well my first post and alredy looking for help but i did read some stuff before messing with my unit and i had a feeling this was going to happen to me so here is what i did ... bluetooth update and got stuck @ 99%

how can i fix this i know i was reading a post about some one doing a back up of the HD well i dont have one plus after that happend i went in to service menu and formated the HD now it just starts and saying no data so can some please tell me how to fix this or where i can get a back up and will i need to have my HD unlocked

Thanks for all the help i may get

Without a backup from a previously unlocked drive, I think you're out of luck. Did you get the unit from an authorized retailer so you can send it to Pioneer under warranty?

The only way I can think you might be able to fix it yourself is if someone has a backup image of a new replacement hard drive from Pioneer that hasn't been locked to a Z1 yet. I believe the replacement drives are unlocked and will just marry the first Z1 they're installed in, so a virgin image might fix yours if you can find it.

I have actually been wondering what Pioneer wants for a replacement drive. If it's not too much, I'd almost consider getting one myself just to use as a spare.

some one please post a back up

so is there a point of having my drive unlocked now ???

some one please post a back up

that's like 10 - 20 gigs in size.

Not that I would be worried about letting someone else use my image, but it's got all my "stuff on it" (home address, phone numbers, etc).

Now your drive is empty and locked. The only way to put anything on it would be to unlock it and then load a stored image on to it.

can you please post ur backup on FTP and ill pay to unlock my drive ...

im sure with my modem i can DL 20 gig in 1 day

some one please post a back up

 

that's like 10 - 20 gigs in size.

 

Not that I would be worried about letting someone else use my image, but it's got all my "stuff on it" (home address, phone numbers, etc).

 

Now your drive is empty and locked. The only way to put anything on it would be to unlock it and then load a stored image on to it.

I thought I remembered someone syaing there is a way to unlock a Hard drive for free, but will erase all the data.

Sounds like that wouldn't be a concern in this case in that his hard drive is formatted anyway.

Now the only thing is getting him an image of a drive. Just a thought....

can you please post ur backup on FTP and ill pay to unlock my drive ...

im sure with my modem i can DL 20 gig in 1 day

Mine won't upload it that fast. You are assuming that mine can upload as fast as yours can download. I think I have 256K upload speed (or something woefully slow). It might be 512K up. Best speed I calculate I would be able to upload that is 111 hours.

Also before I let my image out to the world I would have to save my current one, then wipe my nav system back to factory specs, then make a new image to "share" then restore my current image before I could even attempt uploading it. It's a lot of manipulation of my only drive on my nav system. Doing so with your drive poses no risk because it's already messed up as it is, I can't hurt it worse than it already is.

Not saying I wouldn't do that with my nav's drive, but it will take me a while to "get around to it". It's at least 5 hours of work to go through that.

why not send in for warranty? you may be able to download 20 gigs in a day, but could someone upload that much? not usually, 20 gigs is going to take something like a week on the average connection.

I thought I remembered someone syaing there is a way to unlock a Hard drive for free, but will erase all the data.

 

Sounds like that wouldn't be a concern in this case in that his hard drive is formatted anyway.

 

Now the only thing is getting him an image of a drive. Just a thought....

Good point, it's already empty, there are free utilities that claim to unlock it but lose the data, you could use that and save the $50 for unlocking.

sweet i think lol can you post a link to some unlocking tools ... and any 1 in Canada willing to share backup

I thought I remembered someone syaing there is a way to unlock a Hard drive for free, but will erase all the data.

 

Sounds like that wouldn't be a concern in this case in that his hard drive is formatted anyway.

 

Now the only thing is getting him an image of a drive. Just a thought....

 

Good point, it's already empty, there are free utilities that claim to unlock it but lose the data, you could use that and save the $50 for unlocking.

sweet i think lol can you post a link to some unlocking tools ... and any 1 in Canada willing to share backup

http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=150

ok i have this tool here

http://www.directron.com/bt300.html

but for some reason my PC cant find the drive ..

is there more that i need to do before i can hook up to my PC

sweet i think lol can you post a link to some unlocking tools ... and any 1 in Canada willing to share backup

 

http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=150

ok i have this tool here

http://www.directron.com/bt300.html

but for some reason my PC cant find the drive ..

is there more that i need to do before i can hook up to my PC

Because it's locked. Did you unlock the drive? The PC won't find the drive while it's locked through a USB device. You need to hook it right up to the IDE line with something like this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6812119020

Run whatever too you want to unlock it. We all use the one that costs $50 and saves the data, feel free to try anything you want. Then when you hook it to your adapter it will see it.

hey can you please work on that backup for me

ok i have this tool here

http://www.directron.com/bt300.html

but for some reason my PC cant find the drive ..

is there more that i need to do before i can hook up to my PC

 

Because it's locked. Did you unlock the drive? The PC won't find the drive while it's locked through a USB device. You need to hook it right up to the IDE line with something like this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6812119020

Run whatever too you want to unlock it. We all use the one that costs $50 and saves the data, feel free to try anything you want. Then when you hook it to your adapter it will see it.

MAYBE mail is a better way then ftp for this case. That is of course if the personal info is removable and the creator is willing.

20 gig email

"scratching head"

MAYBE mail is a better way then ftp for this case. That is of course if the personal info is removable and the creator is willing.

keep scratching since i said "mail" not "E" mail.

ohh sorry so any 1 willing to save the day

keep scratching since i said "mail" not "E" mail.

ohh sorry so any 1 willing to save the day

tillithz's right, it's way too large and cumbersome to transfer over the internet for me. If I had FIOS I would. But it's just too large to mess with my connection maxing it out for a week to upload it. If you want to mail your equipment out, we can work something out. Of course if someone else with an unlocked drive wants to upload their image, please chime in.

MAYBE mail is a better way then ftp for this case. That is of course if the personal info is removable and the creator is willing.

I don't know how to manually remove the files or edit the files to remove the personal information on my images. I don't know if it's possible. I would think the only way is to back up what I have now.... restore the nav to factory defaults, make another image of that, then restore what I have now. Lots of image creation and restoring.

ok 2 things then if i get a new drive and have it unlocked how do i keep it unlocked ???

and will the free tool just unlock my drive and keep it unlocked ??? or do i have to DL a file to make it unlock at all times ???

and how can i backup the drive just rip the folder on my pc then copy to my HD ???

ducatiboy can you PM ur number so i can just get some info from you

Thanks Vlad

ok 2 things then if i get a new drive and have it unlocked how do i keep it unlocked ???

Get a new drive? You would most likely need an automotive drive from pioneer, we tried with stock laptop drives and they don't seem to be reliable. I think it's a vibration issue.

How to unlock the drive and keep it unlocked:

http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728

and will the free tool just unlock my drive and keep it unlocked ??? or do i have to DL a file to make it unlock at all times ???

No one knows what the free tool will do, no one has used it cause it wipes out the stock drive and no one has wanted to try that. No file, but the instructions are above.

and how can i backup the drive just rip the folder on my pc then copy to my HD ???

It's possible, I used Ghost, or you can use Acronis. If there is nothing on the drive now, there is nothing to backup. If you had a new one, there are 4 partitions on the drive... well read above it's all there.

ducatiboy can you PM ur number so i can just get some info from you

Thanks Vlad

No, sorry. I can help you as much on line, but some people had abused the phone number I had given out early on so I made the decision I wouldn't do that anymore. While it's online, it's on my time frame and on my terms as much as I want. A couple calls while I was in bed or working and at dinner just killed my enthusiasm for giving out my phone number. Not saying you would do that, but they said they wouldn't either. Sorry.

You are NOT screwed!

I got stuck at the 99% too

I just had to burn the update disc diffrent till I got one to work.

I got the 4th one to work and it picked up right at the 99% and finished.

It works just fine.

I got it to work by unziping the downloaded file and placeing the files one at a time into nero and then burning and ISO image on a cd-r

Best of luck.

yaa but after i did that i got in to service menu and formated my HD

i think that there is to much info on the net for ppl like me

You are NOT screwed!

I got stuck at the 99% too

I just had to burn the update disc diffrent till I got one to work.

I got the 4th one to work and it picked up right at the 99% and finished.

It works just fine.

I got it to work by unziping the downloaded file and placeing the files one at a time into nero and then burning and ISO image on a cd-r

Best of luck.

You are NOT screwed!

I got stuck at the 99% too

I just had to burn the update disc diffrent till I got one to work.

I got the 4th one to work and it picked up right at the 99% and finished.

It works just fine.

While that's true, did you read his initial post?

after that happend i went in to service menu and formated the HD now it just starts and saying no data so can some please tell me how to fix this or where i can get a back up and will i need to have my HD unlocked

That's why I believe he is screwed (well not screwed, but not as well off as you might think). If he didn't format the HD with the service menu, left the nav alone at 99% and did what you said, he would have been fine. Now with a formatted hard drive.... want to re-evaluate his level of screwed-ness?