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By JCinderella · Mar 18, 2009in Hacks/Mods💬 109 posts👁️ 21,283 views
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Posted May 01, 2009 · 16:41 UTC#76

 

Pyle - 4 Way Car TV Antenna - PLVWAN1 looks pretty good for what I want. thanks for posting the link.

 

Good find, I'm looking at the super high range deluxe one. If it's magnetic it may be perfect for my truck. I already ordered the flat one from the eBay link posted earlier so I'll try that first and see how it goes.

Posted May 04, 2009 · 01:41 UTC#77

Has anyone tried connecting a slingbox to their head unit? This would be best if it would work with my DVR at home. I'm not sure what type of antenna they use.

Posted May 04, 2009 · 20:34 UTC#78

 

Pyle - 4 Way Car TV Antenna - PLVWAN1 looks pretty good for what I want. thanks for posting the link.

 

Good find, I'm looking at the super high range deluxe one. If it's magnetic it may be perfect for my truck. I already ordered the flat one from the eBay link posted earlier so I'll try that first and see how it goes.

 

 

According from the previous post, that flat antenna from ebay doesn't work when the car is in motion. Let me know how it goes with the super high range deluxe antenna. I'm thinking of purchasing one too.

Posted May 05, 2009 · 02:24 UTC#79

Does anyone know if those antennas are going to work after the digital switch? I didn't see anything on there about them being HDTV compatible or about them being digital compatible...

Posted May 05, 2009 · 12:47 UTC#80

My understanding is that as long as it is a VHF/UHF antenna, it will receive both digital and analog signals.

The antenna is not the issue w/ getting digital TV reception while driving, its the converter box. This was discussed earlier. You basically have to have a fancy digital converter box that can take into account motion (like a cell phone).

Posted May 05, 2009 · 12:55 UTC#81
Does anyone know if those antennas are going to work after the digital switch? I didn't see anything on there about them being HDTV compatible or about them being digital compatible...

All those "HDTV antennas" or "digital TV antennas" are a gimmick marketing trick. There's no difference between those and you're old regular "analog antennas" from the 70's. They'll all receive the same signals. Some may receive that signal much better though. Do some thorough reviewing to see which one is going to work best before buying.

Posted May 05, 2009 · 13:12 UTC#82

All those "HDTV antennas" or "digital TV antennas" are a gimmick marketing trick. There's no difference between those and you're old regular "analog antennas" from the 70's. They'll all receive the same signals. Some may receive that signal much better though. Do some thorough reviewing to see which one is going to work best before buying.

 

You contradict yourself there mate, but also what you're saying is plain wrong. Digital is digital, analogue is analogue: big difference.

Posted May 05, 2009 · 13:40 UTC#83

I have that in my car, works fine for me

 

Im did dual antennas my self because analog when you can watch it on a weak signal, digital signal is all or nothing

 

Here is my digital tv tuner, but it came with a non-amplified antenna

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0301528484

 

I order this ground loop insulator to stop engine noise

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0327613134

 

I ordered 2 amplified antennas, ill put one in the front window and one in the back window

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0328735328

 

I ordered this to connect 2 antennas in one connection

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 2759.l1259

 

This TV tuner and antenna I saw on amazon looks like could work in this setup. Any thoughts on that?

http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Digital-Atsc ... pd_sbs_e_5

Posted May 05, 2009 · 14:09 UTC#84

The one i use remembers the channels and other settings when power is turned off

 

Here is my digital tv tuner, but it came with a non-amplified antenna

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0301528484

 

I order this ground loop insulator to stop engine noise

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0327613134

 

I ordered 2 amplified antennas, ill put one in the front window and one in the back window

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0328735328

 

I ordered this to connect 2 antennas in one connection

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 2759.l1259

 

ok, so here is the deal, i purchased the RCA digital converter from Walmart and got a 20 dollar antenna fron Target and ran the converter through a power inverter for the time being. it all works great, im a decent distance out of Houston, Tx and still get 25 channels. While moving the channels are a bit glitchy, but i think that has to do with the cheap antenna i purchased...going back today to exchange it for a better model and will hopefully get better reception.

 

The quality of the picture is perfect, looks just like my Direct TV in my house.

 

All thats left to do is run splice into my IR wire on the box and run it to my dash and hide it, im also going to splice my inverter to an accessory line so itll only come on when the truck is running. Ill post some pictures along the way just to give an idea of what im doing here in case you guys are curious at all.

 

Just make sure that the box doesn't lose the stored channels when you take away power. It would be a pain to have to scan for channels every time you get in the truck. Definitely post pics/video if you can do that, I'm tempted to do this... if there was a tv tuner that had a built in dvd player I'd be all over it.

Posted May 05, 2009 · 14:11 UTC#85

I have that in my car

 

Here is my digital tv tuner, but it came with a non-amplified antenna

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0301528484

 

I order this ground loop insulator to stop engine noise

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0327613134

 

I ordered 2 amplified antennas, ill put one in the front window and one in the back window

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0328735328

 

I ordered this to connect 2 antennas in one connection

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 2759.l1259

 

This TV tuner and antenna I saw on amazon looks like could work in this setup. Any thoughts on that?

http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-Digital-Atsc ... pd_sbs_e_5

 

bump...I'd like to know more about this too. Looks very tempting. I'm curious if it has a better "moving" reception than the homemade DTV boxes.

Posted May 05, 2009 · 14:19 UTC#86

All you do is just hook up the rca's from the annenta to the out2 source?

Posted May 05, 2009 · 14:33 UTC#87

Nope not the one i have, it remembers my channels when power is turned off

 

Here is my digital tv tuner, but it came with a non-amplified antenna

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0301528484

 

I order this ground loop insulator to stop engine noise

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0327613134

 

I ordered 2 amplified antennas, ill put one in the front window and one in the back window

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0328735328

 

I ordered this to connect 2 antennas in one connection

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 2759.l1259

 

so, do you have to do a new channel scan everytime you start the car?
Posted May 05, 2009 · 16:00 UTC#88

I never thought of putting the antenna under the headliner, is this for digital tvs? ill put mine under it and see if the signal is better while moving

 

Here is my digital tv tuner, but it came with a non-amplified antenna

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0301528484

 

I order this ground loop insulator to stop engine noise

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0327613134

 

I ordered 2 amplified antennas, ill put one in the front window and one in the back window

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0328735328

 

I ordered this to connect 2 antennas in one connection

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 2759.l1259

 

I used to have TV in my old truck, the unit came with 2 window wire antennas. (they stuck along the side of the windows). BUT they got MUCH better reception when mounted to the metal roof of the car in the headliner area. MOST antenna do better if mounted to metal objects b/c of the "ground plane" that it creates. The normal radio antenna should NOT be used b/c its not tuned to the feq. that TV need (its not just an impedance issue, having the antenna the right length so thats it picks up the channels wave at the right point is important) and will get bad reception. The Bigger is always better thing does not always apply to antenna's, unless its tuned, antenna should always be at 1/4 intervals in the wavelength. so a feq that has a 2 meter wavelength would have antennas at .5meters, 1meters 1.5 meter or 2 meters long to get best reception (and transmission in 2 way radios). This also include the antenna wires, Thats why when you install some car audio parts that require you extend your radio antenna wire they tell you not to cut the extension to fit b/c it will mess up the tuning.

 

edit: this all comes from being a HAM radio operator for 12years, working in a 2 way radio shop as an installer for 2 years and also being a nightclub/theatrical sound and lighting system designer/installer/tech for 15 years.

Posted May 05, 2009 · 16:24 UTC#89

Some said try putting the antenna on the car metal not the glass, between the roof and headliner to hide it, they say you will get better reception that way, ima try it later sometime

 

Here is my digital tv tuner, but it came with a non-amplified antenna

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0301528484

 

I order this ground loop insulator to stop engine noise

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0327613134

 

I ordered 2 amplified antennas, ill put one in the front window and one in the back window

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0328735328

 

I ordered this to connect 2 antennas in one connection

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 2759.l1259

 

I applied for the coupon a while back and got it about the second week in April, I 've just yet to be on and comment on it.

The converter box I got was the Artec T3AP. It does not require a power inverter. I plugged the AC adapter into the wall and used a multimeter to determine which wire was positive and which one was negative. Since the AC adapter's output was 12 volts, I figured I could rig something up. I found that the wire with the white markings on it was the ground, and the plain black was the positive. I cut the AC adapter off and spliced the plain black wire into the cigarette lighter wire, and then grounded out the white wire. Everything is working fine too! Well for the converter box anyway. I put an HD Antennae in the trunk of my car and ran the coax wire from the back of antennae down the passenger side of the car under the trim, and then to my converter box which I secured discreetly to the underside of the passenger side of the dash, under the glove box. The antennae is powered off a 12 volt AC adapter as well, so I did the same trick I did above and ran some wiring for the antennae. When the power of the antennae is turned off, the reception sucks, the powered way is definitely the road to take.

However, I still can't figure out a way to get reception while I'm driving. It works perfectly if I'm stopped at a stop sign, sitting in my driveway, or even out in the Boonies camping and trying to track the big storm. So if you're planning on only using this when you aren't moving, such as tailgating, I would definitely go for it. If you expect to be able to drive and watch TV at the same time, as of right now I would say forget about it.

If someone finds an antennae that works while moving, please let me know, otherwise I guess this is where we sit as of now. Maybe we'll have better luck after everything goes digital?

Posted May 05, 2009 · 16:30 UTC#90

All those "HDTV antennas" or "digital TV antennas" are a gimmick marketing trick. There's no difference between those and you're old regular "analog antennas" from the 70's. They'll all receive the same signals. Some may receive that signal much better though. Do some thorough reviewing to see which one is going to work best before buying.

 

You contradict yourself there mate, but also what you're saying is plain wrong. Digital is digital, analogue is analogue: big difference.

No, I didn't. I said the antennas are the same. They receive the same signals through them.. it's what's on the other end that matters, like a digital converter box or analog tuner.

Posted May 05, 2009 · 16:46 UTC#91

Erm........ that's a bit like saying a dinner plate receives the same signals.......... or your Avic GPS receives the same signals. They both do, of course, but the thing is, they won't both neccessarily work. Different types of radio/micro wave transmissions require the (same) appropriate antenna to gather the signal before it's processed by the receiver. So I still think what you said is wrong, but if I ever see a car with a dinner plate attached to it's roof, I'll have a pretty good idea who is driving :wink:

Posted May 05, 2009 · 22:15 UTC#92

I take it you haven't taken a signals and systems course before. And you still don't understand what I'm saying.

Posted May 06, 2009 · 11:40 UTC#94

Here is my digital tv tuner, but it came with a non-amplified antenna

http://www.pyleaudio.com/itemdetail.asp?model=PLTVATSC1

 

I order this ground loop insulator to stop engine noise

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... Id=2062214

 

I ordered 2 amplified antennas, ill put one in the front window and one in the back window

http://www.summitaudiocenter.com/ATSC-D ... 32827.html

 

I ordered this to connect 2 antennas in one connection

RF VHF UHF TV F-Type 1 Male 2 Female T Connector GT

 

Installing the tuner was easy, i took the red & black wire from the tuner and 2 antennas spliced them in the cigirate lighter + & - wires, and the tuner remembers the channels when power is turned off since my car cuts off accessories when the key is removed which is what i want to save the battery

Posted May 18, 2009 · 21:43 UTC#95

if you have a sprint HTC touch pro, you can video out rom your phone, either sprint TV or streamed from your home pc with orb.

 

there is a software hack that allows you ot use the plug that came with the phone, and a standard ipod type of wire.

for more info go to ppcgeeks.com and do a search.

 

I may end up doing this..

Posted May 18, 2009 · 22:13 UTC#96

MobiTV works too. No monthly fee with the activation bypass. :wink:

Posted May 18, 2009 · 22:58 UTC#97
MobiTV works too. No monthly fee with the activation bypass. :wink:

 

link it.

Posted Jun 07, 2009 · 18:28 UTC#99

so has anyone gotten this working well during travel yet(if so with what tuner and antenna setup?) or is it still limited to good reception while stopped?

Posted Jun 09, 2009 · 18:08 UTC#100

hello everybody just have a couple of questions but not really clear on the answer im looking for basically i bought the artec evrything works fine my thing is that i have a minivan with built in coaxil antenna but all i get is 6 channels now i dont know if i need a better anttena an anttena booster and witch good anttena or maybe is the location im in i live in west palm beach florida please help thanks car is apart and want to put things away thanks

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