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AVIC F90BT REBOOT FIX

By GCL915 · Jul 05, 2009in Problems/Troubleshooting💬 130 posts👁️ 95,751 views
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Posted Aug 11, 2009 · 03:40 UTC#26

I just completed all the steps mentioned and my F900BT still reboots. The radio will boot up, goes my my boot up screen and freezes with "System Startup in progress, please wait". That message stays on for about 2 minutes and the system reboots again.

 

The radio function is the only thing that works, it wont read the SD card or dvd/cd.

Posted Aug 12, 2009 · 23:09 UTC#27

Heya folks,

 

My unit refuses to stay on the "blue" screen with the options to update WinCE or format. It stays on for about 20 to 30 seconds then the screen goes black. It seems that the screen goes black as soon as the bluetooth LED starts blinking.

 

The latest TestMode from the 3.0 thread works fine. I was also able to do a full firmware update from 2.0 to 2.006. However, if I do the reset and go into the blue screen, I never have enough time to get the reset done.

 

What can I do to fix my unit so it stops it from going to the black screen? Is there anything I can do when I boot into windowsCE / testmode? I cannot find info to help me out with this and I have been reading a ton of posts.

 

Incidentally, the unit went into a permanent reboot on its own without me trying to hack the unit. The unit was totally stock. It went haywire on its own at the end of a long 12-hour roadtrip. The only thing that happened was that I had tried to update the bluetooth firmware. This had failed for me a few months back and blanked out the firmware version that was uploaded. I was living without bluetooth. Now it seems the bluetooth is the cause of the screen going black once I see the blue LED blinking, seconds later, the screen goes black.

 

Hope this info helps some folks.

 

Kyle

Posted Aug 13, 2009 · 06:53 UTC#28

I'm going to try this, as I don't know what else to do.

 

my F90BT today started doing the boot splash screen, and then black screen. Nothing, and resetting. I can't do anything. it kept going black, or powering off, or something. I tried resets, everything,

 

Upgraded to pioneer's site's 2.006 and update went fine, now it boots, NEVER leaves the splash screen, I have to manually hit Menu to get to the top menu, and NOTHING works, no radio, no ipod, nav freezes the system. AV Settings to change the language and all is the only thing I can access.

 

Any help would be great. been working fine, mod, and hack free for about 6 months til today. :(

 

I'm about to try this 2.0 fix and go back to original 2.0 like it was when new

Posted Aug 13, 2009 · 10:25 UTC#29

muah muah, your right about that. The testmode v2.3 file has a folder in it called testmode. you need to copy THAT file to the SD card that you'll be using to boot to testmode.

 

So, can anyone please explain, or help me with this. I'm having the same issue as why this thread was created, but on my normal stock, 2.0 so I upgraded to 2.006 to try n fix, no luck. keeps restarting, things don't work. only some things in menu can be clicked etc.

 

So, I did everything exactly how it was explained, added the WinCE files. When the system enters testmode and I see Windows and the start menu. I got allll exited. but then it powers down. boom. nothing. I tried it 3 times, it boots to testmode and I try to fit start, or plug in Flash with the main backup and it just shuts off. How can I get testmode to stay on? I'm using testmode v2.3 and my system went from the 2.0 firmware at stock, to Just today I tried the 2.006 to try n fix this. the testmode2.3 works with 2.006 right?

 

Any idea's would be great. Thanks!

Posted Aug 13, 2009 · 18:41 UTC#30

I got my unit working. It had bricked itself, or at least, made itself unusable. My unit was totally stock, no mods. I had to do a couple of extra things and figure out some tricks. If anyone has anyone questions, feel free to ask and I will tell you what I did to get my unit back.

 

Thanks for this great post! I am back in the tunes now because of it!!! :)

 

Kyle

Posted Aug 14, 2009 · 00:31 UTC#31

Mine is doing the same thing. I can get into testmode 2.3, but when looking into my flash disk there are no files. Can anyone who has 2.006 check there flash disk to see if they have all there files there? How would that folder emty out like that???

Posted Aug 16, 2009 · 04:41 UTC#32

Thanks!!! This post saved me big time!! I upgraded to the legit 3.0 (first disk only :x ) which seemed to go fine, next time it started up the system starting message would stay on for about 30 seconds then it would reboot over and over.

 

I tried so many half-assed reverts on my own I probably had files from every release going at the same time but this fixed it, the second time... I spent so much time messing with it the car battery died with about 5 minutes left of the final 2.0 file copy.

 

Only advice I can give with the test mode is to try both the old and new versions. One should work and I don't believe it matters how you get it in test mode just that you do.

Posted Aug 20, 2009 · 11:29 UTC#33

I am at step 9 and i cant get passed it because ever time I start it up it goes into the splash screen then in goes black for a sec than goes back to the splash screen and the goes to the windows screen for a sec then it completely go black can someone plz help.. The menu and the map buttons arent even light up plz help.. I dont know what I am doing wrong..

Posted Aug 22, 2009 · 19:33 UTC#34

hello,

 

i suppose this wil not work for the eu models i see only uk maps

Posted Aug 23, 2009 · 16:16 UTC#35

can anybody help me

 

i have followed this guide with the backup of a f900bt from europe

i have cheked my wine its 5.0

the bacup is version 1.9000

when i am finished the system boots up but underneath the system startup report stays there i can play radio but the navigation doesnt start and after 5 min the system does a reboot how can i solve this

i have seen more people have the same issue how did u solve this ?

Posted Aug 23, 2009 · 19:02 UTC#36

i fixed it i use the winceimg files from an european version and all went clear now

Posted Sep 03, 2009 · 01:14 UTC#37

How do you do step 14??? I don't know how to copy the files

Posted Sep 08, 2009 · 01:45 UTC#38
I am at step 9 and i cant get passed it because ever time I start it up it goes into the splash screen then in goes black for a sec than goes back to the splash screen and the goes to the windows screen for a sec then it completely go black can someone plz help.. The menu and the map buttons arent even light up plz help.. I dont know what I am doing wrong..

 

Well, I got to this same point and had the same result. I spent nearly an entire day trying to figure it out, but in the end I was successful. What I had to do was download the 2.006 firmware from Pioneers website under the support tab. Go to older models, find F900BT and click. Locate the update tab, then download the file.

 

http://pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Supp ... BT.Support

 

Once the file is downloaded to your computer, unzip it. Click on the folder F-series firmware update, then click on the folder LPUE080, then click on the folder PLT. You will find two files in this folder. WINCEIMG.BIN and WINCEIMG.CKS

Copy these two files onto a SD card, and when you go to the blue screen to update WINCE, these files will be used. Now, when you insert the SD card with the testmode folder and press reset, your head unit will reboot and launch the windows interface. It will remain on and allow you to continue will this aggravating process.

 

Good luck.

Posted Sep 09, 2009 · 13:16 UTC#39

I just had to do a similar reboot fix about a month and a half ago and it worked perfectly up until yesterday.

 

immediately following the previous fix that i did, i installed cmh's mod. things were fine, no problems at all.

 

now the thing constantly reboots. i have tried to get into testmode, i have tried to reinstall the 2.0 update, i have tried to update wince with the sd cards. the thing wont stay up long enough for me to get the sd card to format the unit. it'll read as far as 66% of the sd card before it goes black and shuts off. any other method that i have tried just keeps the thing rebooting every 10 seconds or so.

 

please help me.

 

i am using an f900bt.

 

does anyone have any solution for this?

 

***EDIT***

 

Alrighty. So apparently getting into the service menu by holding down MAP+MENU+EJECT isn't enough. It'll bring up the service menu and allowed me to begin navigating around to reformat, but within 30 seconds or so it'd restart. I finally re-read this thing enough to figure out that the directions tell you to also press RESET in conjunction with the 3 other buttons. That solved it. I was able to reformat in the service menu, reload 2.006 firmware, and get into Testmode using the 2.3 version so that I could follow the rest of the directions and get my unit back up and working. Thank you thank you thank you!!! 2 days without music is a terrible terrible thing.

Posted Sep 13, 2009 · 22:56 UTC#40

Hi everyone, I'm currently having a problem while on the explorer screen. I'm trying to access the storage folder to replace the files but I can not seem to open the folder. I am able to select the start option but I cant click into the control panel menu. Is there something I am doing wrong?

 

thanks,

Kevin

Posted Sep 25, 2009 · 08:43 UTC#41

you have to triple click in WIN CE in order to open folders and icons etc.

Posted Sep 30, 2009 · 08:45 UTC#42

hi, i had reboot problem too, i tried to fix, it just didn't work for me. i think i made it even worst. gps and music doesn't even work now, when i go to check the version screen, gps nav was like no version number at all. i think i deleted some fatal file or something..... so i was wondering if i bought the software update 3.0 from pioneer. will that fix my problem?

 

thanks in advance

Posted Oct 04, 2009 · 12:45 UTC#43

No the update to 3.0 did not work I bought the legit copy from Pioneer. You must have a working unit before trying update. The first sd card goes in fine but the second card will not load due to the unit must have a device id.

Posted Oct 06, 2009 · 05:48 UTC#44

Help me!

 

I am in Hungary, I have a Pioneer AVIC F900 BT. type of navigation device.

Come 2:05 version. The maps I would like to replace it, but I do not know, because I always rebootol.

The maps are the same (8.0) device.

 

What can be done to change the maps to know?

Posted Oct 07, 2009 · 11:59 UTC#45

For my F90BT the deletion of gpspar files did not fix the reboot problem. However deleting the iGO userdata while in testmode did. Below is the URL to a post in the F900bt forum that I posted on a fix that worked for me.

 

http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=22763&start=120#p192485

Posted Nov 13, 2009 · 00:27 UTC#46

I am also having trouble on step 14. How do you copy all the files?

Posted Nov 19, 2009 · 06:25 UTC#47

Hello Everyone my name is Angelo from Southern California, I was almost about to send my HU into Pioneer until I read this great tutorial. But I ran into a problem and was wondering if there was anyone out there that was kind enough to help me out?

 

I followed the tutorial to a T, all the way through step 11 where it talks about formatting and unmounting.

 

The problem is this I am not sure or need more clarification on how to Format and unmount the Flash Drive with the OEM Backup, Also I have no idea how to get the files from the flash drive to the HU. Now I clicked format flash drive through the HU and now I think my flash drive is completely unusable.

 

Now is there something I did wrong? I did format the first item in the Storage list and created a new partition called part0 but I still don't know what to do.

 

Now with out the testmode SD card inserted the unit shows the splash screen and then goes dark completely off.

 

Any help is appreciated as this is where I'm stuck at.

 

Thanks,

 

Angelo Cosma

Posted Nov 22, 2009 · 16:04 UTC#48

Hi All,

 

I've recently brought a F90BT (Pioneer refurb) off FleaBay. I've followed the instruction on the wiring hardness mod for the mute and park wire grounding. It works as it should and I've the unit running fine till this past friday when I updated the splash screen via SD memory car, per Pioneer manual's instruction. After the update, all hell broke lose. The unit will quit responding to any touch screen input. I found this thread and started the dreaded process of flashing the unit. I follow the instruction to a T, my only problem is with the screen stylus input and keyboard problem. When the testmode boot up into WinCE explorer, the stylus input will not work immediately, as such I'm not able to bring up the virtual keyboard. At times, I will have to let the unit sit for about 20 or more minutes and I might get lucky and able to bring up the keyboard. Any suggestion on how to get the stylus/keyboard working will be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks all :D

Posted Nov 22, 2009 · 21:40 UTC#49

Are you able to calibrate the touch panel while you are in test mode? This might help.

Posted Nov 22, 2009 · 22:45 UTC#50

A few things to clear up in this thread along with a problem I am having.

 

First off those people that are having trouble getting their screen to stay on for more than 20-30 seconds. You have to hold down the reset button along with the menu/map/eject button. I had a hard time with this until I tried the reset button and the screen finally stayed on.

So just so it's clean and clear:

1) Hold all buttons down (map/menu/eject + reset)

2) start car or get deck to turn on via accessory mode (2 turns of the key)

3) wait 5 seconds then release reset key

4) wait another couple seconds and release eject key

5) release menu/map keys and the blue screen should be there at this time

6) carry on doing what you want to do.

 

 

NOW for my problem, I get stuck loading the files on.

After doing these steps:

6. Insert into the unit the SD card that has WINCEIMG.bin and WINCEIMG.cks on it (STEP 2)

 

7. Select Update using SD/USB (format) option. This will format your FlashDisk removing any corrupted files on there that prevent the unit from loading.

 

8. Wait for the update to finish. When the prompt says to restart your unit, take out the SD, put in the testmode SD card and restart.

 

After selecting the update button, the bottom shows the read percentage which reaches 100%. After that nothing happens I don't get a restart prompt or anything it just keeps showing reading 100%.

 

How long does this part take? Mines been on for 15 minutes now (3rd attempt) and it's still stuck on that :evil:

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