lol its still not that bad Pioneer Canada is 10 min walk from my house plus i work for a sterio place and authorized pioneer dealer so i dont think its that bad ....
BTW i was messing with the drive some more i put in my laptop and booted up and it was asking me for a password .... so tomorrow when i drop by pioneer ill get the password for my HD also and if im correct they all use same pass ... so that can be a good turn out after all
ah I missed that part. sorry I think your best bet at this point is to send it in for service....
best of luck.
lol you mean walk it in for service rite 
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ah I missed that part. sorry I think your best bet at this point is to send it in for service....best of luck.
ducatiboy i will need ur help tomorrow with my new drive ...
that is if they deal with it on the spot ... but i will do my best to work on the password
A PASSWORD? Go for it!
I definitely want this info if you can get it
well just got my unit back they give me a new HD and still locked Grrrrr
so no chance of getting the password from them cus they dont program the drives they come preloaded so that just sucks .
why is it that A-ff wont give us the PW its 1 PW for all the units ???
Well, this being my first post, I first want to thak you all for the tremendous help you have been with my installation and operation of my pre june Z1. I have been following these posts for several months now and I like many others am excited by the fact that the HDD can be copied.
However not all of us would have the equipment ( proper computer, balls etc.) to un-lock and copy the HDD. So.... I'm just saying....that if somebody with the proper equipment were to, maybe, ahem, go on google and type in Toshiba mk 3029 gace and find all of the companys willing to sell that HDD for less than $150.00 (because I really doubt if Pioneer would sell it) and....maybe....Clone their unlocked ( having the extra HDD will allow for the personal stuff to be cleaned without having to redo it all) image and sell it for about $200.00 there my be a few people that would then have their back-up HDD to play around with. Just a thought. besides wouldn't it be great to have, especialy if there was more than one user...he could pop in his own hard drive and all of his stuff would be as he/she wants it. (something for pioneer to develop for future units).
ohh BTW i can get as many drive as i want MSRP $459 my price $240 Canadian
well just got my unit back they give me a new HD and still locked Grrrrr
Yah, I would have guessed that.
so no chance of getting the password from them cus they dont program the drives they come preloaded so that just sucks .
That doesn't surprise me.
why is it that A-ff wont give us the PW its 1 PW for all the units ???
It's one 1 PW for every thoshiba drive (even not used by pioneer), but it's probably the same password for ever Z1.
A-FF won't tell us because of 2 reasons:
1. They know but if they told us then we wouldn't need to pay them $50
or
2. They don't know it but they figured out how to write a "known" password over the build in one, then their software unlocks the drive with the new password it just overwrote over the stock password from Pioneer.
Just a guess.
ohh BTW i can get as many drive as i want MSRP $459 my price $240 Canadian
So that's $78.54 American? 
Toshiba mk 3029 gace the exact same HDD
$147 American.
below is just one of many examples:
http://shopper.cnet.com/Toshiba_MK3029G ... 28928.html
That is a fare price. now if we could only get them programed and into a few curious hands, it could open up wide spread HDD/Software experimentation through-out avic 411
Are you saying that you could get a HDD with the pioneer software installed for 240 Canadian?
that is a good question. Do the drives from pioneer come pre-loaded? or would I still ahve to load my image?
YES $240 preloded
Are you saying that you could get a HDD with the pioneer software installed for 240 Canadian?
Where can I get one? I would like an extra. or is this 240 with exchange?
its $205.50 USD and unless you have a pioneer dealr thats willling to hook you up with dealers cost you will have to get it from me
Where can I get one? I would like an extra. or is this 240 with exchange?
Just wondering if anyone has tried to upgrade to the 40GB HDD that toshiba offers for automobile's. I believe the model # MK4036GAC. It has the same specs as the current 30Gb HDD in the z1. I was thinking of copying the image and transfering it to the new drive. I found this link were they are selling the HDD for $58.00.
http://store.generalsales.com/product_i ... 2e65119cfa
almost sounds too good to be true but I'll do some more research.
To my knowledge no one has tried this. I know copying an image works cause I have copied my image to a hard drive messed up the stock drive and restored it back with the image I made.
But any time I have tried to create a new drive with that same image, no luck. I didn't have an automotive drive to try and only tried it with the laptop drives I owned. If you want to spend the money go for it.
I was thinking of trying it, but if it didn't work, I have not use for a 40 gig laptop drive, that's too small for me to use on a laptop. So I never bought one. If it doesn't work and you are stuck with it and have a use for it anyway, go for it.
bbb search turned up this:
http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportPage_Expository.aspx?CompanyID=13110795
They seem to be absolutely neutral.
well turns out that they are an hour away from where i live and they do have a local store. I'm going to be in that area later on this week so I am going to swing by and check them out. If all looks well then I am going to pick up one or two. ducatiboy, are you using norton gost to mirror the drive or just backing it up? thanx
its $205.50 USD and unless you have a pioneer dealr thats willling to hook you up with dealers cost you will have to get it from me
Where can I get one? I would like an extra. or is this 240 with exchange?
I know this maybe a dumb question, but could you get a HDD preloaded w/ the Z2 info(pretty much a Z2 HDD replacement) and would it be the same cost? Maybe an easier upgrade for me since I don't have much music on my HDD...I truly just want newer maps...and then I'd have a spare HDD for upgrading later if/when that becomes possible..