Will they work together? They both have the same connector.

please elaborate

Calm down now, it was announced a few hours ago!!!

Seriously, I think that it would work as apple would not take the risk of changing the connectors. There is too many accessories available.

Well, Apple did make all those itrips useless when they changed the ports on top of the ipod when they released the 5th generation, so I don't think they care about third party accessories. If I understand correctly that the new ones still have the dock connector, however, all should be well. I can't imagine buying an ipod that is only 16G for $400 anyway.

Screw the iPod touch. The new iPod classic is 160 gigabytes. For $350? Sign me the hell up!

i'm with..HiFiSi, i payed that much for my 80g.....sign me up,too.

As far as the connectors on the new ipods, there the same as older ipods. What I would worry about is if the directory structure was changed or not. That would be the incompatibility. However the ipod music functions of the iphone work like all pervious ipods so iI wouldn't worry too much.

the new nanos look like a choad ha

The Touch uses the same binaries( read OS) as the Iphone. It would have the same(if any) problems as the Iphone would when hooking up to a D3 or other item.

On a side note, That also means that any addon programs for the Iphone( for those who have one and have hacked it to add stuff) will also work on the Ipod touch.

Check out the article on the Ipod touch here:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/breaking/ipo ... 296837.php

The Touch uses the same binaries( read OS) as the Iphone. It would have the same(if any) problems as the Iphone would when hooking up to a D3

Not necessarily, about the the only thing that the iPhone doesn't do that iPods do is video out. Apple intentionally disabled that with the phone, the iPod touch most likely will support that as all other iPods do.

Sorry to burst everyone's bubbles, but for now it looks like video is a no go:

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/apple-locks-tv-out-in-new-ipods-breaks-video-add-ons/11371

SOOOO F'ING PISSED WTFFF??? I JUST got my freakin iPod classic and now this, i bought it like 90% for watching vids while in between classes at college.... FFFFUCCCCK!!!!!!

SOOOO F'ING PISSED WTFFF??? I JUST got my freakin iPod classic and now this, i bought it like 90% for watching vids while in between classes at college.... FFFFUCCCCK!!!!!!

shouldn't you be studying

No, I have 4 days off a week, I study then. I go to school Tues-Thurs and I have 3-5 hours in between classes. I was so looking forward to watching the new season of the Office in my car amongst other shows/movies. I'm so pissed right now, my iPod video 5G 30gb hard drive died a few weeks ago. So I wait on buying a replacement due to new ones coming out, and this is what I get.

On a positive note, browsing music on the D3 is now extremely fast. Instant really. I'm going to have to try and find someway to crack the firmware to allow video playback. I was thinking of trying the new iPod composite cables from apple and running them into the AV input on the D3. But these cables run into the dock connector so no place for the D3 dock connector. Apple just pissed me off so much. Freakin hand them $250 and they slap me in the face because they need to please all the copy protection-whore movie studios by implementing more useless DRM related crap. Seriously Apple, wtf. I wish there was some other device that had a decent level of control/integration from the D3. There's no real chance of Pioneer fixing this as only Apple has access to the chips to make the external output work.

/rant

yeah i just read about the new ipods and its inability to play through unapproved third party devices. i was going to buy an ipod classic, but i might just hold off for a bit...

but then, the thing is not that the video function doesn't work, it just doesn't turn on. with appropriate validation (apple's recommending buy their component devices, oh joy), something called Apple authentication chip, the video function does turn on. so the main question is whether or not the D3, given its more-expensive-than-the-average-gadget price tag, has it.

No, I have 4 days off a week, I study then. I go to school Tues-Thurs and I have 3-5 hours in between classes. I was so looking forward to watching the new season of the Office in my car amongst other shows/movies. I'm so pissed right now, my iPod video 5G 30gb hard drive died a few weeks ago. So I wait on buying a replacement due to new ones coming out, and this is what I get.

 

On a positive note, browsing music on the D3 is now extremely fast. Instant really. I'm going to have to try and find someway to crack the firmware to allow video playback. I was thinking of trying the new iPod composite cables from apple and running them into the AV input on the D3. But these cables run into the dock connector so no place for the D3 dock connector. Apple just pissed me off so much. Freakin hand them $250 and they slap me in the face because they need to please all the copy protection-whore movie studios by implementing more useless DRM related crap. Seriously Apple, wtf. I wish there was some other device that had a decent level of control/integration from the D3. There's no real chance of Pioneer fixing this as only Apple has access to the chips to make the external output work.

 

/rant

so i take it you already tried and failed, as far as video output's concerned? browsing is really fast now, right...i might just buy the classic anyway just because of it.

The Authentication chips are only available to Apple and are brand new, so there is zero chance that the D3 has it or will ever have it. Our only hope is that someone creates a hacked firmware for the D3 that makes it emulate an apple device or creates a hacked firmware for the iPod that enables video out. Apple can go shove it with their $50 composite cables. I still see no reason for these chips. All they did was piss off anyone that has bought their old AV cables for iPod or any other device that outputs video from an iPod.

The Authentication chips are only available to Apple and are brand new, so there is zero chance that the D3 has it or will ever have it. Our only hope is that someone creates a hacked firmware for the D3 that makes it emulate an apple device or creates a hacked firmware for the iPod that enables video out. Apple can go shove it with their $50 composite cables. I still see no reason for these chips. All they did was piss off anyone that has bought their old AV cables for iPod or any other device that outputs video from an iPod.

oh i see...i thought the chips were around for some time, but yeah i see now not a lot of products have the said chips.

i believe someone will crack the ipod for universal playback; no one with the right mind would sit still and watch steve jobs try to get everyone into their stupid inner trust circle and milk every goddamn dime out of the consumers.

I actually would anticipate a Pioneer updated cable, I don't think it has to be built into the iPod. Sucks because I wanted to buy an 80GB last week and everyone in my area was out with the new ones expected. Dropped my vehicle off for install this morning, so I guess I will have to find a used 80GB older model, I would think they will be easy to find for a while.

This may cinch getting a Touch in the future though. With the built-in WiFi and more robust OS, someone will come up with an easy crack.

I actually would anticipate a Pioneer updated cable, I don't think it has to be built into the iPod. Sucks because I wanted to buy an 80GB last week and everyone in my area was out with the new ones expected. Dropped my vehicle off for install this morning, so I guess I will have to find a used 80GB older model, I would think they will be easy to find for a while.

 

This may cinch getting a Touch in the future though. With the built-in WiFi and more robust OS, someone will come up with an easy crack.

you mean built into the D3 right lol

but you could be right...could just be the cable.

I might just buy a PSP slim for movies, etc. I can get a new PSP slim with an 8GB Memstick for about $300. That provides web browser, youtube, MP4 video playback, and video output... Oh and I hear it plays those game things too, lol. The iPhone browser is 10x better than anything on the PSP tho.

So basically, as of now, if you are only using the ipod for audio, you should go with one of the new models because the file access through the D3 is much faster.

But if you're going to use it for video as well, you should either find one of the old models somewhere or wait to see if someone develops some workaround that lets the new models put the video signal out.

Right?

That would be correct. Also, beware that the scroll wheel on the classic is not as sensitive as previous models and does not always pickup on finger movements. Possibly could be fixed through firmware update, but if it's hardware, we're screwed. It's not just mine either. There's a thread of pissed off people on the Apple forums with the same issue. I also noticed lagging on the models in the store. It's not horrible, but if you have used previous models, it can be a bit frustrating. Apple seems like they're dropping the ball with the classic. One step forward, two steps back. The Coverflow for the album art is nice though.

Well... I personally wouldn't worry about that. I would load it up with tunes, plug it in to my D3, and toss it in the glove box never to be seen again.

Yeah, that's all I'm doing with it, lol. There's no better way to access a full data base of music with the D3. I'm planning on getting a shuffle for the gym since the full size is a pain to work out with.