Pioneer runs your headunit's serial number and the verification code they give you through an algorithmic hash, the resulting value of which is stored on their server as a check to ensure it is not re-used by someone else.

I see. So you are not downloading the software directly yourself. You are actually purchasing the SD cards with pre-installed software. Then that makes sense.

Yeah, the update cards have the software on them, you must get a verification code in order to unlock the software to work on your headunit.

Sounds like a really easy crack then actually.

Small script runs to check the serial and if serial is = to serial on software then check is ok. Proceed.

Sounds like a really easy crack then actually.

 

Small script runs to check the serial and if serial is = to serial on software then check is ok. Proceed.

That is where the difficulty comes in. Like I said before, there is a hash that Pioneer uses to generate the activation codes, we need to figure out that hash or activating on your own is a pipe dream.

Has anyone figured out a way to inject anything into this software yet? (I don't want this thread to just be about the activation process, let's get some mods going!)

What language is this app written in? Java, C#, etc

It's 16 bit, I believe they code in C++.

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im a Pioneer Authorised Dealer, and this upgrade is def worh it to any z110bt user. ill keep a look out on this thread for any updates on the crack.

PS: dealer cost on this is $89.83 so pioneer def. making good money on this..

PSS: Pioneer now has the $100 Rebate runing again till Otober 31 for the z120bt and x20bt so def. worth hoppin on this if u were going into a new unit..

So any chance you will give me dealer price for it?

im limited to one employee purchase of the same thing (its a big chain, and they track this)..lol sorry guys.. which i used for me...

I'm probably going to get flamed for this but people are happy to spend $1000.00+ for their units yet are not prepared to spend on a good update and put their units at risk with dodgy cracked software.

 

I have mine ordered and quite happy to pay £150 / $200, only wish it would get here

It's ridiculous they would charge this much for a UI update and updated maps. $50 is more like it. $200 is a complete rip off to loyal customers.

If it gets cracked it's not "dodgey". A crack would just bypass authentication. The update itself woudn't even been touched.

Oh here we go again about price.

 

It's ridiculous they would charge this much for a UI update and updated maps. $50 is more like it. $200 is a complete rip off to loyal customers.

I'm curious to know where you have found UI plus map updates (not to mention the added, highly sought after, Pandora and MusicSphere features) for $50. I sure would like to get on that bandwagon. I'll even switch brands when it's time to upgrade.

I guess until I have manufactured my own stereo and sold millions of units so that I can decide, based on manufacturing/software design costs, on my own pricing of such updates (with those added features), I will have to stick with purchasing said updates (again with added features) from the professionals at the price they decide (plus the dealer markup).

As mentioned in a previous post, assuming it's true. Pioneer only makes <$90 per unit. Ask the authorized dealer to give you a deal. They are the ones ripping you off. Though it's not really a rip off if you are willing to pay what they want to charge you. For some, it's definitely worth the $200.

just my 2 cents.

we (store) have to sell the updates at a price controlled by pioneer so that other companies can make money as well... so pioneer can sell to alot more to alot more stores..

I wonder if testmode would reveal anything? I booted into it earlier just to see if anything stood out... But not with my update SD card inserted.... Maybe when I'm not so lazy, I'll try again with the Update inserted...

It might also be worth having a laptop connected via BT and watch those FTP folders during the upgrade... Who knows... That's how the IPhone JB does their hacking(shsh).... They just wait for it to plop into a folder and grab it before it disappears...<--- could be wrong...(just tossing shit out there)

Although it seems that we already have the 3 vital pieces to decrypt it....(unit number...number that came with the update...and the number returned from Pioneers servers)

Which I'm almost positive that I had to enter 16 characters....

Sooooo...the pieces are there.... Who knows how to figure it out ?

i really don't think this will get cracked, there isnt a large enough user base for this to happen. on the other hand amazon has the update for 167. Im not going to buy it but just sayin http://www.amazon.com/PIONEER-CNSD-110FM-PIOAVICZ110BT-Navigation-Receiver/dp/B003PJ6TZS

i really don't think this will get cracked, there isnt a large enough user base for this to happen. on the other hand amazon has the update for 167. Im not going to buy it but just sayin http://www.amazon.com/PIONEER-CNSD-110FM-PIOAVICZ110BT-Navigation-Receiver/dp/B003PJ6TZS

You're probably right but it'd be fun to see if anyone finds these files useful.

Hm. $167 is a lot better than $200, but I'm still not sold on the new interface, what with not owning an iPhone and all.

Hm. $167 is a lot better than $200, but I'm still not sold on the new interface, what with not owning an iPhone and all.

I agree, friend of mine owns a stereo shop, got my at his dealer cost $150. Not a smokin deal by any stretch, but was 25% cheaper than Pioneer.

Good luck hacking an algorithm to defeat the Pioneer server. One more thing to consider..

On the media update cart it states... "DO NOT LOOSE THIS CARD. RE-CREATION OF THE MEDIA NUMBER IS NOT POSSIBLE.." Also goes on to say, the information on this card is required in the upgrade process. Also this card is necessary as the certification for repair (including recovery). When repair is required for the navigation system, the updated data cannot be restored if you fail to submit this card.

So if you have a problem with your Nav, send it back to Pioneer... guess what..... they will not load the updated software in the device.

I know it sucks.. but Pandora is pretty BAD-A$S if you ask me.

This is definitely not happening.... looks like I'll just have to save up some extra cash to buy the upgrade... Anyone bought it from Amazon yet? Do they also include the 2nd SD card for the bluetooth update?

I went with the Amazon deal plus I signed up for the Amazon credit card and got $40 off my purchase. So ended up only costing me $135 for it. That's not to bad.

I will just cancel the card after my first bill. BTW the $40 credit will not show up on the check out it will show up on your billing statement.

I went with the Amazon deal plus I signed up for the Amazon credit card and got $40 off my purchase. So ended up only costing me $135 for it. That's not to bad.

 

I will just cancel the card after my first bill. BTW the $40 credit will not show up on the check out it will show up on your billing statement.

Let me know when you get it, I want to see if they include both SD cards, one for the Navi upgrade and the other for the Bluetooth upgrade. If so, I'll do the same.

Nvm... I just took the plunge and bought it from Amazon. It's better than paying full price and I got tired of watching this thread 10 times a day hoping someone will get it to work...

Nvm... I just took the plunge and bought it from Amazon. It's better than paying full price and I got tired of watching this thread 10 times a day hoping someone will get it to work...

I hear you there. I got tired of looking at this too. I knew in my mind this thing isn't big enough to get into the scene to be cracked. I find it funny that some think it would be so hard to crack. There is DRM Authentication being cracked already.....this would be like flipping pancakes to those hackers

I dont really think anyone was insinuating that it couldn't be done. Anything can be cracked. What I and others were trying to convey is that it wouldn't happen with the relatively small niche crowd this appeals to. The people that can crack this in five minutes are tackling much bigger projects that appeal to a much bigger audience then Z110BT owners.

For the folks that were wondering, I purchased the upgrade through Amazon from the Price Pros and it came with two cards. I haven't did the upgrade yet though.