to pay nor anyone else should for an update that should have been released with these units. Pioneer should have had all these issues taken care of in QC before it left the manufacture. Version 2.0 update was a band-aid on a bullet wound. Don't get me wrong, the concept of these unit is awesome but fall way short of what was advertised and Pioneer knows this and that is why they came came out with Version 2.0 in hopes of fixing the issues of units. If they were to even attempt to charge for the update they know that's just a lawsuit waiting to happen... can anyone say "class action"?

[email protected] to *********@gmail.com

 

Mr Rasmussen

 

Navi-upgrades generally comes out Spring of each year. So please continue to monitor our web site for this years upgrade.

 

 

 

Thank You,

 

Nicole

Customer Service Representative

I just got off the phone with Pioneer BeNeLux. They told me there will be a paid map update in July. This in response to a complaint I send about getting maps from 2007 on my F900BT from 2009.

Screw paying for it. I feel really bad for those who paid retail for this and then found out all the problems. But as I've said before...we should all pitch in a couple $$ to buy it and share it with eachother. What format would it be in? Dvd?sd card?

Screw paying for it. I feel really bad for those who paid retail for this and then found out all the problems. But as I've said before...we should all pitch in a couple $$ to buy it and share it with eachother. What format would it be in? Dvd?sd card?

They aren't in the business of losing money. I'd imagine they would use something simliar to the MSNDirect activation code but obviously I don't know. There was certainly sharing of D-series updates, but who knows.

I'd also like to sit back and make sure all the mods still work before updating to new maps when my old one work pretty well.

hmmmm just noticed it said "Map Update" - that might cast a shadow on 3.0 since he just referred to the July update as a map update...

The 3.0 update is both a software and a map update. The reason it will be a paid upgrade is due to the map licensing fees. However, it may be split into two options, software (free) and if you want to pay, then maps as well.

The 3.0 update is both a software and a map update. The reason it will be a paid upgrade is due to the map licensing fees. However, it may be split into two options, software (free) and if you want to pay, then maps as well.

That is what Pioneer told my dealer. According to my dealer per Pioneer: There will be a free 3.0 update and a separate paid map upgrade. So can we please stop speculating and spreading paranoia and just wait and see.

The 3.0 update is both a software and a map update. The reason it will be a paid upgrade is due to the map licensing fees. However, it may be split into two options, software (free) and if you want to pay, then maps as well.

JasonH:

In the next update, will the F700 be able to control preset radio stations from the steering wheel instead of doing annoying scans? This is very dangerous as well if I wanted to go from 88.5 to 93.9, I should be able to press one button on my wheel as opposed to scanning station by station from my wheel to get it.

http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic. ... t+steering

I wish we could enable A2DP streaming over bluetooth. My last pioneer (single din, non-touchscreen) had that great feature.

Surely someone can create a key generator for the new maps. I'll gladly donate some $ to that cause. Anyway if not...then we can use leetlauncher's program to run other software like TomTom with newest maps. I have found the newest versions (v7 and v8) of TomTom maps at ppcwarez.com.

 

I just got off the phone with Pioneer BeNeLux. They told me there will be a paid map update in July. This in response to a complaint I send about getting maps from 2007 on my F900BT from 2009.

you should know that all map data is about 18 months old on any unit you get, factory or aftermarket. believe it or not, it takes time to gather information about new roads, road constuction and rerouting, point of interests etc... then disemminate the data then check the data then distribute the data then put the data into an application. it is unreasonable to think that you will get 2009 map data on a unit that was purchase in 2009 and given that the F series were manufactured in 2008, it makes it even more impossible.

I am more concerned about the hacks I already applied. What happens to them?

Thank you for contacting Pioneer Electronics, Inc.

Thanks for the feed-back on the unit, I will pass it along to the product engineers.

At this time, I am not aware of any updates to come soon.

Map upgrades are usually released about mid year.

Thank You,

Pioneer Support Group

I wish we could enable A2DP streaming over bluetooth. My last pioneer (single din, non-touchscreen) had that great feature.

 

Surely someone can create a key generator for the new maps. I'll gladly donate some $ to that cause. Anyway if not...then we can use leetlauncher's program to run other software like TomTom with newest maps. I have found the newest versions (v7 and v8) of TomTom maps at ppcwarez.com.

I REALLY wish it had this as well. Then I could stream internet radio from my phone directly to it without the wire.

how necessary would new maps be? is there a lot of changes?

Any new information out on this yet?

Pretty much every GPS manufacturer charges for map updates, I don't blame Pioneer if they do too.

Here's simple, no-excuse fixes I want to see:

Make the steering wheel remote seek up/down differentiate between a tap and hold for preset up/down and seek up/down.

Make the source or band button also differentiate between a tap and hold for source change / voice command.

Fix the swap to map when the phone rings bug.

Turn on/off beeps.

Let answer call button also be the end call button.

Pipedreams:

Let the voice commands control music on USB so I can use any drive I want instead of iPod.

A2DP.

I would not mind paying for a map update, but ONLY if it is an upgrade from the current software. Such as 8.0 to 8.3

Did 8.3 really add anything besides maps and POIs?

IMHO, A2DP should not be a hard update to apply. The hardware (BT1.2) would support it, it's the software (most likely the BT Stack) that does not. As I have stated in another thread, WinCE inherently supports A2DP. Parrot has product that do A2DP. There's no reason from a design standpoint why it could not have been included.

I think there is some other motive for Pioneer not adding this to the F-series in the first place. The main thing that pops in my head is that streaming audio from a cell phone would take away from other sales. Case in point: If I had A2DP in my F700, I could stream Sirius from my phone to the unit. If I don't have that and want Sirius, I have to buy additional equipment. From a business standpoint, while I don't agree with it, following that logic I see why it's not enabled.

I would like to hope that Pioneer is reading forums like this and seeing the features that people want most to include in their latest updates. Quite frankly, that makes the most sense - give people what they want, they will be happier about the unit and tell more people about it, you get more sales through word of mouth. I'm not going to get crazy regarding what the unit was advertised to do vs what it really does, as there is one feature (A2DP) that I was stupid and didn't do my research on that I was disappointed wasn't available. Response time? Meh, I can't fully complain. Paying for new maps? Hey, just about every GPS unit out there requires you to pay for new maps. More control over button beeps? That should be a gimme, but there are simple workarounds for that, even without hacking.

I guess bottom line here for me is if 3.0 adds A2DP functionality, I'll gladly pay for it.