i have a pioneer-avh3200bt that has a bypass to watch movies while i drive.

i installed the navi add on yesterday and realized that when the navi started with the car it reactivated the brake sensor, disabling the ability to watch movies while the car was moving. so i had to make another bypass switch.

I noticed that if i started the car with the navi unplugged and then plugged it in, I could watch movies and have my navi features while the car was moving. so i made a on and off switch for my navi unit.

now it works like a charm! {thumbup}

I believe I have found a solution for the add on u220 using the same bypass as the DVD. I spent hours on it this past weekend and tried EVERYTHING. The issue is not the grounds from the unit. The bypass is already setup to ground itself. The problem is powering up. As I was trying every possible combination wiring wise on my harness, I started to think a different route. So I unplugged the Navi and the bypass worked fine. I left the bluetooth in and it still worked fine. So obviously the Navi was canceling the bypass somehow. What I began to think about was that since the add on modules have there own power and grounds, that they must power themselves up and send the signal to the head unit. So because the u220 must power up before/with the unit, then the error message appears because of the u220 being that it isnt bypassed after the unit turns on (same as the DVD). So my solution to that was to use the same concept as the DVD and wire the battery wire from the u220 with the remote wire of the head unit to the relay pin. Keep in mind I made my own relay out of a Bosch 12v relay (or similar). Since I have done that, everything works like a charm and as it should. No more error messages and and abnormal noises. As far as the grounds, I just tied them in with the other grounds.

Recap: Yellow Battery pinned with Remote Wire on homemade relay. Ground normally (via harness or chassis). The relays you buy on Ebay and such wont work because they are made for a finished look and I have yet to cut into one and see how they wire it together. But this concept will work if you feel you can modify it.

Hope this helps you guys.

i have a pioneer-avh3200bt that has a bypass to watch movies while i drive.

 

 

i installed the navi add on yesterday and realized that when the navi started with the car it reactivated the brake sensor, disabling the ability to watch movies while the car was moving. so i had to make another bypass switch.

 

I noticed that if i started the car with the navi unplugged and then plugged it in, I could watch movies and have my navi features while the car was moving. so i made a on and off switch for my navi unit.

 

 

 

 

 

now it works like a charm! {thumbup}

 

So if i understand correctly.. U had the reg bypass then added a switch to ur yellow line to the navi unit?

I believe I have found a solution for the add on u220 using the same bypass as the DVD. I spent hours on it this past weekend and tried EVERYTHING. The issue is not the grounds from the unit. The bypass is already setup to ground itself. The problem is powering up. As I was trying every possible combination wiring wise on my harness, I started to think a different route. So I unplugged the Navi and the bypass worked fine. I left the bluetooth in and it still worked fine. So obviously the Navi was canceling the bypass somehow. What I began to think about was that since the add on modules have there own power and grounds, that they must power themselves up and send the signal to the head unit. So because the u220 must power up before/with the unit, then the error message appears because of the u220 being that it isnt bypassed after the unit turns on (same as the DVD). So my solution to that was to use the same concept as the DVD and wire the battery wire from the u220 with the remote wire of the head unit to the relay pin. Keep in mind I made my own relay out of a Bosch 12v relay (or similar). Since I have done that, everything works like a charm and as it should. No more error messages and and abnormal noises. As far as the grounds, I just tied them in with the other grounds.

 

Recap: Yellow Battery pinned with Remote Wire on homemade relay. Ground normally (via harness or chassis). The relays you buy on Ebay and such wont work because they are made for a finished look and I have yet to cut into one and see how they wire it together. But this concept will work if you feel you can modify it.

 

Hope this helps you guys.

So are you saying that with this mod you described done to your unit, you are now able to dial the phone on the screen, put in addresses and watch a DVD while you are driving? The homemade relay you used, is it just a 5 pin relay with pins labeled 86, 87, 87a, 85, and 30?

So are you saying that with this mod you described done to your unit, you are now able to dial the phone on the screen, put in addresses and watch a DVD while you are driving? The homemade relay you used, is it just a 5 pin relay with pins labeled 86, 87, 87a, 85, and 30?

This does not bypass the function that disables the address function while driving. This only allows you to bypass DVD and NAVI without using a switch or another relay. Everything works normally by doing this. However, I still cannot figure out how fully use my bluetooth and am not sure how to bring up the dial screen, so I am not sure if this bypasses it. I have never figured out how to do the bluetooth dial screen. Can anyone help me with that? Maybe this whole time the bluetooth options were limited because I never bypassed them, but either way, doing the same thing with the bluetooth power wire as the U220 wire will bypass bluetooth as well.

Hello all ... a newbie here .... Well I bought the Pioneer AVH-P4300dvd with Bluetooth and Navigation .... I have the Pac TR7 and a relay I have the diagram to wire both for the life of me I don't understand what wire I connect the green wire from the Pac TR7 to? .... there is no Wiring diagram that came with the unit .... I have a blue/white wire that says remote on switch ..... I do not have a solid blue wire for amp on???

Can anyone please help me to get this all sorted out without me blowing my unit up !

Thanx in Advance

Brian

Got the answer .... the Blue/white wire

Brian

Hello all, hopefully I'll get a Reply soon, but I just Bought the Pioneer AVH-P5200BT, with Optional Remote and AVIC-U220 and although I haven't gone about Installing anything yet, because I'm having A LOT of Issues with taking my 4-Seat-er Turbo Convertible apart, lol, I did already Buy the Nice Looking Brake Bypass Harness from ebay, because I didn't know about the Navigation Unit Cancelling that all out till now, but here's the thing, if I Buy the PAC TR7, will I still be able to use the Relay Bypass Harness I got off ebay to Wire it all up like in the Diagram, or did I Waste my Money on the ebay Bypass, again, keeping in mind, it wasn't until I saw Comments on YouTube about the Brake Bypass not Working with the Navi, so?? Honestly, it's starting to Sound like it would be A LOT Easier and A LOT less Hassle to just Connect the Parking Brake up, but with my Car, the Parking Brake Wire is IMPOSSIBLE to get to, so I thought this would be easier; however, I guess not??

I put my Car in A LOT of Auto Shows as well, so I thought this would be Cool and all, then again, during the Shows, my Car will be Parked, so I dunno if it's Worth Spending the extra $20.00 on the PAC TR7 if I can't Wire it up with the Brake Bypass I already have from ebay, so I dunno, but any help from those who Wired this all up would be WONDERFUL, Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

James C.

I've also been Reading about a Code that can be put in to allow Access to the Sub-menu of the Head Unit, so that the Parking Brake can be Shut Off Permanently; however, it seems that People who know and have this Code aren't willing to share it, so I dunno what to do and I need Replies IMMEDIATELY, because I really need to get this all Installed this Weekend.

No, not a "total" bypass - I haven't come across anyone who's been able to bypass the accelerometer. This just fixes the video issue which is good enough for me right now. From what I've seen so far, the only functions that are unavailable when going over 10mph are some settings and anything requiring you to type on the keyboard. These functions do come back when you slow back down though, so when you stop at a light, even if the functions had been locked out, you can use them again.

 

Just a side note, I went through the rediculous process of updating the AVIC U220 with the POI's you get for registering and found out (through trial and error) that your SD card MUST be formatted as FAT32, not NTFS. The nav unit would not recognize my NTFS formatted card at all!

Hello,

I just want to know, can you do a phone call in your installation without slowing down the car?

If not, maybe its a good thing to do a convination of both installations....a switch to turn off the navgate and the TR-7 install.

What do you think?...Only in case that you cannot use the unit like it works with the relay bypass.

Thank you very much!.

This is how I wired up my 3200DVD, 5-pin relay, and PAC TR7:

TR7 Feature – #4 (Double-pulse)

TR7 Red – Accessory

TR7 Black – Ground

TR7 Blue – Relay pin 86

TR7 Green – Stereo amp turn on lead (blue)

Relay pin 87 – disconnected

Relay pin 87a – Ground

Relay pin 30 – Stereo parking brake lead (green)

Relay pin 85 – Ground

Relay pin 86 – TR7 Blue

I tried simply grounding the brake wire, didn't work. i tried a 4-pin relay to delay the parking brake ground, didn't work. I tried the TR7 with the 4-pin relay to double-click the brake/ground, didn't work. The 5-pin relay was the trick that allowed me to reverse the signal. So where the 4-pin relay started ungrounded and went ground-unground-ground-unground, the 3200DVD didn't like being left ungrounded (thinking the parking brake was off). Using the 5-pin relay's 87a pin made the signal start as grounded, then go unground-ground-unground-ground. The 3200DVD thought the parking brake was on, then off, on, off, and ending up back on.

I hope this is found useful.

So quick "noob" question here, I have an AVH-3300BT...I'm not so concerned about video just navi (I just ordered the AVIC-U220). If I buy one of the automatic bypasses from ebay, will I still need a toggle switch, or can I still utilize all of the normal functions under 10mph?

i have a pioneer-avh3200bt that has a bypass to watch movies while i drive.

 

i installed the navi add on yesterday and realized that when the navi started with the car it reactivated the brake sensor, disabling the ability to watch movies while the car was moving. so i had to make another bypass switch.

 

I noticed that if i started the car with the navi unplugged and then plugged it in, I could watch movies and have my navi features while the car was moving. so i made a on and off switch for my navi unit.

 

 

now it works like a charm! {thumbup}

 

I am going to try this way since I need a quick solution by next week. Question...with the switch, did you just put it between the yellow wire on the Nav Unit. Also, so with this switch, if you leave it in the "NAV ON" position then shut the vehicle off then back on, I assume the video will not work. However, while the car is on and you flick the switch "OFF" then back "ON" will the video work?

Thanks!

Hi. There is a bypass on eBay and it works perfect with no programing. Its an integrated circuit this installer built and its less expensive and smaller then a tr7 and relay, and has a simple 3 wire hook up. Search for "AVIC-U220 Video Bypass" on eBay and it will come up. They sell it on microbypass.com too.

Hello Group. I just found the forum and am happy to have found you, but sad to have read what I just read. I just installed a AVH-3300BT and AVIC U-220 in my 95 Corvette. After install I quickly realized that the Parking Brake bypass relay was needed. So I made one from a relay I bought at an auto parts store. Simple enough I did mine just like others in this thread have shown. Although this gives some function to the DVD ability the real issue I want to resolve is the navigation function. After reading this thread I see that that may not be possible. At least currently. I have to say that this is a huge disappointment in this system.

What is Pioneer doing taking control of how I use a product that I paid for. I know it is some BS liability issue. I'm so disgusted with this I'm tempted to get rid of the whole system. I usually travel with my wife and she is able to search the Garmin while we are on the road. Very disappointed that they took a fantastic system and crippled it with this BS. Sorry for announcing myself with such a negative post, but I'm very unhappy. Just in case you missed that.

Anyway I'll be around the forum, looking for other bits of help with my system.

Hopefully someone will figure a work around soon.

Ron

I did the AVIC-U220 bypass with a AVH-P5200BT. Here is a diagram of what I did. The colors correspond to the AVH-P5200BT but the wiring is still the same for other models (in case the colors are different)

I realize i'm rezzing an old topic but why do you have the PAC wired to the constant 12v and draining the battery 24/7? It should be wired to the red ignition wire not the constant. If it's wired to constant then how will it know when to turn on and initiate the countdown?

EDIT:

You know what nevermind. I started thinking about it. You should be using the blue power antenna wire which starts the timer AFTER the headunit starts up.

Red = Ignition

Blue = Power Antenna

Yellow = Constant

I think the color of your lines confused me

EDIT 2:

No...Checked the diagram again and you are using the constant 12v yellow line from the vehicle to your PAC. It would be a lot easier and safer to use the ignition since it will not cause a drain on your battery.

Turn key to ign-> PAC starts up and sees input trigger voltage and initiates countdown. It would still essentially work the same way just without draining your battery with the car off.

Hi. I got one from http://microbypass.com and it works. I got the tr-7 first and it was complicated to program. the one one i got from microbypass.com and it was about 1/10th of the size and it had a really easy hook up with no programing. It looks like this:

This is the avh/mvh model, then the AVIC-U220 Model, then a standard relay for size comparison:

Hi. I got one from http://microbypass.com

 

and it works. I got the tr-7 first and it was complicated to program. the one one i got from microbypass.com and it was about 1/10th of the size and it had a really easy hook up with no programing. It looks like this:

Thanks!

Hi All,

I also used the PAC TR7, just wired a little different.

Used option 12 and delayed power to the u220 for 5seconds, works great. Still no way to bypass speed lock out though.

OK, first post here, and don't kill me for bumping an old thread.

I just bought the AVH-P6300BT. I couldn't care less about me (the driver) watching videos while driving...I don't..I like to drive. I am more concerned about having to do the parking brake dance when stopped, just so I can dial out. When I want to view videos, I'll stop but again, I never use the parking brake in the first place so doing the dance is just plain dumb. I don't live in the mountains!

I got this unit as the better half...well...she hates playing with what she calls "guy menus"...she wants large icons and simple for the Sirius and the radio. With the 1.5 din opening...I have little choice but to look at a 1 din unit.

Anyway, does anyone know if the U220 kills the bluetooth/handsfree operations when under motion? Do I need the brake bypass still with the U220?

Sorry for all the questions, but if this is going to be a PITA to install, I'm going to send this back and get the DEH-80PRS and keep using my Magellan Roademate 7" with bluetooth...and it even has the b/u camera...yes the install is on the windshield and the phone quality is OK, but there is no screwing around... I have lifetime maps...and voice dialling...

I have a avh-p4300dvd with the micro bypass and the DVD works fine but the autoeq won't work. Does anyone have a fix for that?

This is interesting.  I came across a different problem, but am considering the parking brake micro bypass.  My problem is strange.. I had the blue wire from my AVH-P3200BT hooked up to my amplifiers and my power antenna and everything worked perfectly.

Now I have my AVIC-U220 hooked up and the blue wire stays hot all of the time unless I turn off the car regardless if I turn the source off on the radio, AND I can't get the antenna to go down if I'm going into a carwash, etc...

The blue wire will only shut down if I turn the power off to the ignition and I cannot do that in a carwash.

Advice???