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Stay away from the CMOS cams if you want a good picture.

Hey howcome my quotes dont work?

Anyhow:

Is'nt the Pioneer Camera CMOS ? Or is it CCD?

This is one of those "debates" that goes on in all technologies. Have a look at this accessment: http://www.dalsa.com/corp/markets/ccd_vs_cmos.aspx

It seems to be a fairly unbiased view of the 2 technologies.

As always there are pros and cons to all technology options and I am guessing it wont be the image technology that determines the quality of image but rather the quality of the implementation of it. In that case it's usually the cheapest source that results in the cheapest low quality product which is why your accessment is probably spot on. But that still doesn't mean you can't score a good CMOS camera that has been well built and agressively priced. Conversly I'm sure it doesn't mean you can't score some old CCD camera that costs a lot and is comparitively crud.

Based on Pioneer's record on product relaibility recently I wouldn't be spending $200 for a "quality" camera that lasts 12 months. Sorry 13 months.

I'd be interested in other peoples experiences of cheapie ePay cameras.

It's the ability to handle vibrations that probably has CMOS behind CCD in this area but then again I'm not about to mount it on the tail pipe.

As it is I'ts not something I've got my heart set on but if I can score a good quality camera CCD or CMOS at a "that'll do" price then I'm in.

Anyone had experience with these from HK: (776 Waterproof Camera)

http://stores.shop.ebay.com.au/Eonon__W0QQ_armrsZ1

Thanks for the replies

Gertsy

As I posted in other threads, Boyo makes some great license plate frame cameras. CCD with night vision. Others on here will agree.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BOYO-VTL300C-Lic ... 595wt_1165

I've actually done a little research on backup cams and went with and found an older discontinued Panasonic CCD cam on eBay: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-Audio-C ... B000RIX0JI

From what I've read, the cheaper CMOS cameras will experience sensor deterioration if there is a constant voltage applied to them, this does not apply to CCD cameras. Therefore the wiring instructions posted by "kruff10" are probably preferable when installing a CMOS camera and certainly not "half-assed".

so if i am looking for a used camera what do i need to look for, for it to be compatible?

Are there any differences between the VTL300 and the VTL400 other then the look/type of camera mount? IS the actual camera the same?

All BOYOs use the same camera.

Just got my BOYO VTL300c.

Quick question:

There are 3 cables, red, black, and Yellow. The black can go to any ground, and the red goes to the 12v power? Yellow goes to the obvious.

Just wanted to clarify before running the cable throughout my truck.

Thanks!

I was impatient and started doing this anyways.

Got the cable ran, connected the red wire to the 12V + and the black to a ground and the yellow video (from the cam) to the brown rear view plug on the avic. Im not getting any video though... in either situation (when actually putting it in reverse, or going to source and pressing REAR VIEW). It does go to the rear view cam when in reverse, but all black... what am I missing?

Sounds like either you have the battery polarity reversed in the camera settings on the unit or you have a bad power or ground or a bad video signal from the video wire on the camera. Troubleshoot your install.

Sounds like either you have the battery polarity reversed in the camera settings on the unit or you have a bad power or ground or a bad video signal from the video wire on the camera. Troubleshoot your install.

I changed the polarity settings back and forth and that didnt help, not even sure what it does.

So since the unit was already installed I had to cut into the 12v + and splice the power into it with a wire nut. I did notice that the actual wire that came with the cam is very thin so it might not be making a good connection. Im going to solder them just to see if that makes a better connection. Could the wire nut be the issue?

Could the wire nut be the issue?

Yes. And you never use wire nuts for anything in a car. Thats just asking for trouble.

Wasnt the wire nuts.

Apparently you cant ground the ground to plastic....

It was dark when I was doing this, one side was metal, the other was plastic. I grounded it somewhere else and voila. It works while the car is in motion too! Whats the difference between the polarity's? I hope I dont have to take this deck out again... its such a pain having to get the cables back in.

Thanks again for all your help.

Your going to have a lot more problems then that using wire nuts. Honestly you would probably be better off using chewing gum.

If you want to be able to view the camera while driving do not install per the suggestions above. The advice above is the half assed approach most installers take to cut a corner but is not the proper way to wire a reverse camera. If you want full capabilities, you need to wire the power wire of the cam to the switched 12 volt +, the ground wire to any ground, and the reverse wire from the head unit to the reverse circuit on the car, and the RCA video cable from the cam into the rcam input on the rear of the unit. This will give you reverse cam and rear view while you are driving.

Hadn't thought about powering the cam all the time.. do these have duty cycles, or lifetimes we need to worry about?

Sam

I have had mine going for three plus years without problem.

Wasnt the wire nuts.

 

Apparently you cant ground the ground to plastic....

 

It was dark when I was doing this, one side was metal, the other was plastic. I grounded it somewhere else and voila. It works while the car is in motion too! Whats the difference between the polarity's? I hope I dont have to take this deck out again... its such a pain having to get the cables back in.

 

Thanks again for all your help.

did you ever decide what the difference in polarity was? which did you set it to - battery or GND, essentially, is the polarity positive or negative while in reverse, and how would we know anyway?