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Well..Im done. Pioneer are liars plain and simple.

By GHII · Mar 26, 2014in NEX Series💬 45 posts👁️ 23,867 views
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Posted Mar 26, 2014 · 22:50 UTC#1

I've installed my 7000, and noticed the "My Vehicle" was greyed...even after being install with the iDatalink Maestro.  They made a BIG whoop dee doo about being Maestro compatible this year and it was THE reason I chose this combination and not last years 8" Alpine with a standard harness.  I called iDatalink and I was told the Pioneers idatalink firmware doesn't exist/is not ready and EVEN WHEN IT IS WILL NOT DISPLAY ANY DATA (Gauges, tire pressure, batt levels, etc..) EVER, he said the Pioneer units can only do retention, ie steering wheel controls and onstar/sync.

 

This is the exact quote stated from CES 2014:

 

"And last but not least, we added in a feature from a company called iDatalink, and it works with their Maestro module, which for the first time lets this (NEX) talk to your car. You can see things like TIRE PRESSURE, LIKE VEHICLE STATUS INFORMATION THAT WOULD USUALLY DISPLAY ON YOUR VEHICLE."

 

 

That is a direct quote from pioneer.  LIES. iDatalink says no and the NEX units will never be able to that.  So you're telling me Pioneer added the Maestro input in the back just for steering wheel controls???  And the My Vehicle button will always sit greyed out never being able to be used?  The guy at IDL said only the Kenwoods and this years Alpines would do the exact thing Pioneer said the nex units would do.

 

 

Top this off with the 8000 shipping fiascos Im done with Pioneer, can't wait for Alpine to release their units in june.

Edited Mar 26, 2014 by GHII
Posted Mar 30, 2014 · 15:07 UTC#2

Nobody has wanted to use the idatalink module to get car data displayed?  Surely I can't be the only one...

Posted Mar 30, 2014 · 16:36 UTC#3

I get my 8000 installed tomorrow, I think that feature would be cool, but it's not a deal breaker for me if it doesn't work. I just hope the rest works as advertised, or some quick fixes in the near future.

Posted Mar 30, 2014 · 17:01 UTC#4

The reason I wanted it was because the 2013 and lesser GM models look so outdated and non-techie..And just putting a standard DVD unit in has a very aftermarket feel to it...By integrating car data into the nav unit it unifies the car and head unit and makes it feel factory and look like one of the newer GM models.

Posted Apr 02, 2014 · 13:29 UTC#5

I talked to Brian over at Idatalink and he told me that once Pioneer releases a firmware update it will display all the vehicle information (guages, tire pressure etc...)

Posted Apr 02, 2014 · 14:01 UTC#6

I talked to Brian over at Idatalink and he told me that once Pioneer releases a firmware update it will display all the vehicle information (guages, tire pressure etc...)

 

Thats good to hear, when I called idatalink I was told that even when Pioneer did a firmware update the Pioneer units would never be capable of showing data.  He told me only Kenwood and the new Alpines would be capable of that.  

Posted Apr 02, 2014 · 15:39 UTC#7

Thats good to hear, when I called idatalink I was told that even when Pioneer did a firmware update the Pioneer units would never be capable of showing data.  He told me only Kenwood and the new Alpines would be capable of that.  

 

That is what I was told by a Pioneer trainer but he was unsure. I trust the guys at idatalink a little more tho. I guess we shall see when the firmware comes out.

Posted Apr 03, 2014 · 08:41 UTC#8

It stands to reason that a firmware update from Pioneer will fix this issue. This is common to release a unit before its ready with the intention to update later. Been done many times by Pioneer so try and relax and just see what happens.

Posted Apr 04, 2014 · 13:20 UTC#9

Guys I owe you an apology. Pioneer will not have the full features like Alpine and Kenwood.

 

2014 NEX models – AVIC-8000NEX,  AVIC-7000NEX, AVIC-6000NEX, AVIC-5000NEX, AVH-4000NEX.  These units will be compatible with all of our solutions to retain factory systems (except our Mustang dash kit), but they do not have gauges, climate control (this is why you can’t use the MUS1), vehicle info or parking assist screens.

 

Brian Murphy

Posted Apr 04, 2014 · 15:11 UTC#10

Guys I owe you an apology. Pioneer will not have the full features like Alpine and Kenwood.

 

2014 NEX models – AVIC-8000NEX,  AVIC-7000NEX, AVIC-6000NEX, AVIC-5000NEX, AVH-4000NEX.  These units will be compatible with all of our solutions to retain factory systems (except our Mustang dash kit), but they do not have gauges, climate control (this is why you can’t use the MUS1), vehicle info or parking assist screens.

 

Brian Murphy

 

Thanks for clearing that up, which is exactly why Im buying an Alpine when they release in June.  Pioneer should be ashamed to have touted iDatalink Maestro compatibility with vehicle data displayed and then completely not have that happen, even with future updates, ridiculous.  

 

Brian - Why did Pioneer go through all the trouble of making the NEX units Maestro compatible if they knew it was never going to happen?  They even kept the "My Vehicle" button in the source menu..which now you tell me will always sit greyed out.   Did they ever have an operating unit that showed vehicle data?  Were they just simulating this function at CES? 

Posted Apr 06, 2014 · 12:32 UTC#15

Per your complaints on the navi, have you selected "Text to Speech" in the navi settings?

Posted Apr 06, 2014 · 12:34 UTC#16

Guys I owe you an apology. Pioneer will not have the full features like Alpine and Kenwood.

 

2014 NEX models – AVIC-8000NEX,  AVIC-7000NEX, AVIC-6000NEX, AVIC-5000NEX, AVH-4000NEX.  These units will be compatible with all of our solutions to retain factory systems (except our Mustang dash kit), but they do not have gauges, climate control (this is why you can’t use the MUS1), vehicle info or parking assist screens.

 

Brian Murphy

And how do you know this? How do you know that Pioneer can't add these features with a firmware update.

Posted Apr 06, 2014 · 12:36 UTC#17

Sadly these kinds of disappoints are nothing new for Pioneer. They have disappointed many in this way with nearly every head unit they have released. I actually warned everyone on this site months ago as the hype was building that this might happen.

Posted Apr 06, 2014 · 13:21 UTC#18

Per your complaints on the navi, have you selected "Text to Speech" in the navi settings?

 

you are correct, I did find the TTS voice and now it announces street names.

I have corrected the vid

Edited Apr 06, 2014 by CuznVinny
Posted Apr 06, 2014 · 15:09 UTC#19

And how do you know this? How do you know that Pioneer can't add these features with a firmware update.

 

 

He works at ADS, which is the company who makes idatalink, and they test all different units that want to be idatalink compatible so they would know what is and isn't going to work.  Pioneer would have to be working closely with them if these features were going to be implemented, and according to ADS, that's not happening or going to happen.  I feel like Pioneer owes me a refund, I've already had to pay over a $100 restocking fee for my 7000 because of Pioneers lack of 8000 info..Now I have a 8000 I have to get rid of so I can get the new 9" Alpine that actually provides these features.

Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 13:23 UTC#20

I can't speak to why they did not have gauges in the first release of their product. That was their decision and not ours. When their firmware update is ready they will cover integration like Sync, Onstar and U Connect.

Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 18:51 UTC#21

So does that mean to you that it could still happen.

Posted Apr 07, 2014 · 20:41 UTC#22

retaining my Sync its the one thing I wouldn't have cared if it kept. i really bugs me that the fad today is just release a product before its ready and "hey we'll fix it in a few weeks or months with a firmware update". I don't remember getting a discount or compensation for being a beta tester. We payed top dollar to get these units when there released and they roll out missing features. FAIL

Posted Apr 08, 2014 · 12:36 UTC#23

So does that mean to you that it could still happen.

No, the generation one radios will not have gauges.

Posted Apr 09, 2014 · 01:23 UTC#24

How did you change your background to look like fire, I can't figure that out, I have two floating balls of light, would like to see what other options there are

Posted Apr 09, 2014 · 01:45 UTC#25

No, the generation one radios will not have gauges.

So why is that? Is there a hardware limitation? I ask because if the hardware is there, why could they not implement this through a firmware update? Especially sense they have claimed they will support this. 

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