So I received my x920bt yesterday and put it in.

My old unit was a f900bt with the 3.0 update

To sum it up im very happy with the improvements, they really took their time with this unit and the polish shows.

So far the pros with new unit:

Very responsive and fast

Works great with steering wheel controls PAC SWI ps

Much simpler cabling (optional usb cable, not hard attached) Only need a/v cables for bypass with the mute wire, in other words the ipod cable is seperate usb connection in the back, no rca connection for ipod)

Improved voice recognition

Ability to enter addresses by voice

IPod cataloging takes seconds

Active call bluetooth menu doesn't lock down the unit, you can push close.

Boot up time is 15 seconds!

Improved voice guidance

More detailed turn by turns directions (big screen comes up comign up to a turn that makes it a no brainer where they want you to go, even when its very complicated.

Radio information like radio station name shows up with normal fm.

mp3 dvd works wonderful.

The new screen layout is great, it shows so much more information without that dumb ipod wheel crap.

The transition effects is cool

Brought back the connection status information (shows gps status, pulse cable, parking brake, lllumination etc.)

defaults to ipod for av1 input, so no more select ipod in av menu crap)

selecting

I love the new button layout, no more stupid push button/wheel that barely worked,

having a dedicated voice control button is nice. Makes it a lot easier to use instead of the ok lets focus and push the button wheel im used to.

Now for the cons, so far:

User interface is so far pretty confusing a lot of things are tiny icons hidden around the screen in the ipod, going to playstlists etc. It is a 180 from the f900bt with igo. Guess you just have to get used to it

clock is in the upper right corner, and so far I haven't found how to change from real time in top, but when you touch you can vary time to destination, time of arrival etc.

I can't get pandora to work yet. I have an iphone 3gs with pandora, I followed instructions, information just doesn't get pushed into the unit. Its a blank screen with areas where the information should populate.

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I simply grounded the parking break, without the mute wire change, so its giving me errors parking brake not set correctly. So ill have to do that it also knows when your moving so when you stop it all goes active. I wasn't sure how to bypass when I isntalled but it seems to be the same for z110bt

Overall it was a good upgrade. It will take some getting used to, but so far, except for the pandroa thing which im sure I will figure out, its great.

Essential I would say this is a cut down z series in a X/F chassis.

I am assuming no mods like with the x and f series prior. This is def not windows ce or igo. Explains the change in nav style, fast boot up time etc.

A few notes:

Cabling is completely different from X and F series units. It is the same as Z110bt.

GPS connection is IDENTICAL to F/S series so no need to swap that out

MIC connection is the same as well, but im going with the new mic.

You have to get a micro sd card, no more regular SD.

YOu HAVE TO use the special ipod cable (cd-iu50v) or whatever. This is not that simple apple composite cable. I have no idea if its proprietary or not, but i've never seen anything like it before. You will NOT get any sound if you simple use the regualr apple dock/usb connection cable for your computer or forget to plug the jack cable in. Good thing best buy had them, I forget to order it with the unit, didn't think I really needed it based on reviews out there for this cable, and other units that use it.

I will post a youtube video this week end, maybe sunday. I would say it was worth it, if your goign from an older unit, its a nice upgrade with lots of features for 2010. No show stopper bugs, unless the pandora thing doesnt pan out im going to be a bit upset.

Interesting. Any idea who makes the Navi software? Pioneer's homegrown or some known brand?

There is another app that you need in order for Pandora to work as a source. Yes you already have the Pandora app but you need the Pandora Link app. It's still a free app as far as I know but I don't know if it's available yet.

Ah yeah that makes more sense. The iphone was yelling at me, your phone needs some other application do you want to download it now from the app store, but it never showed up.

Fun stuff.

How would you rate this unit against Z110BT! Better, Equivlant, or still Inferior?

So I received my x920bt yesterday and put it in.

 

My old unit was a f900bt with the 3.0 update

 

To sum it up im very happy with the improvements, they really took their time with this unit and the polish shows.

 

So far the pros with new unit:

 

Very responsive and fast

Works great with steering wheel controls PAC SWI ps

Much simpler cabling (optional usb cable, not hard attached) Only need a/v cables for bypass with the mute wire, in other words the ipod cable is seperate usb connection in the back, no rca connection for ipod)

Improved voice recognition

Ability to enter addresses by voice

IPod cataloging takes seconds

Active call bluetooth menu doesn't lock down the unit, you can push close.

Boot up time is 15 seconds!

Improved voice guidance

More detailed turn by turns directions (big screen comes up comign up to a turn that makes it a no brainer where they want you to go, even when its very complicated.

Radio information like radio station name shows up with normal fm.

mp3 dvd works wonderful.

The new screen layout is great, it shows so much more information without that dumb ipod wheel crap.

The transition effects is cool

Brought back the connection status information (shows gps status, pulse cable, parking brake, lllumination etc.)

defaults to ipod for av1 input, so no more select ipod in av menu crap)

selecting

 

I love the new button layout, no more stupid push button/wheel that barely worked,

having a dedicated voice control button is nice. Makes it a lot easier to use instead of the ok lets focus and push the button wheel im used to.

 

 

Now for the cons, so far:

 

User interface is so far pretty confusing a lot of things are tiny icons hidden around the screen in the ipod, going to playstlists etc. It is a 180 from the f900bt with igo. Guess you just have to get used to it

clock is in the upper right corner, and so far I haven't found how to change from real time in top, but when you touch you can vary time to destination, time of arrival etc.

I can't get pandora to work yet. I have an iphone 3gs with pandora, I followed instructions, information just doesn't get pushed into the unit. Its a blank screen with areas where the information should populate.

----------------

 

I simply grounded the parking break, without the mute wire change, so its giving me errors parking brake not set correctly. So ill have to do that it also knows when your moving so when you stop it all goes active. I wasn't sure how to bypass when I isntalled but it seems to be the same for z110bt

 

Overall it was a good upgrade. It will take some getting used to, but so far, except for the pandroa thing which im sure I will figure out, its great.

 

Essential I would say this is a cut down z series in a X/F chassis.

 

I am assuming no mods like with the x and f series prior. This is def not windows ce or igo. Explains the change in nav style, fast boot up time etc.

 

 

 

A few notes:

 

Cabling is completely different from X and F series units. It is the same as Z110bt.

GPS connection is IDENTICAL to F/S series so no need to swap that out

MIC connection is the same as well, but im going with the new mic.

You have to get a micro sd card, no more regular SD.

 

YOu HAVE TO use the special ipod cable iu50 or whatever. This is not that simple apple composite cable. I have no idea if its proprietary or not, but i've never seen anything like it before. You will NOT get any sound if you simple use the regualr apple dock/usb connection cable for your computer or forget to plug the jack cable in. Good thing best buy had them, I forget to order it with the unit, didn't think I really needed it based on reviews out there for this cable, and other units that use it.

 

I will post a youtube video this week end, maybe sunday. I would say it was worth it, if your goign from an older unit, its a nice upgrade with lots of features for 2010. No show stopper bugs, unless the pandora thing doesnt pan out im going to be a bit upset.

No clue comparing toz110 never. Owned or seen one. But this unit is great no complaints. Just waiting on pandora.

It is the same unit as the Z110BT except for the new AV UI additions. Or you could say it is exactly the same as the yet unreleased Z120BT which will be an upgrade for the 110 once it is released. So for now, sense it has features the 110 doesn't have, (even though the biggest one doesn't work yet) some might say this unit is better. However this is not an answer anyone can answer but you. A 110 with the 120 upgrade will be the best unit on paper.

Interesting. Any idea who makes the Navi software? Pioneer's homegrown or some known brand?

Its the same as the 110 so it is assumed it is Pioneers home grown. These units run Windows Automotive not the CE of the F/X series. The navi software in the Z is the biggest reason why I went back to the X series with iGo. Much more complete navi software then with the software in the Z or newer X series. And once you integrate the mods it just goes without saying.

Its the same as the 110 so it is assumed it is Pioneers home grown. These units run Windows Automotive not the CE of the F/X series. The navi software in the Z is the biggest reason why I went back to the X series with iGo. Much more complete navi software then with the software in the Z or newer X series. And once you integrate the mods it just goes without saying.

Thanks. What I thought... Although it is too bad that we don't get software and Navis they have in Japan and Korea...

I've been waiting for this unit. I started out wanting an P3200bt them made it up to the Z110BT. For some reason I like the button placement on the 3200 and the 920. Hope this turns out to be good and I can find one for a good price. I see what pioneers msrp is. Can you tip us off on a ballpark as to what you paid?

I paid 950 with overnight shipping. But this is day 1 release without all the competition. It's already at 875. So j guess 924 is what I paid. Prob should of waited bur I was planning on getting this when announces in Jan at ces.

I paid 950 with overnight shipping. But this is day 1 release without all the competition. It's already at 875. So j guess 924 is what I paid. Prob should of waited bur I was planning on getting this when announces in Jan at ces.

Well I was planning on spending that on a 110 so that's not bad in my book. I'm guessing no rebate right?

get it off ebay with bing casbhack and ebay bucks it will be around $740.00 shipped

get it off ebay with bing casbhack and ebay bucks it will be around $740.00 shipped

Pioneer warranty?

Nothing on ebay has warranty.

Yeah, so just to update my thoughts, I had issues where VR didn't work at all with my iphone 3gs. I restored my iphone and that fixed it. Guess the VR database was corrupted.

The one annoying thing so far is pandora not working guess the software isn't out yet AND no sphere software pc program yet.

Guess that's what you get for being a day 1 adopter eh? Shame on me, guess I didn't learn with the whole f series fiasco. BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Have you called Pio on that yet. My guess is they will have no clue but it is worth a try.

The thing that is really frustrating is in the user manual it says very simply on page 126 of operations manual

1.Display av screen

2. connect ipod

3. start up pandora on ipod, which is already a huge mistype since ipod won't run pandora without wifi, and i doubt you will have that driving in your car. Iphone seems a better fit

4. tap pandora on left side of screen to display pandora screen

5. use touch panel on screen to control pandora.

Thats it, no mention of a specific "iphone pandora link app for pioneer" Just have latest version of pandora app installed, 3.0 iphone or higher, ipod control cable.

Here is some great english for you taking from page 126 of operations manual : "You can play the pandora by connecting your ipod which was installed the pandora application."

Wow, call me crazy but im assuming whoever wrote that didn't speak english or not very well. Shows their attention to detail. Which is pretty relaxed. I assume no one proof read it?

I wonder if they forgot a few steps or apps or if something is wrong with my setup. No one owns this thing yet to know!

3. start up pandora on ipod, which is already a huge mistype since ipod won't run pandora without wifi, and i doubt you will have that driving in your car.

Wait! Your in Canada? That may be your problem right there. Pandora works just fine over 3G in the US but my understanding is it is not even suppose to work in Canada at all. I am now wondering if this is a Canadian issue with your unit. Otherwise, you should have Pandora working over 3G without problem. This whole thing with Pandora link with these units would have been stupid if Pandora was limited to wifi only as this is a mobile environment.

Just ordered mine from Crutchfield. I know I could have gotten it cheaper elsewhere, but keeping the warranty was important to me along with the harnesses/dash kit. Can't wait to install this weekend.

Only way Pandora will work in Canada is if you can hide the location from them. I have accomplished it on my home computers with tunneling through a VPN server basically. I have tried it on my iPod Touch while at home but can't get the app to open at all. That is when I can get the VPN to connect at all that is. It was finicky when I first installed it but it just won't connect at all now unfortunately.

still deciding if i want to return my z110t and get the x920 since they are the same price blah

Just posted on Facebook from Pioneer North America:

Pioneer Electronics (North America) wants to give a heads up to those who have already purchased the new AVIC-X920BT: The PC version of Musicsphere and PandoraLink iPhone app will be available on our website very soon. Thank you for your support and patience.

still deciding if i want to return my z110t and get the x920 since they are the same price blah

I wouldn't do that. You have the better of the two units and when the 120 upgrade is released you will have the same software as the 920.

oh well then nevermind i just wanted the neat features that come with the x920. but if i get them with an update then ill be good to go.

Thanks for the heads up.