Do you think the update added a warning if the system detects it's bypassed this way or what? I've turned the radio on 3 times tonight sitting in my garage and the warning appears everytime. I just hope it doesn't lock me over time...I'll report back if anything changes. Very odd but for now just another OK button to press I guess, hopefully...

 

Try pressing the recessed reset button to the right of the eject button. That will get rid of the parking brake message unless the second wire in connector 2 stopped being grounded, then it will come back.

Didn't even think about it for some reason but it worked, no more warning message. Must have been a fluke with this freezing cold weather. Thanks Ducati as always.

Agreed, keep this thread to the topic. Take the drama to off topic.

Ducati - Did the reset twice and after about 2 minutes the warning came up again both times. My unit however is always bypassed and is never locked. After an hour of driving this morning still bypassed but still received the warning...

Agreed, keep this thread to the topic. Take the drama to off topic.

 

Ducati - Did the reset twice and after about 2 minutes the warning came up again both times. My unit however is always bypassed and is never locked. After an hour of driving this morning still bypassed but still received the warning...

How many miles are on this Z1? If this is a new Z1 (not many miles on it) I would imagine that the unit wouldn't be bypassed any more once it learns about it's motion. It should start locking you out of stuff after you are moving.

That doesn't make too much sense. I would think that your connector 2 wire has wiggled out or is not making good grounding contact.

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I drove about 10 miles at 45mph this morning with a DVD playing (I didn't watch it or pay attention to it, it's honestly something I never do). But I wanted to make sure that the 2 wire ground was working and wouldn't pop up the parking brake message.

It did not pop up that message. It looks as if my old March 06 Z1 with the update disk DID kill the flash bypass (so out comes serial #1 of my circuit ). Bypassing the Z1 like I described in the 07/06 bypass DID work. At least for the 10 miles so far. I have a ton of miles under the belt of the Z1 and it seems to have all functionality.

If you guys get to 99% and get the error, I would recommend taking the ISO you download and try extracting the files to a directory and burning a cd with those files. It worked for me. I didn't try this, but I would bet if you got a failed disk, then ejected that disk and put in a new disk with out an error, it would pick up and work and not need to have the hard drive restored. I did the hard drive restore cause I had the ability to.

cntrylvr79, congrats on the 1000 club! Thanks for all the help you do around here. You are very appreciated.

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...cntrylvr79, congrats on the 1000 club! Thanks for all the help you do around here. You are very appreciated.

No sir thank you. There you are at it again finding a way to get around pioneer's extreme need to screw over z1 owners. Ya know I find it interesting that pioneer screens are the hardest to get around the video lockouts.

Agreed, keep this thread to the topic. Take the drama to off topic.

 

Ducati - Did the reset twice and after about 2 minutes the warning came up again both times. My unit however is always bypassed and is never locked. After an hour of driving this morning still bypassed but still received the warning...

 

How many miles are on this Z1? If this is a new Z1 (not many miles on it) I would imagine that the unit wouldn't be bypassed any more once it learns about it's motion. It should start locking you out of stuff after you are moving.

 

That doesn't make too much sense. I would think that your connector 2 wire has wiggled out or is not making good grounding contact.

Plenty of miles, about 4,000 and this is the first time it happened. No it sure doesn't make sense...I'll check the wires but you'd think it would or wouldn't lock out. The warning pops up but never locks...This isn't the first strange thing with this unit...

If you didn't notice, I pulled out the bickering about the ILL wire, lets keep it to bluetooth fix info in here please.

CHemi, very weird about the pop up message and the no lockouts. That doesn't happen with mine, but I only have about 20 miles on mine since the update. I would check the wires, the connector 2 one specifically.

I ordered my disc from Pioneer. It took some time on the phone. Everyone I spoke to new exactly what I was after but they weren’t the department to send it to me. So after being transferred around a few times I ended up getting the disc sent to me from the parts department.

One of the people I spoke to said the only thing this firmware upgrade is meant to fix is the echoing of the Bluetooth.

I should have mine in a week as it is being sent UPS ground. This was free. If you call Pioneer for the disc, you have to emphasis to the parts person that this is the firmware update not the map update for the AVIC Z1

I'm very interested in installing the new bluetooth fix, but been waiting to see how the testing shakes out. I have a March 6th unit also, but don't have the bybass installed. Using the lights flash when I want to bybass. Do you see any problem with this still working OK after the bluetooth fix installed.

I'm very interested in installing the new bluetooth fix, but been waiting to see how the testing shakes out. I have a March 6th unit also, but don't have the bybass installed. Using the lights flash when I want to bybass. Do you see any problem with this still working OK after the bluetooth fix installed.

If you apply the firmware fix then you will not be able to flash your lights and bypass the lock out.

You will need to ground the two wires to bypass the lockout. There are easy to find instructions posted.

Has anyone noticed an improvement in the echo problem after performing the bluetooth update? I also wonder if installing a small noice cancellation microphone instead of the oem pioneer one would eliminate the echo problem.

Has anyone noticed an improvement in the echo problem after performing the bluetooth update? I also wonder if installing a small noice cancellation microphone instead of the oem pioneer one would eliminate the echo problem.

Have you read any posts??

Absolutely, howarmat! I have a headache from reading some many posts. There seems to be so much off topic chit chat and bickering in this thread that I still don't have a true understanding whether or not the bluetooth upgrade is recommended or not.

So I will ask the question another way.

Is it recommended that I utilize the bluetooth upgrade disk to fix the echo problem or should I just try to use the one speaker method? The rep in the nagivation department at Pioneer act as if he didn't know there was a known problem.

Is it recommended that I utilize the bluetooth upgrade disk to fix the echo problem or should I just try to use the one speaker method? The rep in the nagivation department at Pioneer act as if he didn't know there was a known problem.

I would recommend that you first (before pairing the phone) decrease the volume as low as possible and then pair the phone. If it's already paired, do a level 3 reset. Then pair it. Try different speakers for echo.

While the CD update does help, I don't know if it's any better than just lowered the volume before pairing (it probably is, but I don't know if it's a lot).

If neither of those fixes it to your satisfaction then try the update cd.

That would be my recommendation.

Thanks, ducatiboy! You gave a straight forward answer as always! I'm scheduled for my install on Wed. I'm going to use your bypass as well. Hopefully the installer doesn't give me a hard time. I have a Cingular 650 and will try your recommendations first before fooling with upgrade disk. Hopefully, I won't need it.

Oh wow, thanks for the info ducatiboy. I thought lowering the volume before pairing was something that helped with the new firmware, not all firmwares...now to whip out the manual and get the level 3 reset instructions! Thats something else Pioneer should fix, the ability to delete phones WITHOUT resetting the unit.

Oh wow, thanks for the info ducatiboy. I thought lowering the volume before pairing was something that helped with the new firmware, not all firmwares...now to whip out the manual and get the level 3 reset instructions! Thats something else Pioneer should fix, the ability to delete phones WITHOUT resetting the unit.

Oh no, it helps with all firmwares (at least it is supposed to). That is the rumor that the fix is, it lowers the volume on already recorded phones. I don't know if that's true, but it's a rumor.

Turn on the unit, when you see the boot screen, press and hold MAP. It will pop up a screen, press RESET. It will wipe out phones, but surprisingly little else, you will keep your address book, phone book, recent destinations, recorded music. I didn't notice too much it "lost". But check the manual for what it loses to make sure I'm not missing something important to you.

Great, thanks for the info, apreciate it. Just to make sure I understand your earlier post correctly wipe the phones with level 3, turn the volume down for the phone option ON THE Z1 (not the phone itself) and repair, then raise the volume as needed.

Great, thanks for the info, apreciate it. Just to make sure I understand your earlier post correctly wipe the phones with level 3, turn the volume down for the phone option ON THE Z1 (not the phone itself) and repair, then raise the volume as needed.

No make a cell phone call with the Z1 off (just using the cell phone itself), while on the phone talking to the other party, turn the volume on the cell phone all the way down (as low as possible). Hang up the phone. Then turn on the Z1 and pair the phone. Once paired you can turn up your headset volume on the phone. But for some reason the volume of the ear piece when pairing seems to make a difference with the old firmware (at least it did for me). Doesn't seem to matter with the new update CD.

I just had the Z1 installed in my H2: Bluetooth, XMradio, XMnavTraffic, Backup Camera. Did not know that there was a bluetooth problem. Everything works perfect including bluetooth with my Samsung BlackJack.

Also, they did a bypass that was software based, everything is bypassed but all wires are installed per installation manual.

I just had the Z1 installed in my H2: Bluetooth, XMradio, XMnavTraffic, Backup Camera. Did not know that there was a bluetooth problem. Everything works perfect including bluetooth with my Samsung BlackJack.

 

Also, they did a bypass that was software based, everything is bypassed but all wires are installed per installation manual.

Ahopp, that's interesting! I didn't know that there was a software based bypass. Please explain this new revelation. I'm sure Duccatiboy would enjoy hearing this.

Also, they did a bypass that was software based, everything is bypassed but all wires are installed per installation manual.

Normally I would have found this hard to believe, but the way the bypass works is obviously on the hard drive because I believe the update cd is just modifying the hard drive. And it changed my bypass method.

How do you know you have a software update? When was your Z1 made? Are you positive that they just didnt ground 2 wires? If you go into the connection status and put the parking brake on and off, does the status change?

Not that it isn't possible, but no one has heard of this yet.

The way the technicial explained it was that there is a factory testing mode that allows everything to be hooked up and working corectly but fully bypassed.

I have tested everything including watching DVDs and setting destinations while in motion. I have also confirmed that the vehicle dynamics are all working properly.

Also, the unit was installed on Friday(the 8th of December, 2006)

The technician did not say that I was running an update, he did say that I was running the most current code/version.

Not that I don't believe you. But technician say a lot of things. A lot of times they "dumb down" what they say so people are happy with whatever quick explanation they give (even if the party they are speaking to could understand exactly what is happening). I have gotten emails from people over the last 9 months or so and some of the things technicians have said have been really wild.

Did the installer give you the box the unit came in? Or the warranty sticker? There is a manufacture date on both of those as well as on the unit itself (which you now can't see since it's installed). It doesn't matter when it was installed, but I would guess you have a newer one. If you can find a card or the box it came in with the manufacture date on it, it would narrow down what I am thinking about.

Can you do me a favor? Hit

MENU - SETTINGS (tab) - HARDWARE - CONNECTION STATUS

Look at the parking brake line. Note the state it's in, engage and disengage the parking brake over and over. Does that state change? Does it go on and off with the parking brake? If not, what state is it always in?

Not that I'm trying to be a pain, but if there is another way to bypass this without messing with wires, I'm sure a TON of people would be VERY happy.