Hello, all. I saw the post below my signature on another forum (a Yahoo! Group) about how to bypass the N3 and I just thought I'd pass it on to anyone who was thinking about doing the bypass but was not sure how on the AVIC-N3.

Also, I have a question. Can I achieve the parking brake ground by simply pulling up the brake "not enough" to actually engage the brake but enough to turn on the light in my gauge cluster? Supposedly there's a switch that the E-Brake lever presses in when the E-Brake is pulled, and I can turn on the "BRAKE" light (engage the switch) w/o actually braking. I'm wondering b/c I won't dare install my own equipment (afraid to mess up or do messy install) and my installer will not do the bypass for me. Wouldn't it be obvious I was bypassing if I told him to ground the brake wire?

Thanks, and sorry for long post,
MIKE

--- In [email protected], "whtcrxghst"
wrote:
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> The N3 really is just a switch. Pull the sticker, slide the switch,
> ground the light green parking brake wire and you are good to go.
> Obviously, you will void your warranty, just like people did when
> they soldered their N2.

I'd be curious to see if the recently discovered bypass for the AVIC-Z1 works on the N3. More details here:
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67&start=15

I don't know... I'll definitely be trying it, though. Otherwise, I figure I'll live with the limitations, at least until warranty runs out anyway, then it won't matter. I'll flip the switch on the unit, install a switch to ground the parking brake wire when needed, and flip when needed. If it works, I'll try both turning lights on/off and simply toggling the momentary brights switch three times (less suspicious to neighbors, lol).

i made my n3 think that my brake was always on but that still did not work. If you are going to do it that way you will have to create a switch that turns the GPS antenna and the speed sensor wire off. then you have to reset your unit ever time you turn it on or off. This is what i have gathered by making it think my brake was on. your best bet is to flip the switch for the bypass. I did and it works grate.

Can anyone confirm that the light-flip trick works or doesn't work on the AVIC-N3? Still haven't had my N3 installed yet. (Waiting on a GEX-P5700TV.)

binderim is right. i have the handbrake bypass installed, but once the car is moving above about 4 mph, the nav and dvd functions quit. since the nav system is internal, it knows when the car is moving so it locks out these functions even though it thinks the brake is applied. i dont know about bypassing this. i thought about putting a switch in to toggle the gps antenna on/off, but i imagine you would have to do that for the speed pulse wire as well. im still glad i have an N3 tho. i love it

MY Installer removed the sticker and flipped the switch..The Unit works great....

LILJOHN said:

MY Installer removed the sticker and flipped the switch..The Unit works great....

Did you/he also ground the brake wire, install a switch or anything else?

wheres this umm switch everyone seems to be talking about??
triz

It's under a sticker that says something about the warranty will be voided if you remove this sticker - I think the sticker's yellow (haven't seen it yet, haven't opened my N3). It probably at least says "VOID WARRANTY" or something to that effect.

It should be on the Bottom of the AVIC-N3. The N2 and N1 didn't have the switch, but two leads you soldered together (carefully, lol).

so flip switch
and ground brake wire and good to go?

Mikey38654 I will call my installer and see if there is anything else that he did other than Flip the switch.. The unit plays DVD's while driving forward and there has been no adverse effects to the N3..ALL Navigations systems are operable when driving forward also..No need to stop and apply the parking brake.

Yep

trizza said:

so flip switch
and ground brake wire and good to go?

trizza said:

wheres this umm switch everyone seems to be talking about??
triz

Its a silver sticker that says void on it. It blend in with the unit. here is a photo.

LILJOHN said:

Mikey38654 I will call my installer and see if there is anything else that he did other than Flip the switch.. The unit plays DVD's while driving forward and there has been no adverse effects to the N3..ALL Navigations systems are operable when driving forward also..No need to stop and apply the parking brake.

John, were you able to find anything out?

Thanks man!
Rich

Ok,,, I spoke with my installer and he grounded the brake wire to a ground wire in the harness.Then he removed the sticker flipped the switch and all systems functions while moving forward...THis is what I had installed..

Avic n3
GEX-P10XMT XM Digital Satellite Data & Audio Receiver,
NDC-B1 Pioneer back up camera

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LILJOHN said:

Ok,,, I spoke with my installer and he grounded the brake wire to a ground wire in the harness.Then he removed the sticker flipped the switch and all systems functions while moving forward...THis is what I had installed..

Avic n3
GEX-P10XMT XM Digital Satellite Data & Audio Receiver,
NDC-B1 Pioneer back up camera

You are a gentleman and a scholar! I am getting those three things along with the newer ipod adaptor and tv tuner :) Goodies!!

I was thinking about this. Rather than hooking the parking brake bypass, what about hooking to the brake petal switch. Would this have the desired effect of letting functions work when stopped at a stop light? For example if I am stopped at a light I could enter a new address without setting the parking brake.

Yes i believe so. My dad has the n2 and his parking brake is grounded and he can watch movies and use nav futures when going under 5mph

GUEST---"It should be on the Bottom of the AVIC-N3. The N2 and N1 didn't have the switch, but two leads you soldered together (carefully, lol)."


Anybody know what leads he's talking about for the N1?

GUEST---"It should be on the Bottom of the AVIC-N3. The N2 and N1 didn't have the switch, but two leads you soldered together (carefully, lol)."


Anybody know what leads he's talking about for the N1?

No, there are no points to solder on the N1. If you are using the CNDV40 software, you just have to ground the parking brake wire. Don't think it can be bypassed with newer software

ArizonaF150N1 said:

GUEST---"It should be on the Bottom of the AVIC-N3. The N2 and N1 didn't have the switch, but two leads you soldered together (carefully, lol)."


Anybody know what leads he's talking about for the N1?

I count not stant it anymore the bypass was a problem. I know one person who pulled off the road to operate their NAV system and got a ticket.... The officer thought it was odd that someone would pull off where they did and decided to investigate. The ticket had nothing to do with the NAV system or how he pulled off the road. It was for the missing front plate! The officer had to write up something I guess.

I pealed back the label and flipped the switch and then grounded the break lead.

Works like a charm.

Of course, be careful, doing anything but driving is distracting and if you crash you have no-one else to blame but yourself... But this allows me to use the nav system when I am at a stop light for example. Otherwise I would have to set the parking brake at a stop light which is dangerous in itself!

Hello. Ok, well thus far this post has been very helpful. I am receiving my Avic-N3 in the mail tomorrow and plan on having someone install it for me. THis will be my first type of screen/navi in my car.

I want my system bypassed....obviously. I understand that to do this you have to flip that switch and have the installer attach that wire to the e-brake??

What will this exactly enable me to do? I want to be able to have full working dvd and/or nav functions while I am traveling above 5 mph. I dont want to have to press down the brake, e-brake, etc. With the procedure discussed here, will I be ok? I am confused about the 'stop light' thing and 'pressing the brake in'. If I have that switch flipped and the wire grounded, will I be able to watch dvds while traveling above 15 mph (w/out depressing the brakes, etc)?.

Thanks in advance and I appreciate any feedback!

-Lane

Doing the bypass will allow you to use all the functions all the time. Pull the sticker, flip the switch, ground the light green parking brake wire. Done

Lanep82 said:

Hello. Ok, well thus far this post has been very helpful. I am receiving my Avic-N3 in the mail tomorrow and plan on having someone install it for me. THis will be my first type of screen/navi in my car.

I want my system bypassed....obviously. I understand that to do this you have to flip that switch and have the installer attach that wire to the e-brake??

What will this exactly enable me to do? I want to be able to have full working dvd and/or nav functions while I am traveling above 5 mph. I dont want to have to press down the brake, e-brake, etc. With the procedure discussed here, will I be ok? I am confused about the 'stop light' thing and 'pressing the brake in'. If I have that switch flipped and the wire grounded, will I be able to watch dvds while traveling above 15 mph (w/out depressing the brakes, etc)?.

Thanks in advance and I appreciate any feedback!

-Lane