I installed the x940BT firmware on my x929bt tonight and tested again, the behavior is different however it still does not recognize the iPhone. All it does is display the aha radio and pandora icons but it doesn't let you select them, this time no error message appears.
Yes, I'm on the latest. No dice.
Out of curiosity is your unit running the new 4.0 firmware? From the 2012 update? There's a chance they made some updates on the backend that could help.
I'm not sure that's necessarily true. When you plug the phone in, the unit sees 'a device' initially, it just doesn't see the ipod or pandora application that runs on it. The fact that it throws the error 'ipod not authorized' leads me to believe it sees the device but not the application, which a firmware update could potentially fix. I agree however, that the adaptor likely won't do much.
Guys a firmware update is not going to fix this and the adapter likely wont either. For the adapter to work it would have to have a D/A converter and I highly doubt it has one. This is likely going to require a hardware solution internal to the unit and thats not going to happen with these units. We certainly will know more when the adapters are released but don't get your hopes up.
Oh a firmware change could allow the unit to see the phone through USB alright, thats not the issue. Getting digital audio into the unit when there is no hardware to support it is the problem and that is where there will likely be no solution for these units.
The official Apple adapter should fix the issue, we just have to wait for it. Their adapter has a DAC in it, so we should be able to do everything other than video with it.
The official Apple adapter should fix the issue, we just have to wait for it. Their adapter has a DAC in it, so we should be able to do everything other than video with it.
I doubt the adapter is going to fix the issue, the unit should be recognizing the phone without the adapter and be able to control it sans audio.
In any event I just noticed a bad pixel on my screen so I'm going to exchange it tomorrow.. if not just return it.. the benefits don't outweigh the negatives for what I paid.
-Keith
just to clarify... do ALL Apple iPods (ok, the last three generations) output some kind of video to the X920 headunit via the 30 pin Pioneer cable? Surprisingly, I haven't tried this...
just to clarify... do ALL Apple iPods (ok, the last three generations) output some kind of video to the X920 headunit via the 30 pin Pioneer cable? Surprisingly, I haven't tried this...
Yes.
and that includes videos such as movies, music videos, etc.?Yes.
Is this not true?
From what we currently understand, the iPhone 5, with the 30 pin adapter and the current cable from pioneer:
Will support audio iPod output.
Will support audio out apps (like Pandora)
Might support controls (thumb up, thumb down, next, etc)
Will NOT support video iPod, video app, or Enhanced App Radio functions.
Without the 30 pin adapter, (using the included USB cable) all you can do is charge the phone.
This was posted by pioneer in the blog section.
and that includes videos such as movies, music videos, etc.?
Yes.
Is this not true?
From what we currently understand, the iPhone 5, with the 30 pin adapter and the current cable from pioneer:
Will support audio iPod output.
Will support audio out apps (like Pandora)
Might support controls (thumb up, thumb down, next, etc)
Will NOT support video iPod, video app, or Enhanced App Radio functions.
Without the 30 pin adapter, (using the included USB cable) all you can do is charge the phone.
This was posted by pioneer in the blog section.
No one will know anything for sure until the adapter is released.
Is this not true?
From what we currently understand, the iPhone 5, with the 30 pin adapter and the current cable from pioneer:
Will support audio iPod output.
Will support audio out apps (like Pandora)
Might support controls (thumb up, thumb down, next, etc)
Will NOT support video iPod, video app, or Enhanced App Radio functions.
Without the 30 pin adapter, (using the included USB cable) all you can do is charge the phone.
This was posted by pioneer in the blog section.
Do you have a link to that? I'm trying to find it, it's interesting since when I called Pioneer they said they had no knowledge or official standing on the matter. I'm hoping what they posted is accurate.
-Keith
Oh, I misunderstood.. I thought it was a Pioneer blog you got that from.. That looks like a post from an Avic admin on the Avic blog, not a post from Pioneer. Unless JasonH works for Pioneer? (I'm not familiar with that)
-Keith
He often has inside info that no one else here does but again, no one knows anything until the items are in hand to test. And taking Pioneer's word means nothing on this forum. They have been known to be wrong about things they tell people on several occasions.
thanksYes.
I can assure you that nobody at Pioneer has an adapter to even test with, so this is all just people guessing. We won't know anything for a bit. I was told that radioshack is expecting them on Thursday, but then the apple store told me they had no ETA and it might be end of October before they show up at their stores.
If the makers of Android phones would get half-a-brain between them, develop a standard interface that includes docks, cables, chargers, etc, that third-party devices like Pioneer and Kenwood could use, then Apple would have a fight on their hands.
Why Google, Samsung, HTC etc are too stupid to realize this is completely beyond me. Can anyone explain why they have all missed the boat on this?
Can anyone explain why they have all missed the boat on this?
Because they are not Apple. And by the time they do, if they do, Apple will have an even better solution. As I said earlier in another post, this change that Apple has made sucks now but it will be better for us all in the near future.
Maybe you guys can help me out. I'm very much considering ditching the AppRadio right now. Partly because of the iPhone 5 cable issue and partly because its been a tenuous relationship from the beginning.
As I understand it, the x series (been looking at the 940) has also be impacted by this. My assumption is that "advanced app mode" has been lost as it uses a cable similar to the AppRadio, but that all other functions remaining operational. Does this include the ability to play iPod/iPhone through USB?
Maybe you guys can help me out. I'm very much considering ditching the AppRadio right now. Partly because of the iPhone 5 cable issue and partly because its been a tenuous relationship from the beginning.
As I understand it, the x series (been looking at the 940) has also be impacted by this. My assumption is that "advanced app mode" has been lost as it uses a cable similar to the AppRadio, but that all other functions remaining operational. Does this include the ability to play iPod/iPhone through USB?
Until the adapter comes out no one knows what functionality if any will exist or not exist
-Keith
Oh, I get that. What I'm after is what exists now (as compared to my AppRadio, which is nothing).
Oh, I get that. What I'm after is what exists now (as compared to my AppRadio, which is nothing).
The X/Z series has the same issues, nothing works right now. The only Pioneer unit that works with the i5 is the AVH series of units and that is for audio only. No video and no app support.
Thanks Blue, that's info I was looking for. I guess it's just more wait and see (patience is not my specialty).