Hi Mach1Chris, I noticed if the unit is in the process of booting and then the unit is interrupted (key on/off) it will initialize on the next start-up. Could this be the cause of your frequent initializations? The AV is a pain and I am having the same issue, hopefully someone can figure out how to load to map or main menu.

I think that's probably the issue. Many car ignitions have this bad habit of dropping the accessory voltage when cranking the engine, so the Avic will start booting when you start turning your key, but then if the voltage drops enough during engine crank (I think less than 10V or something) then it'll start the boot process again. Mine always did that, but I ended up solving it with the help of another Avic411 thread which had schematics to wire up a batch of 10 rechargable AAs. You can find it by searching for my posts as it took me a couple iterations to get it right. *** found it here: *** http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/19417-ignition-mod-on-f900bt/page__fromsearch__1 You might also avoid your issues by turning the key all the way quickly so the Avic doesn't have enough time start that first boot process. -PMS

You know what... i think you guys are right, must be the partial startup. Made sure I start the car right up the last 6 times i've started it now and it hasn't happened a single time. Good catch guys, thanks!

Going to try and get the italian forums UI tweaks added to mine. If I get it all working, I'll post up an addon zip that ryar can add if he wants..

Is there any way that primo 1.0 can boot as the main gps when the map button is hit?

I find it annoying to go to the menu button each time to get back to the primo map.

I am also having the issue of the unit starting at the AV screen. I wrote a mortscript file which auto-launches hobdrive then Primo 2.0. I would like to share it, but there are differences in the hobdrive free version and paid version and for some reason the free version slows the unit to a crawl with Primo 2.0 running simultaneously. Also, the task name for the paid version is hobdrive while the free version is /hobd which mortscript simply will not recognize (perhaps the / is messing it up). Anyways, if you find a way to have it launch to the map or main menu screen please share.

 

I believe the reason hobdrive takes awhile to launch and even display after it is running is because it uses .NET Compact Framework. There is no way around this that I am aware

Hey Ryar,

So I purchased the full version and just copied the file contents over my current AvicNet2.1 install as I saw a few Mortscript-type things in there that I'm guessin make it go... and it works great. In fact, it now loads noticably faster. One thing that no longer works (though I'm not 100% that it worked before) is that when I configure HOBD to start with "Hot Button", it does put the icon up in the menu, but it won't initiate the OBD connection till I manually get in and start up the HOBD interface.

My next step will be to copy MyFLashDisk back to my PC and see what Mortscript or config file changes that enabling that Hot Button changed and see if I can slip HOBD and Primo2.0 in there. Though I did notice up there in your quote that you'd like to share your Mortscript (I could help you out with that ).

Is there any way that primo 1.0 can boot as the main gps when the map button is hit?

I may be wrong, but it's my understanding that the physical buttons' are controlled by code within the custom compiled iGo8 code that runs the menu systems and AV stuff. Therefore there's no way to capture those button presses. 'Menu' will always take you to the main menu and 'Map' will always take you to the iGo8 map screen.

-PMS

Is there any way that primo 1.0 can boot as the main gps when the map button is hit?

 

I find it annoying to go to the menu button each time to get back to the primo map.

The buttons are only "seen" by Primo when it is an active window, when it is not they are "seen" by the unit. There are 3rd party programs which can use such as AEKmap but implementing them would be difficult.

Hey Ryar,

 

So I purchased the full version and just copied the file contents over my current AvicNet2.1 install as I saw a few Mortscript-type things in there that I'm guessin make it go... and it works great. In fact, it now loads noticably faster. One thing that no longer works (though I'm not 100% that it worked before) is that when I configure HOBD to start with "Hot Button", it does put the icon up in the menu, but it won't initiate the OBD connection till I manually get in and start up the HOBD interface.

 

My next step will be to copy MyFLashDisk back to my PC and see what Mortscript or config file changes that enabling that Hot Button changed and see if I can slip HOBD and Primo2.0 in there. Though I did notice up there in your quote that you'd like to share your Mortscript (I could help you out with that ).

Sure, I attached a package you can copy over your unit. When it is set up to autolaunch it will take you to the main menu (via simulated key presses), launch HobDrive, kill ezrider, and then launch Primo. A couple other additions are the keyboard icon will appear in HobDrive to make it easier to enter settings and hide the keyboard and an icon will appear while in HobDrive to take you directly to Primo. Note it will only work with the full version of HobDrive due to limitations in the free version (poor performance and different process names, ect).

Instructions: Unzip, copy to your unit. Make a shortcut by tapping Avic Net, Settings, Menu, Programs, Add. Choose a program name (I use HobD and Primo), choose an icon, and set the Program path. It is: \my flash disk\apl4\hobdprimo\hobdpromo.exe. Choose "Yes" for Autorun with start iGO. Reboot and that's it! Note for the timing and file names I set it up specifically for my unit (I start at the AV nag screen disclaimer) so some small tweeks may be required. Post back, let us know how it works. Good luck!

hobdriveprimo.rar

You know what... i think you guys are right, must be the partial startup. Made sure I start the car right up the last 6 times i've started it now and it hasn't happened a single time. Good catch guys, thanks!

 

Going to try and get the italian forums UI tweaks added to mine. If I get it all working, I'll post up an addon zip that ryar can add if he wants..

Sounds good, I look forward to your addon with the UI tweaks you are using.

Instructions: Unzip, copy to your unit. Make a shortcut by tapping Avic Net, Settings, Menu, Programs, Add. Choose a program name (I use HobD and Primo), choose an icon, and set the Program path. It is: \my flash disk\apl4\hobdprimo\hobdpromo.exe. Choose "Yes" for Autorun with start iGO. Reboot and that's it! Note for the timing and file names I set it up specifically for my unit (I start at the AV nag screen disclaimer) so some small tweeks may be required. Post back, let us know how it works. Good luck!

***edit***

Figured out the HOBDrive starting issue. The hobdrive.mscr was pointing to hobd.exe instead of hobdrive.exe. So things start up okay now, but even though hobdrive is running (I can hear its connection noises) the engine icon doesn't bring up the interface. The icon for going back to Primo works okay though.

Back to the drawing board, but I'm getting there. I think I'm starting to almost understand how these scripts work. I see some commented out code that looks like it's waiting for hobdrive to start, but it's been replaced by just a delay. Maybe I'll add that back in or extend the delay?

Oh, and I see others are downloading the script so just note, In Ryar's instructions, the proper program path is \my flash disk\apl4\hobdriveprimo\hobdprimo.exe

***edit 2***

Aha. I think I see the problem with the icon. obdbutton.exe.ini has hobd.exe instead of hobdrive.exe in it as well. Can't test right now, but it makes sense.

-PMS

Thank You Ryar for uploading and sharing your incredible work.

Good catch PMS, I guess somewhere along the line I changed hobd.exe to hobdrive.exe. Alternately you could have done the same rather then change all the scripts, my apologies for sharing a script which did not work without modification..

I commented the commands to wait for hobdrive to start and used a delay because I didn't have much luck with the wait commands and if Primo tries to launch while hobdrive is still loading it bogs the unit down and it is not usable for a longer period of time.

One other thing I have discovered recently regarding the OBDII reader. Initially I left it plugged in my car and after not driving for a few days it had drained down the battery! I did a little reaserch and it turns out the elm327 I had purchased was pre 1.4b and at that time they did not have a standby mode. I got a new one delivered recently (version 1.5a I believe) and when it is plugged in and the ignition off the single red light dims indicating it is in standby. I have not had any issues with the battery draining since and have installed it hidden under the dash out of sight.

Has anyone tried a bluetooth elm327? I have played with the bluetooth stack included in avicnet (with a usb dongle) and am curious if the OSBII works. It may require manually pairing each time which would make this method a hassle compared to the usb method. I appears as thought the bluetooth stack does not support A2DP, unfortunately. That would sure make my day if someone could figure out how to stream audio from my phone to my avic!

djluis2012: Thanks for your support! I feel more compelled to share and help others on this forum when there is activity here.

These updates are fantastic. I have been wanting to do something like this (hook up OBDII in the navi unit), but haven't been able to do it. Great progress so far!

Ok so I tried to update it. I went into testmode and as i was in there, primo started up... I then pressed menu and it went back into the testmode screen, so I then deleted my old flash disk to copy over the new one. It stopped because it could delete the maps because they were in use by primo which I guess was still in use, What am I doing wrong?

Ok so I tried to update it. I went into testmode and as i was in there, primo started up... I then pressed menu and it went back into the testmode screen, so I then deleted my old flash disk to copy over the new one. It stopped because it could delete the maps because they were in use by primo which I guess was still in use, What am I doing wrong?

Close Primo before copying the maps. Make sure no programs are running before copying or you won't be able to delete/copy over files as they may be in use.

 

 

Close Primo before copying the maps. Make sure no programs are running before copying or you won't be able to delete/copy over files as they may be in use.

Yea but it won't let me close primo, all I have is the primo screen. Then when I press the menu button it takes me to test mode and I can't close primo from test mode.

Yea but it won't let me close primo, all I have is the primo screen. Then when I press the menu button it takes me to test mode and I can't close primo from test mode.

How are you starting testmode? I boot into testmode with an SDCard and have never had an issue with other apps starting up unless I browse to them myself.

-PMS

 

 

How are you starting testmode? I boot into testmode with an SDCard and have never had an issue with other apps starting up unless I browse to them myself.

 

-PMS

That is how I did it... Primo would just randomly start every time. I ended up doing a wince upgrade and got it installed. Some of my problems are:

1. I open primo 2.0, then I close it and I cannot go to any other avicnet options because there is lettering in front of the avicnet icon that says I must restart since avicnet is disabled.

2. I also could not get primo to get a lock on the gps.... And yes I have wince 6.0

That is how I did it... Primo would just randomly start every time. I ended up doing a wince upgrade and got it installed. Some of my problems are:

1. I open primo 2.0, then I close it and I cannot go to any other avicnet options because there is lettering in front of the avicnet icon that says I must restart since avicnet is disabled.

2. I also could not get primo to get a lock on the gps.... And yes I have wince 6.0

Use a different version of testmode. I would guess the one you are using is set up to auto-launch Primo each time. As for your GPS fix issues, the portsplitter program is required which launches with avicnet. Find a new testmode and launch primo through avicnet and you will not have any issues.

So my install of Ryar's AvicNet2.1 and full version of Hobdrive is working pretty stable now. I've just been taking short, infrequent trips lately, but I really prefer Primo2.0 map layout now and switching quickly to see advanced fuel economy stats is awesome.

The one thing I'm still searching the forums for is a way to bring up the volume of the SDCard music relative to the Primo2.0 sounds. I put the SLA setting up to +4 in the main iGo AVSound settings and that helped, but I still need to put "voice volume" in Primo2.0 to almost the minimum so that it doesn't blow out my eardrums when I've turned up the volume for the music. That makes it hard to fine tune.

The main volume slider in Primo2.0 decreases the SD music volume too so that's no help.

One other thing I've experienced with my last couple attempts is "Out of memory" errors when trying to restart into AvicNet mode. Children are preventing me from doing any sort of trial and error troubleshooting, but I have a feeling that I never had issues before upgrading to the full version of Hobdrive.

I'll have some more updates after the next rainy day (I'm riding the kids to school in a bike trailer now that summer's here). Or anyone have a hack to get the Avic running on a bicycle with pedal power?

-PMS

PMS, what skin are you using with Primo? Also for HobDrive for that matter. I just use a black background on HobDrive and the GJ 1.08 skin for Primo. Some skins use more memory, maybe try and switch to something else and see if you have issues.

As for your sound issues, there are various sys.txt commands which may help. I would suggest trying:

[sound]

use_os_volume=1

PMS, what skin are you using with Primo? Also for HobDrive for that matter.

Haven't played around with any skins so I suppose I'm just using the defaults. I did notice that some of Hobdrive's gauges have coloured dots behind them, I think to show average values. I didn't have those with your default install of the free version. They make the gauges difficult to read anyway so I'll try removing that to see if it frees up memory.

Thanks for the suggestion for the sound too. I'll try these things on the weekend and let you know.

Thanks,

-PMS

Ryar,

Thanks for you effort on this.

I installed the updates Avicnet 21. Everything went well, except my parking brake bypass no longer works. M

eaning, that i need to have the parking brake on before i can make changes to settings, play dvd etc.

I checked the pioneer.ini file in data.zip and it has a parking brake speed value of 256. parking_break_speed=256.0

So that is not the issue.

Is there another setting i can change somewhere that will enable this? This used to work with Avicnet 2.0

Also, i have a bluetooth ELM OBD adapter. I am going to try that out tonight.

Edit: Happy to report that Bluetooth OBD II works with a cheap usb dongle.

I had to first part it with "Authentication" in the control panel. PIN for my adapter was "6789". It is a generic ELM 327 from ebay.

Also, I had to select bluetooth adapter in HOB Drive, and type in the PIN again.

Nice, good job on the bluetooth odb. Does it auto-connect after pairing the first time or do you have to enter the pin each time?

I am not sure why the bypass is not working for you. I have the park brake wire grounded on my unit and everything works. If your settings are correct in the data.zip and you have no access to settings while driving perhaps grounding your park brake wire would be the easiest method.

Nice, good job on the bluetooth odb. Does it auto-connect after pairing the first time or do you have to enter the pin each time?

 

I am not sure why the bypass is not working for you. I have the park brake wire grounded on my unit and everything works. If your settings are correct in the data.zip and you have no access to settings while driving perhaps grounding your park brake wire would be the easiest method.

I had the same problem so I had to go back to Avic 2.0 and everything works fine when I copied back to 2.0. I also have my parking brakes grounded so that is not the problem..

Jimbo

Hmm, what units do you guys have? It could be the gyro coming back to haunt us. The f900bt, f90bt, and x910bt all have the gyro. Did you guys move the and ground the mute wire? Did you flash the winCE 6 as directed on the first post of this thread? I don't have the same issue with my f900bt, I wonder why? You could also try deleting all the data in the iGo save folder except the userlist folder.

Hmm, what units do you guys have? It could be the gyro coming back to haunt us. The f900bt, f90bt, and x910bt all have the gyro. Did you guys move the and ground the mute wire? Did you flash the winCE 6 as directed on the first post of this thread? I don't have the same issue with my f900bt, I wonder why? You could also try deleting all the data in the iGo save folder except the userlist folder.

I have F90bt. I have done everything including the gyro and the wince flash.I will delete the IGO folder and let you know what happens.

Thanks

Jimbo

Hi dears,

I want to use Huawei E176G mobile 3G modem on Pioneer X-910BT for internet connections for get real traffic information. But I didn't find any driver E176G for WinCe.

Can anyone help me? or other any idea?