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Pioneer AVH-X8500BHS app radio mode issues with iphone 5

By mattesonb · Apr 10, 2013in Pioneer AVH Series💬 97 posts👁️ 54,239 views
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Posted Apr 10, 2013 · 04:52 UTC#1

Yesterday i installed an avh-x8500bhs and everything seems to work except for some iphone functions. if anyone has gotten the iphone 5 to work on app mode please help me out.

 

i am running the usb to lightning cable and an hdmi cable to the apple video cable to my iphone 5, when i click on the appradio button it launches the "appradio" app and ask for permission on my phone to do so.  at this point the radio just mirrors my iphone screen no matter what application i am using.  there is no touch screen usability on the head unit itself, and the carmediaplayer app just show a picture of a cable being plugged in when i launch it.

 

at this point i dont know what to do

Posted Apr 10, 2013 · 05:13 UTC#2

Yesterday i installed an avh-x8500bhs and everything seems to work except for some iphone functions. if anyone has gotten the iphone 5 to work on app mode please help me out.

 

i am running the usb to lightning cable and an hdmi cable to the apple video cable

 

Are you using the Apple Lightning Digital AV Adapter?

 

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD826ZM/A/lightning-digital-av-adapter?fnode=3a

Posted Apr 10, 2013 · 06:18 UTC#4

so i re-set the unit and tried everything all over again, still stuck in the screen mirroring

 

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Posted Apr 10, 2013 · 18:04 UTC#5

some one please help

Posted Apr 10, 2013 · 19:15 UTC#6

what software is your unit running? mine is on .08.19

Posted Apr 10, 2013 · 20:51 UTC#7

Where did you buy your Apple adapter and what did you pay for it?

Posted Apr 11, 2013 · 07:45 UTC#8

Where did you buy your Apple adapter and what did you pay for it?

i purchased it from apple through amazon for $39.99, its an authentic adapter and it plays video out on my tv flawlessly

Edited Apr 11, 2013 by mattesonb
Posted Apr 11, 2013 · 14:34 UTC#9

The biggest problem I'm having with this radio and my iphone5 is it recognizing the iphone.  I have to plug it in then check to see if it connected.  It doesn't then I reconnect it.  I have to do this several times and then it will eventually recognize it well some times.

 

Are you sure in settings you have it set to Iphone(digital av)?  I know obvious question.

 

I have noticed that I have more luck if I have app radio app running on the iphone but minimized and on the home screen when I connect.  It will then ask to allow it switch on the iphone and I click allow.  Maybe try that.

 

What I can tell you from my experience is it's very unstable to the point of unusable in my opinion.  Just this morning I decided to unplug the lightening AV, switch to the "others" setting and plug straight usb to lightening.  This puts it back to a regular usb ipod.  Pandora and playing music from the iPhone works good.  I'm going this route until maybe they update the firmware.

 

Keep us posted and let me know if you have any tips on getting the unit to recognize the iphone.

Posted Apr 11, 2013 · 19:23 UTC#10

The biggest problem I'm having with this radio and my iphone5 is it recognizing the iphone.  I have to plug it in then check to see if it connected.  It doesn't then I reconnect it.  I have to do this several times and then it will eventually recognize it well some times.

 

Are you sure in settings you have it set to Iphone(digital av)?  I know obvious question.

 

I have noticed that I have more luck if I have app radio app running on the iphone but minimized and on the home screen when I connect.  It will then ask to allow it switch on the iphone and I click allow.  Maybe try that.

 

What I can tell you from my experience is it's very unstable to the point of unusable in my opinion.  Just this morning I decided to unplug the lightening AV, switch to the "others" setting and plug straight usb to lightening.  This puts it back to a regular usb ipod.  Pandora and playing music from the iPhone works good.  I'm going this route until maybe they update the firmware.

 

Keep us posted and let me know if you have any tips on getting the unit to recognize the iphone.

its definitely set to digital AV because it wont even let me use the app button on the head unit until that is switched over.

 

at this point i may just switch back to regular usb until they update this crap

 

also what software version is your unit running?

Edited Apr 11, 2013 by mattesonb
Posted Apr 11, 2013 · 22:22 UTC#11

My Iphone 5 works perfect with my avh-x8500bhs

I was having same trouble you are till I turned App connection setting to

Iphone (Digital AV)

 

Wasn't east to turn that setting on I emailed pioneer, read manual, and lucked out and it changed, still not sure how I did it

Posted Apr 11, 2013 · 22:29 UTC#12

It will look like this when changed

If I can't load pic with phone i will use pc later

Edited Apr 11, 2013 by Jas0n
Posted Apr 11, 2013 · 22:33 UTC#13

Remember to use USB 1 not USB 2

 

But your screen was same shit I was going thro till I changed that setting

And same problems too

Pioneer told me this radio was shipped with right firmware

Edited Apr 11, 2013 by Jas0n
Posted Apr 11, 2013 · 23:10 UTC#14

I'm running 8.19. iPhone is at 6.1.3.

 

I turned back on apps. When I did this I got the same condition as the OP. I then disconnected the iPhone, closed and reopened the app on the iPhone, plugged it back in and then it worked correctly.

 

T switch between others and iphone(digital AV). You have to turn off Bluetooth on the phone disconnect the iPhone and then you can go into settings and change it. It states that right on the screen.

Posted Apr 11, 2013 · 23:44 UTC#15

I'm running 8.19. iPhone is at 6.1.3.

 

I turned back on apps. When I did this I got the same condition as the OP. I then disconnected the iPhone, closed and reopened the app on the iPhone, plugged it back in and then it worked correctly.

 

T switch between others and iphone(digital AV). You have to turn off Bluetooth on the phone disconnect the iPhone and then you can go into settings and change it. It states that right on the screen.

 

 

yes it is correctly switched over to iphone (digital AV), i spoke to 2 techs at pioneer yesterday and both said the unit shipped with the correct firmware, today i spoke to another representative and he is telling me that it wont work until and update in the end of april (the guy was an idiot)

 

my phone is jailbroken on 6.1.2

 

unfortunately i dont have access to an unjailbroken iphone 5 right now to test it it is my phone.

 

are you using any type of bypass or properly hardwired to the hand brake

Edited Apr 12, 2013 by mattesonb
Posted Apr 12, 2013 · 00:34 UTC#16
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Posted Apr 12, 2013 · 00:36 UTC#17

sry that's not to big of a pic

im using a ground switch

turn it back and forth as needed

Posted Apr 12, 2013 · 00:48 UTC#18

I'm using bypass:  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00A9AQPUU/ref=pe_175190_21431760_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_1

 

I just went to check again to see if it would connect and it did right away.  I installed a few apps and it froze on the apple install screen on the pioneer screen.  Almost like when a PC locks up.  I pressed mode, disconnected the iphone and was back in the mode of not being able to connect.  I turned off bluetooth on my iphone and then turned it back on.  I was then able to connect right away.

 

Are you launching the AppRadio iphone app before you connect?  If your not doing this I would try that.  You might also try deleting the bluetooth connection on both the iphone and the 8500.  Then pair and setup the connection again.  The more I play with this thing the more important I think that bluetooth connection is to making this thing work correctly.

Posted Apr 12, 2013 · 01:26 UTC#19

It shouldn't be this hard. Between the unnecessary $70 'required' cable and AppRadio issues, 1) Pioneer apparently missed every case study of the past 20 years on how to NOT do something, and 2) seems if you have an i5 you are better off saving your $$.

 

Wish I'd trusted my gut before dropping $700+ on this crap. I do like the radio, but $700 just to have an HD radio that doesn't light up my car with crazy flashing lights?

Posted Apr 12, 2013 · 01:56 UTC#20

before I changed app setting the radio wouldn't sync with phone. all I could do was mirror phone screen

now I plug in phone, sometimes I have to hit ground switch then it syncs with phone and I push allow on phone and it works. Are you running appradio ext? it doesn't work yet right with iphone 5

are you using hdmi cable? Im really at a loss if you switched it to iphone digital out and it will not still work.

Edited Apr 12, 2013 by Jas0n
Posted Apr 12, 2013 · 02:06 UTC#21

one last idea try

power iphone off, then turn it back on. this takes care of glitches sometimes with the iphone if this doesn't help I don't know what else to do.

if you click on that pic I post it should show you a bigger pic

Posted Apr 12, 2013 · 03:56 UTC#22

i have tried almost everything, it took me a while to figure out how to set it to digital AV (i didn't hit source to off)  

 

at that point i thought i had it figured out until the actual appmode didn't work.

 

i havent tried completely deleting the blue tooth profile on both the head unit and the phone, so i will try that next.

 

i am using this bypass http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007QE03IM/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 but it appears to be the same thing as the one sensible is using.

Posted Apr 12, 2013 · 04:39 UTC#23

ok bluetooth reset did not work.

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this is what i get when i open the radio control app after the unit asks for permission to communicate with the phone and i hit allow

 

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at this point it seems like one of three things are incorrect;

 

 

1. my iphone 5 is the issue and i need to restore it (i would be forced to update to ios 6.1.3 which i wouldn't be able to jailbreak) 

 

2. the bypass i am using is causing and issue ( im using http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007QE03IM/ref=oh_details_o07_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 )

 

3. my unit is defective (seems very unlikely that everything works perfectly except appmode)

 

tomorrow i am going to try removing the bypass and hardwiring the parking brake and seeing if that fixes the issue.  if not then it looks like my phone or the unit are the issue.

Edited Apr 12, 2013 by mattesonb
Posted Apr 12, 2013 · 06:27 UTC#24

Before you restore your phone try using different iPhone 5 app radio is free anyone can download it then take it off their phone

I hear that the ones who did the 6.0 jailbreak are not going to waste time jail breaking iOS 6.1.3. They are waiting for ios7

Only restore phone as last thing. Might be awhile till we get a jailbreak again

Tomorrow I will check out all my settings see if I missed something

Your phone is not in safe mode is it, any tweaks from cydia that would keep a app from opening?

 

I'm not saying I'm any good at this stuff but I have been jail breaking since 2nd iPod touch

Been running pioneer radios for 14 years. I know just a little bit despite my bad spelling

 

If all fails I could put a vid on YouTube of my 8500 working with the iPhone 5

 

I'm at a real loss why yours isn't working

Posted Apr 12, 2013 · 07:35 UTC#25

Before you restore your phone try using different iPhone 5 app radio is free anyone can download it then take it off their phone

I hear that the ones who did the 6.0 jailbreak are not going to waste time jail breaking iOS 6.1.3. They are waiting for ios7

Only restore phone as last thing. Might be awhile till we get a jailbreak again

Tomorrow I will check out all my settings see if I missed something

Your phone is not in safe mode is it, any tweaks from cydia that would keep a app from opening?

 

I'm not saying I'm any good at this stuff but I have been jail breaking since 2nd iPod touch

Been running pioneer radios for 14 years. I know just a little bit despite my bad spelling

 

If all fails I could put a vid on YouTube of my 8500 working with the iPhone 5

 

I'm at a real loss why yours isn't working

 

 

i definitely appreciate any help, ive spent so much time trying to get this to work that im completely at my wits end.

 

i really dont want to restore as you are correct in that there wont be another jailbreak till ios 7

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