Hey guys, first post but I've been watching this like a hawk. If I understand correctly, Pioneer generates a unique password based on the serial number of the headunit you provide? Would it be possible to get a few SN/PW combos - if so I/others could start attempting to crack the hash? That way, with the torrent in hand, you could generate your own pw.

This is a good idea.

Not only do u require the serial number of the radio, u also need to input a unique code that comes with the SD cards.

Getting a hold of this number is a bit hard.

Just contributing some information that I stumbled on while poking around:

The header of the NDATA.001 file is "MSWIN4.1". Upone further investigation, this appears to be a boot record of sorts. http://thestarman.pcministry.com/asm/mbr/MSWIN41.htm

According to Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXE, we're dealing with 16 bit DOS executables.

Not that this will help in the cracking process, but I stumbled on it anyway: The .rff and .image files are created with an application called "NaviStudio" http://cloudmade.com/products/navi-studio. May help to mod in the future (?).

CARDINFO.cif contains what appears to be either random (unlikely) or some sort of alpha numeric hash or encryption of data. It reads #pioneer[hash] and that's it. If we can get the code for the sdcard this was taken from, that might provide some clue.

It might be a good route to contact one of the forums that specialize in cracking these types of hashes and security setups. But like was previously mentioned, we'll likely need many samples of the hash with original data in order to get that cracked.

So before these files became available there were about three people on this forum, all noobs if I remember correctly, that swore they could crack this once the files were available. So where are these people now? now we have a new line of people that are beginning to ask the same question over again. "Are these files cracked"? So after all it really doesn't look like this is going to happen now is it.

Just contributing some information that I stumbled on while poking around:

 

The header of the NDATA.001 file is "MSWIN4.1". Upone further investigation, this appears to be a boot record of sorts. http://thestarman.pcministry.com/asm/mbr/MSWIN41.htm

 

According to Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXE, we're dealing with 16 bit DOS executables.

 

Not that this will help in the cracking process, but I stumbled on it anyway: The .rff and .image files are created with an application called "NaviStudio" http://cloudmade.com/products/navi-studio. May help to mod in the future (?).

 

CARDINFO.cif contains what appears to be either random (unlikely) or some sort of alpha numeric hash or encryption of data. It reads #pioneer[hash] and that's it. If we can get the code for the sdcard this was taken from, that might provide some clue.

 

It might be a good route to contact one of the forums that specialize in cracking these types of hashes and security setups. But like was previously mentioned, we'll likely need many samples of the hash with original data in order to get that cracked.

I actually installed a copy of NaviStudio a month or two ago but it was all in Japanese, and you could only create content for the Japan version of the Z series. I don't know if there is a version in English that we could use; if there is I've never seen it.

I started the download, but there are no seeders. Go figure.

I'd be more than happy to pitch in a few bucks if it'll help get the ball rolling on a crack. Have you guys let this be known in other sections of this sub-forum? If not, I suggest you advertise this news. Otherwise, we'll only have about 8 people in the know.

Thanks for the up, however useless it may be at this point.

What does this update will do, is it only for the map GPS features?

What does this update will do, is it only for the map GPS features?

updates the 110bt to 120bt interface and updated maps

I started the download, but there are no seeders. Go figure.

Go figure, indeed: everyone bitches about there being no seeders but then when the files are done downloading, they don't seed it.

I was downloading at 1.2mb/sec. And now seeding

so you have updated it and it shows the same interface as the 120?

Will that erase the current settings on our 110?

U cannot install this right now since there's not a crack yet, so no need to worry about the settings changing or not.

U cannot install this right now since there's not a crack yet, so no need to worry about the settings changing or not.

Well you CAN install it but you need all the proper codes and everything from Pioneer.

It looks like I won't be able to installed it without

a password from pioneer. How do I get one or a hacked password?

Any advice or steps will be great.

It looks like I won't be able to installed it without

a password from pioneer. How do I get one or a hacked password?

Any advice or steps will be great.

You can't right now, this torrent is for testing purposes for all the coders and programmers on the forum.

I can see now this thread is going to cause more problems then its going to solve.

If we can't install it and make it to work, how we going to test it ?

If we can't install it and make it to work, how we going to test it ?

Well, are u a coder or programmer?

If we can't install it and make it to work, how we going to test it ?

 

Well, are u a coder or programmer?

The answer is obviously no if he asks a question like that.

LOL exactly.

So you download the software first and then you get the password from the site? What I don't understand is how does it verify your password for your serial number of your unit? There is no internet connect to check it right?

Seems like if that is the case one password will work for any unit....

I have the same thought. Software is already downloaded also seeding for others. Just not sure the password thing.

So you download the software first and then you get the password from the site? What I don't understand is how does it verify your password for your serial number of your unit? There is no internet connect to check it right?

 

Seems like if that is the case one password will work for any unit....

pretty sure each radio requires a unique pw based on their serial number, Pioneer is not dumb. It doesn't need an internet connection to verify if the code is right/wrong.

Pioneer runs your headunit's serial number and the verification code they give you through an algorithmic hash, the resulting value of which is stored on their server as a check to ensure it is not re-used by someone else.

I'm probably going to get flamed for this but people are happy to spend $1000.00+ for their units yet are not prepared to spend on a good update and put their units at risk with dodgy cracked software.

I have mine ordered and quite happy to pay £150 / $200, only wish it would get here

I'm probably going to get flamed for this but people are happy to spend $1000.00+ for their units yet are not prepared to spend on a good update and put their units at risk with dodgy cracked software.

 

I have mine ordered and quite happy to pay £150 / $200, only wish it would get here

Might I remind you that the F series mods took off due to a "dodgy cracked update"? Not everything is mindless thievery you know.