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AppRadio 4 with CarPlay just announced - finally...

By meall · Oct 02, 2014in AppRadio, AppRadio 2, AppRadio 3💬 159 posts👁️ 36,472 views
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Posted Oct 15, 2014 · 21:25 UTC#26

It is for carplay. You need to same leads as before if you want to use Appradio.

 

One minor annoyance is you can'd just plug it into the other lead to choose between carplay and AR - You have to go into settings and change a preference and reconnect the phone.

 

That said, I'd imagine Carplay is going to kill off Appradio as it becomes pushed as a standard.

Posted Oct 15, 2014 · 21:33 UTC#27

That all looks cool, I'm sold, is it just a standard apple lightning cable you need to use?

I was going to ask the same question.

Posted Oct 15, 2014 · 21:40 UTC#28

That said, I'd imagine Carplay is going to kill off Appradio as it becomes pushed as a standard.

App Radio was a nice try, but it has no future and no past. So the few apps that supported it will eventually switch to CarPlay if API are available. Why support a non-standard third party API if there is one from Apple that will work on any third party hardware.

Posted Oct 15, 2014 · 21:42 UTC#29

Cool, I can't see any use for appradio mode with car play. Seems to be as cheap as €350 in parts of Europe, busy day in the office tomorrow finding one in stock for a decent price.

Posted Oct 15, 2014 · 22:48 UTC#30

Cool, I can't see any use for appradio mode with car play.

Totally with you on this. CarPlay is the way to go. Especially when Pioneer did not even badder updating their AppRadio software in time for iOS 8...

 

On my app radio 2, I selected the mode to be with iPhone 4 and I use a 30 pin to lightning adaptor, and use my 5s as an iPod. And since switching back and forth between the 2 modes sucks, it it in iPhone 4 mode all the time...

Posted Oct 15, 2014 · 23:13 UTC#31

I think ill wait til more places in the US stock the AR4.  Seems the European version doesnt have Pandora which is available in Australia.

Seems you can only buy it straight from Pioneer and one store on Amazon at the moment.  Quite strange nobody else has stock.

Posted Oct 16, 2014 · 01:15 UTC#32

I think ill wait til more places in the US stock the AR4.  Seems the European version doesnt have Pandora which is available in Australia.

Seems you can only buy it straight from Pioneer and one store on Amazon at the moment.  Quite strange nobody else has stock.

Haven't found any online Canadian stores with a listing of it. Too new?

Posted Oct 19, 2014 · 20:01 UTC#33

i've just bought and installed an Appradio 4...upgraded from Appradio 3...so far i'm impressed!

 

Spotify is buggy as hell which we all know...hoping tomorrows update to iOS 8.1 fixes a few issues.

 

One question i can answer is, a standard usb to lightning cable works fine. i bought one of the amazon basic ones.

 

if you guys have any questions then let me know..

Posted Oct 19, 2014 · 20:08 UTC#34

i've just bought and installed an Appradio 4...upgraded from Appradio 3...so far i'm impressed!

 

Spotify is buggy as hell which we all know...hoping tomorrows update to iOS 8.1 fixes a few issues.

 

One question i can answer is, a standard usb to lightning cable works fine. i bought one of the amazon basic ones.

 

if you guys have any questions then let me know..

 

Cool! I do not use Spotify, so should not affect me at all. 

 

Usual question: how much you pay for it? and where did you buy it?

Posted Oct 19, 2014 · 21:03 UTC#35

Spotify seems to work fine here in the UK, although you can't search which is a bit annoying.

Posted Oct 20, 2014 · 15:03 UTC#36

I still haven't found any Canadian retailers or online sellers for the AR4.  Anyone out there know of any Canadian release?  Timing?

 

Also, I notice on the back of both the AR4 and the NEX4000 there is that yellow RGB plug in that can be used for iPhone VGA connection AND Navigation ready hideaway box.  Now, the navigation ready feature is listed on NEX4000 but not on the AR4, yet the connector is identical.  Anyone who has AR4 able to test this out for me?  Would love to have a navigation box add on that is video only and have CarPlay as music, phone source etc.

Posted Oct 20, 2014 · 18:56 UTC#37

I still haven't found any Canadian retailers or online sellers for the AR4.  Anyone out there know of any Canadian release?  Timing?

I've been looking again and again, but nothing yet.

 

Even Pioneer .ca still shows the App Radio 3 as the current model.

 

Also, I notice on the back of both the AR4 and the NEX4000 there is that yellow RGB plug in that can be used for iPhone VGA connection AND Navigation ready hideaway box.  Now, the navigation ready feature is listed on NEX4000 but not on the AR4, yet the connector is identical.  Anyone who has AR4 able to test this out for me?  Would love to have a navigation box add on that is video only and have CarPlay as music, phone source etc.

Sometimes I wonder if an NEX model wouldn't be a better choice. They are a bit pricier, but they look so much more powerful. And someone pointed out on this forum that the 7000NEX can be found at around $700 usd on some sites, and already includes the navigation maps.

Posted Oct 20, 2014 · 19:20 UTC#38

i've just bought and installed an Appradio 4...upgraded from Appradio 3...so far i'm impressed!

 

Spotify is buggy as hell which we all know...hoping tomorrows update to iOS 8.1 fixes a few issues.

 

One question i can answer is, a standard usb to lightning cable works fine. i bought one of the amazon basic ones.

 

if you guys have any questions then let me know..

 

I have a couple questions that hopefully you can help with. Thanks.

 

  • Since Carplay is inherently made for using while driving, is the feature set identical whether you're parked or driving? Does anything get blocked out? 
  • Can you get any video playback, such as a video podcast while using Carplay? If not, does that change if you have the car parked? 
  • Is there any need/desire to have a bypass if all you want to use is Carplay?
Posted Oct 20, 2014 · 19:48 UTC#39

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I have a couple questions that hopefully you can help with. Thanks.

 

  • Since Carplay is inherently made for using while driving, is the feature set identical whether you're parked or driving? Does anything get blocked out?
  • Can you get any video playback, such as a video podcast while using Carplay? If not, does that change if you have the car parked?
  • Is there any need/desire to have a bypass if all you want to use is Carplay?

Think about it: video while driving and if I was a police officer seeing you, you'll be out in prison for a year and 2 more years without driving. That's a dangerous situation for every one on the road with you.

Posted Oct 20, 2014 · 21:00 UTC#40

 

 

Sometimes I wonder if an NEX model wouldn't be a better choice. They are a bit pricier, but they look so much more powerful. And someone pointed out on this forum that the 7000NEX can be found at around $700 usd on some sites, and already includes the navigation maps.

 

 

Ya, for me it's not necessarily required to have the built in Navigation as I can use CarPlay for that.  I want to hook up an Android Navigation box for more than just Google Maps and can get one that has the RGB + touch interface cable that replicates the functionality of the Pioneer U260 Navigation Box.  Anyway, wondering if anyone knows if this will work on the AR4.....I like the overall look of the AR4 with the flat front and clean lines...I have the NEX4000 in my car now and hate that bottom stickout button bar...

Edited Oct 20, 2014 by swyner
Posted Oct 21, 2014 · 01:53 UTC#41

Think about it: video while driving and if I was a police officer seeing you, you'll be out in prison for a year and 2 more years without driving. That's a dangerous situation for every one on the road with you.

 

meall, I appreciate your concern and I actually AGREE with what you said. You completely misunderstood my questions so please, get off your high horse. 

 

To clarify, I just want to know if Carplay can TECHNICALLY play videos. I frequently watch video podcasts because I'm an intellectual who likes to learn about things. If Carplay can't even play videos at all (like when parked), then I'm not likely to want it. The question about if a bypass is needed/desired is hypothetical. Bypasses are openly discussed here. I just want to understand how Carplay works a little better. Curiousity is OK, isn't it? It's like wondering where the best place is to hide dead bodies would be. It doesn't make you a murderer.  :mrgreen:

Edited Oct 21, 2014 by rockthebeef
Posted Oct 21, 2014 · 23:33 UTC#42

meall, I appreciate your concern and I actually AGREE with what you said. You completely misunderstood my questions so please, get off your high horse. 

Sorry, may have overreacted a bit here!

 

Your question about Car Play makes sense. I never read anything about video support and Car Play. Can't say either way. Maybe someone who have the new AP4 can tell?

Posted Oct 22, 2014 · 20:24 UTC#43

Great competition for the AppRadio 4 - It looks like the Alpine ILX-007 will be $599.99 at Crutchfield. A Google search shows a Crutchfield link, but the link is broken. Luckily there is enough info to tease us.

 

From what I've gathered, this unit will only be 3" deep, conveniently leaving enough space behind the HU for one of Alpine's little outboard amplifiers. That is also exciting. 

 

Here's a pic of the Google search results. 

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Posted Oct 22, 2014 · 21:14 UTC#44

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Posted Oct 22, 2014 · 22:48 UTC#45

Yup, that's one of the images floating around the internet. This is supposed to come out by late this month...

Posted Oct 23, 2014 · 08:14 UTC#46

I think after all the messing Pioneer do I'd go with an Alpine unit anyday once the price is comparable.

Posted Oct 23, 2014 · 15:57 UTC#47

I think after all the messing Pioneer do I'd go with an Alpine unit anyday once the price is comparable.

They messed up with their own technology (App Radio) which is already a messed up nightmare. If they can keep away from it and invest in Car Play it may end up better in the end.

Posted Oct 23, 2014 · 17:47 UTC#48

And they messed up up by using a 6.2" screen on the AR4. That was a bad move in my opinion. To set them apart, they should have looked into cramming something larger than 7" if possible, maybe by using a bezel-free screen, but that may be too costly so I would have been happy with a 7".  Luckily the Alpine will be 7", but it will also not have bluetooth, so you must have an iPhone with lightning and iOS8 to work. That could be trouble for multiple drivers with different phone models. 

Posted Oct 23, 2014 · 21:10 UTC#49

And they messed up up by using a 6.2" screen on the AR4. That was a bad move in my opinion. To set them apart, they should have looked into cramming something larger than 7" if possible, maybe by using a bezel-free screen, but that may be too costly so I would have been happy with a 7".  Luckily the Alpine will be 7", but it will also not have bluetooth, so you must have an iPhone with lightning and iOS8 to work. That could be trouble for multiple drivers with different phone models.

 

I still have to see it to figure out if the 0.8" less is a real disaster, but they probably had to cut somewhere to add new features such as the BT functionality you're talking about. Other than that, someone can invest a bit more and get a 7000NEX that is 7" and have built in GPS/navigation software.

 

Anyone with a AR4 that upgraded from AR2-3 can comment on the smaller screen?

Posted Oct 24, 2014 · 15:48 UTC#50

This is the difference. It's pretty significant in my opinion.

 

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