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F900BT reboots over and over - Very weird - HELP!!

By impulsive.ca · Mar 14, 2009in Problems/Troubleshooting💬 187 posts👁️ 67,460 views
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Posted Sep 13, 2009 · 10:18 UTC#126

I was originally on 2.0, which got hit with the reboot bug. I wiped, updated to the hacked 3.0, and was working great again. About two months later, it's rebooting again. I haven't tried the fix yet, but I wanted to sharethe circumstances under which this occurred.

 

In both cases, the GPS routing was ACTIVE. I had an active route/path and the GPS was giving directions. In the 2.0 reboot case, the GPS started acting erratically, it would show the car somewhere on the map where it clearly wasn't (such as driving on the water). Then it rebooted, and the reboot bug began.

 

With the 3.0 reboot case, while driving along it just died and reboot and it started all over again. I wasn't doing anything except listening to music, and I didn't even touch the unit. It just rebooted and started all over again. I can't really tell what is triggering this issue, but it doesn't seem limited to the 2.0 firmware. Indeed, it sounds like it might be a fatal flaw in the software that's writing these corrupt files.

Posted Sep 23, 2009 · 20:48 UTC#127

is there a way to manually disable the GPS? Has anyone ever tried to remove the GPS antenna before start up? Thanks for any tips to get into WINCE or testmode so I can correc this issue.

 

~Bonesy

 

Yes, disconnect the GPS antenna from the back of the unit. I did this to stop my unit from rebooting so I could listen to music. Unfortunately I still have not found a solution to the reboot problem. I have tried everything in this thread short of updating to 3.0 as I'm not willing to pay for an update. I've now removed the unit from my car and I'm waiting for Pioneer to get back to me on how I should return it to them for repair or replacement.

Posted Sep 24, 2009 · 18:57 UTC#128

After udating my F900Bt EU im having the same problem, it boots to a black screen and i can here the fan spinning but thats it.

 

Trying the format and recopy the flash disk at the moment, does anyone have any other ideas?

Posted Oct 06, 2009 · 23:26 UTC#129

I had the same problem as vegaslaptop where my f90bt started rebooting one fine day (10/1/2009) all by itself. It will stay on for a few minutes and play any audio source but the GPS screens would not work (System startup in progress please wait message) and going into Map would freeze the unit, though audio would play until it rebooted 3-4 minutes later.

 

The system never had an issue prior to the install of the legit pioneer v3.0 code and new maps.

 

I booted into testmode 2.3 and deleted the gpspar0,1,2,3 files as suggested by vegaslaptop. It did not fix the problem for me. I repeated it several times and deleted the files in different order and did not make a difference.

 

Extending vegaslaptop logic that there must be some state data that is corrupt that was being read over and over, I looked for files with the date stamp of when my unit first started rebooting (10/1). lo and behold found a bunch in the iGo folder located here:

 

My device\My flashdisk\user\userdata\iGo\save

 

The assumption was these files must be bad because if the system was getting initialized properly, then they would be overwritten with today's date.

 

First I copied the save folder above to a usb stick and then deleted the following files which all had a date of 10/1/2009 when my unit first started rebooting.

 

Lang_key

msnd

msnd1

permanent_v1

settings_lowlevel_v1

settings_v2

system

 

Then I deleted the gpspar0.bin, 1, 2, 3 again from the root of my flashdisk just for good measure. Rebooted the system and voila! no more reboots!

 

Hope this trick works for those like me that the original gpspar file deletion didn't.

 

Thank you vegaslaptop for starting me down the right track!

Posted Nov 08, 2009 · 19:15 UTC#130

I followed the instructions outlined in smovva post and that corrected my problem. I attempted deleting the gpsparX files first with no success. Thanks for the write-up.

 

I had the same problem as vegaslaptop where my f90bt started rebooting one fine day (10/1/2009) all by itself. It will stay on for a few minutes and play any audio source but the GPS screens would not work (System startup in progress please wait message) and going into Map would freeze the unit, though audio would play until it rebooted 3-4 minutes later.

 

The system never had an issue prior to the install of the legit pioneer v3.0 code and new maps.

 

I booted into testmode 2.3 and deleted the gpspar0,1,2,3 files as suggested by vegaslaptop. It did not fix the problem for me. I repeated it several times and deleted the files in different order and did not make a difference.

 

Extending vegaslaptop logic that there must be some state data that is corrupt that was being read over and over, I looked for files with the date stamp of when my unit first started rebooting (10/1). lo and behold found a bunch in the iGo folder located here:

 

My device\My flashdisk\user\userdata\iGo\save

 

The assumption was these files must be bad because if the system was getting initialized properly, then they would be overwritten with today's date.

 

First I copied the save folder above to a usb stick and then deleted the following files which all had a date of 10/1/2009 when my unit first started rebooting.

 

Lang_key

msnd

msnd1

permanent_v1

settings_lowlevel_v1

settings_v2

system

 

Then I deleted the gpspar0.bin, 1, 2, 3 again from the root of my flashdisk just for good measure. Rebooted the system and voila! no more reboots!

 

Hope this trick works for those like me that the original gpspar file deletion didn't.

 

Thank you vegaslaptop for starting me down the right track!

Posted Jan 11, 2010 · 03:10 UTC#131

My device\My flashdisk\user\userdata\iGo\save

 

The assumption was these files must be bad because if the system was getting initialized properly, then they would be overwritten with today's date.

 

First I copied the save folder above to a usb stick and then deleted the following files which all had a date of 10/1/2009 when my unit first started rebooting.

 

Lang_key

msnd

msnd1

permanent_v1

settings_lowlevel_v1

settings_v2

system

 

Then I deleted the gpspar0.bin, 1, 2, 3 again from the root of my flashdisk just for good measure. Rebooted the system and voila! no more reboots!

 

Hope this trick works for those like me that the original gpspar file deletion didn't.

 

 

I tried this method myself today and had no luck. I was at my wits end trying about 9 different procedures that I've found on this forum to fix my constant rebooting issue. I finally decided to take smovva's method one step further and just delete ABSOLUTELY everything in that "\My flashdisk\user\userdata\iGo\save" folder. And TA-DA! It freakin' worked!

Posted Jan 12, 2010 · 23:25 UTC#132

I have the 900bt and I have the same problem. I called pioneer and they told me send it back. I have to pay to get uninstalled and send back that is crazy. All that money I paid and then this. I dont want to send back cause they gon have it forever. I need to know if there is anything I can do to fix this problem. I dont even want to drive because I have no sounds.

Posted Jan 13, 2010 · 16:18 UTC#133
I need to know if there is anything I can do to fix this problem. I dont even want to drive because I have no sounds.

 

You need to try to follow these steps we've laid out here. It took me about 3 days to finally fix mine. But I was able to pull it off.

Posted Jan 14, 2010 · 04:57 UTC#134
04gmc,

Your testmode issue has been experienced by other users. Here's one of the links I found

http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=23852&p=163944&hilit=testmode#p163944

 

If this link does not help, please try to search for "testmode" and you will see different solutions to get into testmode.

 

Hope this helps!

 

This link certainly helped me. My F900BT was constantly rebooting at the splash screen. I couldnt even get into the testmode. I followed the instructions of this link - press reset and eject button together for 5 seconds, release the reset but keep the eject button pressed a few more seconds and release - and i was able to get into the testmode. Then i went ahead and deleted those temo BIN files and the device works now !!! Many many many thanks to all those details without which I would have been completely lost. THANK YOU !!!

Posted Jan 22, 2010 · 19:40 UTC#135

Hey guys,

 

I have the same rebooting problem on the f900bt (JUST INSTALLED). Not new. I have a question though, my unit works fine when I'm NOT moving, but as soon as I start driving it gets fritzed. Does anyone else have this problem? I'm gonna look at the wiring first, because it does have the bypass mod.

 

Does the parking break wire on the VEHICLE need to be altered?

 

Thanks guys, I'm sorry to beat a dead horse. I'll be trying the solutions listed here, just trying to find out if my problem is actually the same.

 

Allen

Posted Jan 22, 2010 · 23:11 UTC#136

1) Past issues (reboots, freezing) -- None

2) Have you (or professional) upgraded your Avic to the latest update -- 3.01 Myself

3) Did the issue start before or after the update, if applicable? -- months after the update

4) Did the issue start after a hack, a mod or a bypass? -- nope, stable for weeks

5) How long have you had the hacks, mods or bypass? -- months

6) How long has the unit worked without a problem? -- months

 

I have an f90bt, unofficial 3.0 upgrade, then to 3.01. been running IDT's skin for months with no issues at all. the other night i got stuck in the reboot loop. managed to figure out that the reset eject would allow the unit to boot normally and proceeded to do a fresh install of 3.0 and then 3.01. seemed to fix it, then i would randomly reboot. i tried the steps listed here (deleting the bin files, the files in the save dir) but it still will randomly reboot. I have now noticed that it only seems to reboot when i receive a phone call via bluetooth (iphone). within seconds of connecting the call, the unit reboots, loads back up and seems to be fine. can something in the BT files have become corrupt? i turned off BT and the unit seems to not be rebooting. (sorry if this is a stupid question) can i use the BT update on pioneer's website even though i have upgraded to 3.01?

Posted Feb 27, 2010 · 18:15 UTC#137

THIS WORKS......

Posted Feb 28, 2010 · 20:40 UTC#138

Im guessing I should elaborate..

 

Deleting the GSP files didnt do anything but deleteing the files in the sub directory.... worked liek a charm

Posted Mar 13, 2010 · 20:59 UTC#139

Is it possible to fix the problem by just deleting the files and not have a backup disk?

Posted Mar 23, 2010 · 02:11 UTC#140

Thanks Vegas deleting the 4 files worked for me... My 900 was rebooting over and over at the splash screen. It would work sometimes, then do the same thing. Oh and I deleted the files in the order from 3-2-1-0. I updated the firmware to 3.0 a few weeks ago, not sure if that had anything to do with it. Pioneer really fuked up on this, I wonder it the new 2010 models are gonna have the same problems...

Posted Mar 30, 2010 · 00:50 UTC#141

can someone help me? i have the reboot problem and i already deleted the 4 gps files and my unit keeps robooting. anyone knows what else i can do?

Posted Apr 03, 2010 · 14:47 UTC#142

i did the same thing, i removed the 4 GPS files, didnt solve the problem. i then reverted back to 2.0 , it didnt solve the problem either. im at a loss.

Posted Apr 04, 2010 · 02:01 UTC#143

Hi today i had updated my sd card with new music and when i went to load it in, it gave me a fatal error exception and from there on i started getting the constant reboot. Ive been pulling my hair trying to figure out how to fix this problem. I removed all the gps files numerous times, i removed the imgr file that was dated to today right before it started giving me the restart. Is there any other way that this could be fixed? maybe with a 3.0 install or something? please help mee. I dont want to send it in to repair because its such a pain in the neck reconnecting it and i need music!! There were no other files in the igo folder with todays date but that file. I noticed someone mentioned to delete all the sub folders but where are those located? PLEASEEEE HELP

Posted Apr 04, 2010 · 02:08 UTC#144

i did a re-install of 3.0002 and for me its working fine now. if you have the 3.0 software, re-install it. if not, i can throw it on a dvd for u. pm me.

Posted Apr 05, 2010 · 18:17 UTC#145

i did a hard reset by pressing the reset and the eject button for ten seconds then letting go of the reset button and now the restart problem went away and now i have a constant system statup is in progress please wait message and my gps doesnt work because i cant get past the caution message where you have to press ok. What can i do to fix this?

Posted May 06, 2010 · 03:03 UTC#146

Okay, I went threw and removed the four "corrupt" files and restared the unit, and it did the same thig over again.

So I was curious and went and check it and the four files were back, as stated, but the issues is still there. Any other suggestions?

Posted May 10, 2010 · 03:52 UTC#147

What's going on guys?

 

Well just like the rest of the users in this thread, I am having the same issue. I was able to start my F900BT using Safe Mode SD and deleted all 4 GPSDATA*.BIN files. I shutoff the ignition, remove the SD card and start the car again. As long as the car is parked the radio stays on just fine; however, as soon as I start moving the unit displays the following warning and it reboots:

 

Caution!

System detected improper connection of Parking brake lead. Please check your configuration for safety. Please see operation manual for more information regarding safe operation.

 

I've had this radio since 2008 and never had this issue until the last month where I pretty much have been driving without being able to listen to music.... I've made sure that my Pioneer.ini has 200mph for parking_brake_speed which has been like that since day one yet i'm still having this issue.

 

Any ideas?

Posted May 24, 2010 · 19:17 UTC#148

hi

i changed my car yesterday and took my satnav out of my old car and into my new car today.

 

the prob i have is in both cars, whether its on dvd, radio, cd, usb whatever, it plays fine whilst the car isnt moving but when being driven, the whole unit cuts out around every 40 to 60 secs

 

this started about 2 months ago in the old car and is still the same in the new one

 

today ive been having a play around disconnecting various things, and ive found it all works fine if i disconnect the gps antenna !!

i purchased another gps antenna and fitted that to the unit, but still the same.

 

i have just finished reading this 10 page post, i find it very informative and looks like theres a few guys on here that really know their stuff !

 

i will be fitting my unit back into the car sometime this week, and will try the suggetions on this post to resolve my fault, hopefully :D

Posted May 25, 2010 · 14:26 UTC#149
What's going on guys?

 

Well just like the rest of the users in this thread, I am having the same issue. I was able to start my F900BT using Safe Mode SD and deleted all 4 GPSDATA*.BIN files. I shutoff the ignition, remove the SD card and start the car again. As long as the car is parked the radio stays on just fine; however, as soon as I start moving the unit displays the following warning and it reboots:

 

Caution!

System detected improper connection of Parking brake lead. Please check your configuration for safety. Please see operation manual for more information regarding safe operation.

 

I've had this radio since 2008 and never had this issue until the last month where I pretty much have been driving without being able to listen to music.... I've made sure that my Pioneer.ini has 200mph for parking_brake_speed which has been like that since day one yet i'm still having this issue.

 

Any ideas?

 

Your bypass isn't done correctly. Whether software or hardware...

Posted May 28, 2010 · 15:33 UTC#150

hi, right i got the hu back in the car.

 

i downloaded the ver 2.3 testmode to an sd card, put in hu powered up pushed reset and eject at same time for 5 secs then released reset whilst holding in eject button for a few secs more......... the lights were pulsing but didnt go into testmode at all, just went through the normal start up sequence each time i tried.

i feel it would be quite easy to delete the neccessary files when i can eventually get into testmode !! lol

 

have i done something wrong ?

 

cheers guys

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