Is there a way to upgrade a Z140 to the 2013 maps without the iPhone5 update? I have a 4S and dont plan on the 5 so all I want is the map update, sounds like the i5 update messes a bunch of stuff up.

Is there a way to upgrade a Z140 to the 2013 maps without the iPhone5 update? I have a 4S and dont plan on the 5 so all I want is the map update, sounds like the i5 update messes a bunch of stuff up.

The free z140 update from pioneerelectronics.com is only for iPhone lightning functionality and is not needed in your case. Just go to navigation.com and purchase the 2013 map update for $120 or perhaps someone has already cracked it and posted the rar somewhere.

All I'm saying is that the Apple VGA Adapter is a video only device and it is not capable of handling Audio or Touch control data. 

The VGA adapter has lightning pass-through. Do you know, if it is possible to connect and operate both the VGA adapter and the lightning-to-30-pin adapter at the same time using this pass-through connector? The reason for the incompatibility of the Iphone 5 with the 30-pin cable of the avics is that there is no composite video output via the lighntning-to-30-pin adapter. However, audio and touch control signals are available with the 30-pin adapter. So, the solution could be to add composite video to the 30-pin connector via the VGA-adapter and a VGA to composite video conversion box. There is this 3,5mm plug at pioneer's 30-pin cable. One of the 4 pins on this plug is composite video. If we are lucky, all that needs to be done is to build an adapter cable to inject the composite video signal from the conversion box at this 3,5mm plug. However, this solution requires that the lightning bus is able to handle both the VGA adapter and the 30-pin adapter at the same time. It is also not clear, if the appradio app will work in this scenario.

The lightning port on the VGA Adapter provides pass through charging only.  It does not pass data through.  I tried it out by first disabling iTunes WiFi sync and connecting the following together:
Computer -> Lightning to USB adapter -> Lighting to VGA adapter -> iPhone.  The phone simply will not sync with iTunes and the computer detected the VGA adapter as a "Charging Device"

I've also tried this with a USB speaker.  It didn't work when I added a VGA adapter to the mix.

The Firmware updates are only to add Video and AppMode though.  I have a Z140 now (without the updated firmware) and my iPod Gen5 worked fine to listen to Music.  AppMode and Video are disabled.

Has anyone heard if the z130 will be getting an iphone 5 update? Heaven forbid I spend $400 on a new phone and not $800 on a new HU too so that they will work together!

So today I took on the idea of doing the firmware update on my Z140. Everything went smooth right up to the point of step 9 of the instruction set. At this point the screen showed progress as complete but the unit never rebooted. As a matter of fact, 30 minutes later and the screen appears to be locked at this screen and nothing seems to be able to shut it off. So does anyone have a solution for this issue? I have submitted a support ticket to Pioneer but sometimes they are not exactly the quickest to reply.

*EDIT* So after waiting for quite sometime I figured I would shut the truck off and back on to see what happened. This reset the unit then I figured out how to eject the SD Card while in the firmware update screen. Bottom line, nothing was hurt and everything appears to work as advertised.

is anyone running the z140 4.6 or 5.1 or the z150 1.03 or 1.06 firmware in the z130bt or similar model? does everything work as it should?