So who else is upset after spending money on a fancy NEX-8000?

http://9to5mac.com/2015/02/09/ios-8-3-brings-wireless-carplay-to-the-iphone/

Wow, i did not see this coming for several years. I have been holding off buying a new NEX unit trying to figure out how to get a very clean look with all the cables required for car play, app radio, usb, aux etc..  At least this will eliminate one of the extra cables. What can you say it is technology and it keeps getting better. This might be all the hold up with some of the auto manufacturers knowing that the wireless mode is coming and they held off putting it into the new cars.

I figured the lightning cable approach was due to battery drain and a seamless experience.

I get the sense this feature is only available in new cars and not in after-market headunits although I could be wrong.  This seems like something that would need to be more integrated into a car that an after-market headunit install would be capable of doing.

With that said, it would be great to have Wireless Carplay for my 4000NEX but I have gotten used to plugging in the cord and in the end it isn't that big a deal.  I'd be happy to see some of the minor issues I have been seeing ironed out in the next iOS(es).  Fingers crossed

This is what I see when using Bluetooth

http://cl.ly/image/2j3D1P0O352I

http://cl.ly/image/2D3A0Q0J2O0r

I think we will need a fw update from pioneer.

This is what I see when using Bluetooth

 

http://cl.ly/image/2j3D1P0O352I

 

http://cl.ly/image/2D3A0Q0J2O0r

 

I think we will need a fw update from pioneer.

Curious I wonder if this is a bluetooth protocol or a WiFi protocol, do you have another device you can scan the wifi and bluetooth with?

Yeah pioneer needs to update as the technology updates. But from what I am reading they don't do a good job of software updates.

Wow. Just. Wow. I hope its over Wi-Fi.

[Edit: looking at the linked article, it does seem to be a Wi-Fi feature]

I'm not going to jump to conclusions from the 9 to 5 Mac article.  It could be that we'll just need a firmware update from Pioneer.  However, given that I've not seen even any inkling of a firmware update since I bought the unit last October (for which I installed 1.08 as soon as I installed the unit), and nobody seems to have come forth with a map update (even though it was implied that we would get a free update someday), I'm not optimistic that the wireless Carplay will come for the 8000NEX.  Heck, with the 8100NEX out, I'm not feeling very confident that there will ever be another firmware update for the 8000.  Likely, the 8100NEX will support wireless CarPlay, and that will truly irritate me if they don't extend that capability to the 8000.  The bluetooth is already there, so why would it be such a problem?  I don't like being a "forgotten customer" and I have a very long brand memory.

I totally agree. Even Apple provides updates for its older phones for quite some time. Can you imagine the backlash if they dropped all support for the iPhone 6 when the 6S comes out this year? Pioneer needs to continue to provide updates for at least 2-3 years to keep up with the ever changing cell phone technology. At least the X000 and X100NEX products share a common software platform.

Well not talking Pioneer, and how much they treat their customers with respect (PS personally don't worry the 8200 will have this feature even though our current radios probably have some kind of dormant wifi in them or something stupid) however alpine's radio, the ILX-007 has been confirmed to have a dormant Wifi chip and bluetooth chip in the motherboard that I suspect will be activated at the same time as this carplay update. Sadly I can't seem to find the picture proving it at this second, but it has been shown in teardowns to have the chips. 

Wow. Just. Wow. I hope its over Wi-Fi.

 

[Edit: looking at the linked article, it does seem to be a Wi-Fi feature]

Yeah, Bluetooth is at that point where on paper it could carry video, but in practice, it isn't going to be a good experience. Plus, the early leaks around wireless CarPlay months ago were also saying WiFi. Using the bluetooth connection to trigger the WiFi pairing though is one way to do it.

Adding a patch to enable this would be the right thing to do, but has Pioneer ever gone back months down the line to add a feature to already released head units? I can't think of a case.

Adding a patch to enable this would be the right thing to do, but has Pioneer ever gone back months down the line to add a feature to already released head units? I can't think of a case.

The only time I have seen them support non current head units was when apple updated the software and it broke the Appradio 1's connection to the phone. I haven't seen a new feature be added to non current radios.

Another forum member is a pioneer authorized dealer he stated there were significant hardware changes to the new NEX units that have android auto. I wonder if these new versions might have the wi fi capability for a future update. Pioneer has not updated the manuals on these units yet but I figure if this can be added via a firmware update they will let us know like they did last year with the update for wired car play.

Another forum member is a pioneer authorized dealer he stated there were significant hardware changes to the new NEX units that have android auto. I wonder if these new versions might have the wi fi capability for a future update. Pioneer has not updated the manuals on these units yet but I figure if this can be added via a firmware update they will let us know like they did last year with the update for wired car play.

Meh. I don't care. Pioneer has already burned me with both the appradio 2 and the NEX line with their many examples of gloriously bad mismanagement. I'm waiting for the Parrot. Or maybe some other new entrant that we haven't seen yet. With Android Auto and Carplay in the mix, I'm sure there will be some kickstarter for a radio that doesn't suck at some point in the future. 

Lets not get too down on Pioneer so quickly on yet another "last minute feature".

At this point we dont know if Carplay Wireless will work over bluetooth. All of the breakdowns of our unit never revealed a WIFI chip, so if it needs WIFI AND Bluetooth (like Apples AirPlay does) then we wont have a critical physical component... despite "pioneer software delayed / forgotten customer" et all...

I can tell you, from using AirPlay a lot, that battery life is NOT what youd hope for when road tripping. I am currently happy that my phone gets a charge WHILE being plugged in... and if I have to plug it in to keep it charged while using a wireless Carplay... whats the point?

The only real advantage I see here is for short trips where battery drain wont be noticed, and for backseat riders that cant reach the USB in the front seat that would normally supply Carplay video (such as in a minivan/van).

I had the USB from my NEX unit installed where my Sync cable was on my F-150 so it looks just like factory. Anytime I get in the truck I plug the phone in anyway. 

I had the USB from my NEX unit installed where my Sync cable was on my F-150 so it looks just like factory. Anytime I get in the truck I plug the phone in anyway. 

Same on my 2014 Honda CR-V. The first shop didn't think it was possible. The second shop did it ricketysplit.

maybe will get some kind of pioneer wifi dongle that can be hooked up  to USB2 that would enable this feature. 

Found the proof that the Alpine ILX-007 has bluetooth and wifi antennas. http://i.imgur.com/th5Seil.jpg the chip does both bluetooth and wifi and the necessary antennas are on the board.

So who else is upset after spending money on a fancy NEX-8000?

 

http://9to5mac.com/2015/02/09/ios-8-3-brings-wireless-carplay-to-the-iphone/

I'm hoping iOS 8.3 offers more feature updates to CarPlay. I honestly don't care about the wirrless feature. I'm more interested in current/max speeds and other useful features.

Apple needs to fix the Bluetooth connectivity on the phones. I have an iPhone 6 and its a pain to get it to connect to my 2010 Ford Factory radio. Had no problems with previous OS versions. I too hope 8.3 fixes the Bluetooth issues. When I use the CarPlay in the car where the 6000NEX is installed I use the FireWire. No issues at all. Just wish there were more compatible apps. That will come me with time, and Pioneer needs to keep our units compatible with the newer OS and future CarPlay updates. I know...not a lot of faith there. Ha

I heard from the grapevine this is a Bluetooth function, and CarPlay head units could potentially get a firmware update to enable. I couldnt get any more info, neither from the Apple contacts I know who have access to CarPlay API nor from Pioneer where I have no contacts.

 

I'm hoping iOS 8.3 offers more feature updates to CarPlay. I honestly don't care about the wirrless feature. I'm more interested in current/max speeds and other useful features.

I highly doubt this. the only way bluetooth 4.0 can even do close to a high speed transfer is actually by using the bluetooth connection to set up a temporary adhock WiFi network between the devices. Bluetooth itself just doesn't have the bandwidth. 

I highly doubt this. the only way bluetooth 4.0 can even do close to a high speed transfer is actually by using the bluetooth connection to set up a temporary adhock WiFi network between the devices. Bluetooth itself just doesn't have the bandwidth.

I meant current/max driving speed

I meant current/max driving speed

I did't read that second paragraph. However, what I'm saying is that wireless carplay cannot be a bluetooth function. It just doesn't have the bandwidth. 

The maps app definitely needs some serious updates for live traffic rerouting and for speed based display of the map zoom.