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Iphone 5 Cable?

By slugo10 · Sep 13, 2012in General💬 148 posts👁️ 54,242 views
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Posted Sep 13, 2012 · 12:56 UTC#1

Anyone know if or when Pioneer is going to come out with a new cable to connect the new plug on the Iphone 5? I know Apple has an adaptor but a complete new plug would be alot better!

Posted Sep 13, 2012 · 14:25 UTC#2

Too early to speculate.

Posted Sep 13, 2012 · 23:23 UTC#3

I don't think the adapter will work on the current units since it uses the 3.5 audio out? Remember, ipod out is no longer supported.

Posted Sep 14, 2012 · 02:59 UTC#4

im confused ipod out no longer supported ?

Posted Sep 14, 2012 · 14:35 UTC#5

iPod out no longer supported means that you cannot use the Pioneer deck to control your iPhone / iPod. Audio out will still work, but the deck will no longer be able to display apps, etc.

Posted Sep 14, 2012 · 16:13 UTC#6

iPod out no longer supported means that you cannot use the Pioneer deck to control your iPhone / iPod. Audio out will still work, but the deck will no longer be able to display apps, etc.

Agreed. Sadly it doesn't look like the adapter will work. As I preordered the iPhone 5, I plan on picking up an adapter in person down the line just to test it and make sure. Ultimately it does look like a new cable from pioneer will be needed. I emailed them, but they said to check back in a few weeks
Posted Sep 14, 2012 · 19:31 UTC#7

If pioneer doesn't attempt to make the the new iPhone work with the nav units then I'm going to call foul on this one.

Posted Sep 21, 2012 · 18:47 UTC#8

I can confirm that the apple cable and adapter do NOT work with the unit. It does not recognize the iPhone at all. It sucks out loud, albeit - very quietly.

Posted Sep 22, 2012 · 01:41 UTC#9

How can you confirm this, since the adapter isn't even available yet?

Posted Sep 22, 2012 · 03:47 UTC#10

How can you confirm this, since the adapter isn't even available yet?

x2
Posted Sep 22, 2012 · 18:09 UTC#11

I tried plugging my iPhone 5 directly into the USB port to see what would happen. My iPhone 4S would be detected and could be controlled using this method but of course there wouldn't be any audio. I tried it with the iPhone 5 and it's USB cable and the stereo (Avic X920BT) didn't even detect the iPhone whatsoever.. However it does charge it. I get a bad feeling about this.. I wish I could find one of those adapters somewhere.

-Keith

Posted Sep 23, 2012 · 01:53 UTC#12

I had a buddy plug a iPhone 5 into the USB port on a x940 at Best Buy. Album art and control was there, just no audio of course.

Posted Sep 23, 2012 · 20:19 UTC#13

I had a buddy plug a iPhone 5 into the USB port on a x940 at Best Buy. Album art and control was there, just no audio of course.

 

What about this....

 

1. Connect the iphone 5 to the USB port on the X940? (this would give you control and album art)

2. Then using an audio cable between the headphone jack on the iphone and the x940? (this would give you audio????)

 

Just a thought.....

Posted Sep 24, 2012 · 01:18 UTC#14

What about this....

 

1. Connect the iphone 5 to the USB port on the X940? (this would give you control and album art)

2. Then using an audio cable between the headphone jack on the iphone and the x940? (this would give you audio????)

 

Just a thought.....

 

Well that should work, that is if what the superjet reports is accurate. Everyone else has reported that it doesn't even recognize that the phone is connected.

 

@superjet: Did you see this for yourself or are you relying on your buddy from Best Buy second hand?

Posted Sep 24, 2012 · 01:28 UTC#15

I did not see it in person. My phone will not be in for a few weeks, hopefully the same time this adapter comes out.

However, he did test single din CD decks also that just use USB input and they worked. Really, anyone with an iPhone 5 should be able to go into a Best Buy and try it on an A/V unit to confirm. They have front USB and mini input. I would suggest anyone doing this to do a soft reset first (press and hold power and home button for 15 seconds)

Edited Sep 24, 2012 by superjet
Posted Sep 24, 2012 · 01:32 UTC#16

Yeah we need pics if anyone is able to test.

Posted Sep 24, 2012 · 01:39 UTC#17

Well, the question is answered here at least with the AVH units. So clearly if your unit supports DA over USB you are good to go. Of course the F/X/Z series doesn't support DA over USB.

 

Posted Sep 24, 2012 · 01:53 UTC#18

For the record, I have a z130bt and have a similar setup where I have a female USB input.

 

Plugging my iPhone 5 into the female usb with the lightning connector, I still get no recognition that there is an iPod (though it does charge), so the 30pin->lighting converter will be the only hope here unless pioneer releases a firmware update to remedy this.

Edited Sep 24, 2012 by mattaleao
Posted Sep 24, 2012 · 13:56 UTC#19

Well that should work, that is if what the superjet reports is accurate. Everyone else has reported that it doesn't even recognize that the phone is connected.

 

@superjet: Did you see this for yourself or are you relying on your buddy from Best Buy second hand?

Yeah, I unplugged my PIO/USB-50V from the USB cable and plugged my iPhone 5's cable into the USB port and it didn't even recognize my phone. I wish I could get my hands on an adapter to at least try it... if it won't work, I'm just going to return my iPhone 5 and go back to the 4S.

-Keith

Posted Sep 24, 2012 · 15:05 UTC#20

Radioshack seems to think they are getting their shipment of adapters on thursday. If that's the case i'll buy one and test it. Supposedly there is an adapter that wil do video out as well for $10 more, I'm not sure if they will be coming out at the same time as the audio-only or not.

Posted Sep 24, 2012 · 21:54 UTC#21

I have an interesting update! On closer observation, the deck DOES detect the iPhone 5. When I plug it in using the supplied USB cable the Pandora icon appears but the iPod icon does not. After maybe 20 seconds a message flashes briefly saying "Authorization failure - iPod not connected", then a moment later the message AND pandora icon disappear.

 

I remember I had that problem last year at one point but can't remember what caused it, I think it was during the iOS 4 beta.

Posted Sep 24, 2012 · 22:33 UTC#22

Mine does this as well, I suspect a firmware update on the pioneer side will be required to fix this. Not necessarily a cable.

Posted Sep 24, 2012 · 23:39 UTC#23

Mine does this as well, I suspect a firmware update on the pioneer side will be required to fix this. Not necessarily a cable.

I think you're right.. and I hope you're wrong.. because we all know that firmware update will be called the X950BT.

Posted Sep 25, 2012 · 01:32 UTC#24

Mine does this as well, I suspect a firmware update on the pioneer side will be required to fix this. Not necessarily a cable.

 

Out of curiosity is your unit running the new 4.0 firmware? From the 2012 update? There's a chance they made some updates on the backend that could help.

Posted Sep 25, 2012 · 02:30 UTC#25

Guys a firmware update is not going to fix this and the adapter likely wont either. For the adapter to work it would have to have a D/A converter and I highly doubt it has one. This is likely going to require a hardware solution internal to the unit and thats not going to happen with these units. We certainly will know more when the adapters are released but don't get your hopes up.

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