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z150 bypass

By gill41083 · Mar 15, 2013in Hacks/Mods💬 159 posts👁️ 48,062 views
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Posted Apr 24, 2013 · 17:54 UTC#101

yeah no you dont need to move it.  you can get another pin and put another wire in there and leave the original along.  i wouldnt even know where to get a new pin that small.  

Posted Apr 25, 2013 · 04:39 UTC#102

For removing it: I filed down the end of a paperclip to make it thin, and then stuck it in into the slot the mute wire was in, towards the middle of the plugs - so the mute wire was closer to the edge.  If you look down there you'll see a plastic wedge holding it in place.  With the paperclip-wedge blocking that, I shoved another paperclip through the bottom to force the mute wire out.

 

Also ensure it's in all the way when you move it.  I thought I had done it but either it does need a parking brake grounded (I've had the X910, Z130, and now Z150 and the first two were moved mute and parking grounded) or my mute wire wasn't in all the way.  I had to tear apart my dash again today because I was locked out of functions when moving.

Posted Apr 25, 2013 · 12:11 UTC#103

For removing it: I filed down the end of a paperclip to make it thin, and then stuck it in into the slot the mute wire was in, towards the middle of the plugs - so the mute wire was closer to the edge. If you look down there you'll see a plastic wedge holding it in place. With the paperclip-wedge blocking that, I shoved another paperclip through the bottom to force the mute wire out.

 

Also ensure it's in all the way when you move it. I thought I had done it but either it does need a parking brake grounded (I've had the X910, Z130, and now Z150 and the first two were moved mute and parking grounded) or my mute wire wasn't in all the way. I had to tear apart my dash again today because I was locked out of functions when moving.

Sounds exactly what I was thinking regarding how to remove the pin.

 

Additionally, I get a sense from your post that after having moved the mute wire and then grounding it along with the parking brake wire that it (the bypass) did work for some time? Only after a few days it stopped. Is that correct ?

Posted Apr 27, 2013 · 13:52 UTC#104

Ok just a quick update

 

I moved the yellow/black strip wire over one slot as pictured here where this guy has the green wire.

 

http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/36184-avic-x850bt-bypass/

 

I just took that mute out and moved it over.

 

Hooking everything up right and post back after with results

 

Update:

So I ran a small test-

I decided to NOT ground the mmw (moved mute wire) and only ground the parking brake wire. I hooked everything else as needed. I have the mmw kind of pulled to the side where I can see that it is not touching anything.

So to clarify, the only thing grounded is the ground wire and the parking brake wire.

 

Here are my steps:

Car is off

Parking brake up

I put a DVD in and started playback. Watching movie now.

I start the car

I release parking brake

I put the car in drive

I drive around the block

Movie is still playing while driving

While driving around the block, I also typed a new destination into my nav using the keypad

Once I entered the address, I resumed the playback of the DVD, all while driving around the block. I was not locked out of anything.

 

What else is supposed to be restricted? Seems like everything is working without having that mmw grounded. Maybe I am missing something but seems like it is ok...

 

For now I am going to leave the mmw to the side and continue monitoring this. If my situation changes, I might ground that wire, but until it acts up, I'm leaving not grounded.

Edited Apr 27, 2013 by 2000se
Posted Apr 27, 2013 · 16:52 UTC#105

I seriously want to scream and throw this harness in the damn trash.  I have tried so hard to release this mute wire and it wont even budge,  arrrrgggggg I am tearing this up trying to get it, I cant believe I haven't just broke it enough to come out already.  OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted Apr 27, 2013 · 17:21 UTC#106

I seriously want to scream and throw this harness in the damn trash.  I have tried so hard to release this mute wire and it wont even budge,  arrrrgggggg I am tearing this up trying to get it, I cant believe I haven't just broke it enough to come out already.  OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was terribly hard to get out. And what will add fuel to the fire is if you don't end up needing it. Sooner than later we'll probably need that wire, but after my experience above, I'm not hooking it up

Posted Apr 27, 2013 · 22:01 UTC#107

Ok update 2:

 

While taking a short drive, got the dreaded 'can't view video while in motion screen" so it appears as though just having the parking brake grounded is not going to cut it. I'll ground the mmw later and report back. We'll see what happens.

Posted Apr 29, 2013 · 00:55 UTC#108

Ok update 2:

 

While taking a short drive, got the dreaded 'can't view video while in motion screen" so it appears as though just having the parking brake grounded is not going to cut it. I'll ground the mmw later and report back. We'll see what happens.

 

Update 3:

So I just got around to actually doing a few more test. Man, this thing is sensitive. I would be stopped in the road and DVD would be playing, as soon as I would let off the brake and start inching forward it would cut off and warn me about it. Tried that a few times. Same results. Secondly, I would stop and be able to enter my route via the keyboard but as soon as I would let off the brake the keyboard would grey out...

 

So.....I took that mmw that I had not grounded yet and grounded. Started playback of the DVD and took off driving. No warning or anything. DVD continued to play. Keyboard did not grey out either. 

 

I will report back after I drive a little while and get up to speed and such, but to now, that seemed to have done the trick.

Posted Apr 29, 2013 · 19:08 UTC#109

did you hook up the speed sensor wire as well?  just curious.

thanks

Posted Apr 30, 2013 · 01:12 UTC#110

did you hook up the speed sensor wire as well? just curious.

thanks

No

Posted Apr 30, 2013 · 01:27 UTC#111

did you do that for a specific reason.  I didn't see anything about that being part of the bypass.  should I not connect that?

Posted Apr 30, 2013 · 17:15 UTC#112

I didn't see anything about that being part of the bypass.  should I not connect that?

 

Its not part of the bypass.

Posted May 01, 2013 · 23:09 UTC#113

I didn't hook it up because I didn't think it was that important ...I might later, but for now I'm good to go.

Posted May 02, 2013 · 04:35 UTC#114

Just as a follow up, I have had both the parking brake wire and bypass pin grounded for several weeks now. I have not seen any parking brake install error messages since the first couple of days that I bypassed.

 

Just wanted to post that the "parking brake lead is incorrectly installed" message is but a distant memory and everything works perfectly (and has for weeks of daily driving). I never tried grounding the bypass only or leaving the speed sensor disconnected. I only grounded the parking brake wire and bypass pin, everything else is connected normally.

Posted May 02, 2013 · 15:54 UTC#115

Thanks for the follow up.  good to know  this is proven now.

Posted May 03, 2013 · 02:47 UTC#116

Just as a follow up, I have had both the parking brake wire and bypass pin grounded for several weeks now. I have not seen any parking brake install error messages since the first couple of days that I bypassed.

 

Just wanted to post that the "parking brake lead is incorrectly installed" message is but a distant memory and everything works perfectly (and has for weeks of daily driving). I never tried grounding the bypass only or leaving the speed sensor disconnected. I only grounded the parking brake wire and bypass pin, everything else is connected normally.

I concur with this. I have had no issues in the past few days driving around.

Posted May 11, 2013 · 06:24 UTC#117

I installed the navigation with just the bypass wire. Did nothing with the parking brake lead. Everything works fantastic- no messages about anything being wired incorrectly! Locked out of nothing. 
The wire status shows "Parking Brake: Off"

Using the VSS signal as well.

Posted May 11, 2013 · 11:55 UTC#118

how long have you had it this way?  

Posted May 12, 2013 · 21:47 UTC#119

3 days now. Seems to be working fine.

Posted May 14, 2013 · 16:52 UTC#120

Noob here...read the post in here...I inserted a wire next to mute wire  and grounded it with light green and took a test drive and it works. Self installed Avic Z150BH. Now I need to get a better ground for unit, I'm getting noise using factor-like harness!

 

Posted May 21, 2013 · 12:12 UTC#121

Just want to update, been using the bypass w/o the parking brake grounded for over a week and a half and it's still working great. 

Posted May 21, 2013 · 20:13 UTC#122

Hello guys,

 

I know someone is gonna come back to me and be like "did you not read the earlier posts" but I am gonna ask it anyway.

 

- should I move the Mute wire over one pin and ground it or should I leave it alone and add another wire on the second pin(green wire in the picture) next to mute and ground it?

- when I receive a call the volume of the music I am playing goes down, it doesn't pause by itself. Does anyone know how to make it pause or stop the music while I am on the call, and unpause it when I disconnect the call.

 

THanks

Posted May 21, 2013 · 23:55 UTC#123

think the mute your talking about is to control the amps, if your not using amps and just want mute, you can adjust the mute settings if I recall correctly .. some set up on how you want to mute things..  

Posted May 22, 2013 · 02:01 UTC#124

think the mute your talking about is to control the amps, if your not using amps and just want mute, you can adjust the mute settings if I recall correctly .. some set up on how you want to mute things..

:?:  :?:  :?:  :roll:  :?:  :?::?:  Ummmm, did you not read this thread :?:  :?::?:  :?:  
Edited May 22, 2013 by RonS
Posted May 22, 2013 · 02:06 UTC#125

Hello guys,

 

I know someone is gonna come back to me and be like "did you not read the earlier posts" but I am gonna ask it anyway.

 

- should I move the Mute wire over one pin and ground it or should I leave it alone and add another wire on the second pin(green wire in the picture) next to mute and ground it?

- when I receive a call the volume of the music I am playing goes down, it doesn't pause by itself. Does anyone know how to make it pause or stop the music while I am on the call, and unpause it when I disconnect the call.

 

THanks

Your choice move vs new wire. AFA pause during a call, no. Just varying degrees of attenuation (at least not on z110 - z140 ... don't have a Z150).

Edited May 22, 2013 by RonS
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