Has anyone tried the ios8.3 beta to see if wireless CarPlay is supported by the 4100NEX?
Posted Apr 02, 2015 · 16:17 UTC#26
Wireless CarPlay
Posted Apr 02, 2015 · 18:40 UTC#27
I've been picking through the compiled 4100 firmware files, specifically PLATFORM/PJ140PLT.PRG with a text editor (TextWrangler) and there is some tidbits that might fuel your speculation. There is code about wifi/sofmac and then there is this:
system/extend/extmodule/dioclient/Sources/AirPlayNTPClient.cBad family: %##aStarted %p to %##a from %##a
Negotiating time with %##a
### Negotiate send to %##a failed (%d): %#m
### Negotiate wait for %##a failed (%d, %d): %#m
### Negotiate recv failed (%d, %d): %#m
### Negotiate with %##a failed: %d, %d, %d, %d
Successfully negotiated time with %##a
### Negotiate with %##a failed: G=%d, B=%d, S=%d, R=%d, T=%d
### NTP client start with %##a failed: %#m
AirPlayNTPClientStatAirPlayNTPClientCoreHID stopping
HID report from %@: %.3H
### HID device event failed: %#m
PCM/8000/16/2PCM/8000/16/1PCM/16000/16/1PCM/16000/16/2PCM/24000/16/1PCM/24000/16/2PCM/32000/16/1PCM/32000/16/2PCM/44100/16/1PCM/44100/16/2PCM/44100/24/1PCM/44100/24/2PCM/48000/16/1PCM/48000/16/2PCM/48000/24/1PCM/48000/24/2ALAC/44100/16/2ALAC/44100/24/2ALAC/48000/16/2ALAC/48000/24/2AAC-LC/44100/2AAC-LC/48000/2AAC-ELD/44100/2AAC-ELD/48000/2Main audio setting up %s for %@, input %s, loopback %s, volume %s
AirPlayAudioMainMain audio torn down
Alt audio setting up %s
AirPlayAudioAltAlt audio torn down
### Main audio start failed: %#m
### Alt audio start failed: %#m
### Unsupported stream type %d
system/extend/extmodule/dioclient/Sources/AirPlayReceiverPOSIX.cBad event type: %uHID stopped
AudioLatencies = %@
Ducking audio to %f within %f seconds
Delegating ducking of audio to %f within %f seconds
Unducking audio within %f seconds
Delegating unducking of audio within %f seconds
HID started
### HID start failed: %#m
### Report HID device %d of %d failed: %#m
AirPlayReceiverPlatform### Wrote type for AirPlay setting '%@': '%@'
system/extend/extmodule/dioclient/Sources/AirPlayUtils.cBad borrow/unborrow constraint%s%lluAirPlayStreamKeyAirPlayStreamIVDefault### %s: Buffering issues during session: Late=%u Missing=%u Gaps=%u Rebuffers=%u
%s: Starting audio in %u ms
%s: Buffering complete, %d ms (%d), %llu ticks late
%s: Late: %d ms (%u total)
%s: Skip: %d ms (%u total)
%s: Gap: %d ms (%u total)
%s: Re-buffering: %d ms buffered (%d), %d ms missing (%d), %u total)
AirPlayJitterBuffer:rate=3;1000AirPlayJitterBuffer--daemon### Run as daemon failed: %d-iNo interface specified with -i
-VAirPlay version %s
warning: unknown option '%s'
AirPlayMainAirPlayReceiverSessionScreen### Sender went dead. Stopping.
system/extend/extmodule/dioclient/Sources/AirPlayReceiverSessionScreen.cmalloc( %zu ) failed
Late frame (%lld ms, %u total late frames): %.3H ... %.3H
### Unknown screen opcode: %u
### Process frame error (%u): %#m
User quit event received
Stop event received for session %u
### Unknown pipe action: '%c'
AirPlayReceiverSessionScreenFrames:rate=5;3000AirPlayReceiverSessionScreenFramesAirPlayReceiverSessionScreenCoreAirPlayClock### Can't get interface's %s info: err = %d; killing session.
### Interface %s is not running; killing session.
### Interface %s is inactive; killing session.
RTSP/1.0X-Apple-ProtocolVersion%u### Get info failed: %#m, %#m
OPTIONSPOST/feedbackX-Apple-Device-ID%llxX-Apple-Client-NamePublicANNOUNCE, SETUP, RECORD, PAUSE, FLUSH, TEARDOWN, OPTIONS, GET_PARAMETER, SET_PARAMETER, POST, GETSET_PARAMETERsystem/extend/extmodule/dioclient/Sources/AirTunesServer.cSET_PARAMETER not allowed before SETUPtext/parametersBad parameter: '%.*s'Unknown parameter: '%.*s'### Set property '%@' failed: %#m, %#m
Bad Content-Type: '%.*s'GET_PARAMETERGET_PARAMETER not allowed before SETUPNo Content-Type headernamename: %s
RECORDRecord
RECORD not allowed before SETUPX-Apple-DurationsbcauansassSETUP### Setup denied because playback is not allowed
Setup
Denying interruption from %##a due to %##a
*** Hijacking connection %##a for %##a
Closing connection from %##a to %##a
### Bad ET: %d
### Setup session failed: %#m
Bad setup URL '%.*s'TEARDOWNTeardown %?@
/log### Rejecting log request from non-internal build
/info### Unsupported GET: '%.*s'
/auth-setupMFi
application/octet-stream/command### Command '%@' failed: %#m, %#m
/diag-info### Feedback failed: %#m, %#m
Bad POST: '%.*s'Bad method: %.*sServerAirTunes/%sYjM5ODQ4MDE0MmI3YTI4ZmQ1MzdjNGIxMDVmNzYxMDg=WWW-AuthenticateDigest realm="airplay", nonce="%s"%.*sAirTunesServerQueue### Failure: %#m
*** ALLOW PLAYBACK ***
*** PREVENT PLAYBACK ***
AirTunesServerHTTPAirTunesServerCoreAirPlay session ended: Dur=%{dur} Reason=%#m
%.*s
%s: Estimated rate: %.3f
### screen start failed: %#m
AirPlayScreenReceiverscreen receiver started
Screen thread exit
### NTP send request failed: %#m
system/extend/extmodule/dioclient/Sources/AirPlayReceiverSession.cBad size: %zu < %zuBad version: %dWrong packet type: %d### Large clock sync RTT %f, Avg %f, Min %f, Max %f, Offset %f
Replaced large clock sync RTT with %f, offset %f
### Idle for %llu seconds
Idle timeout after %d seconds with no audio
screen receiver torn down
qTiming finalized
AirPlayTimeSyncClientTiming thread starting
select() error: %#mTiming thread exit
AirPlayAudioReceiverMainAltAudio thread starting
### Process main audio error: %#m
%s audio thread exit
%s audio torn down
Control torn down
{%kO=%i%kO=%O}Tearing down session %llu with %##a %?@
Now this might be all generic OS stuff, but finding references to AirPlay is a bit surprising.
Posted Apr 03, 2015 · 00:24 UTC#28
i am running 8.3 beta and can say that carplay wireless does not work.i have the NEX8000...the response time and stability of carplay has improved significantly. you no longer have to unlock your phone to allow carplay to start on the unit..Bluetooth connectivity and sound is sharp and clear..they are improving just at a slow rate lol..
Posted Apr 03, 2015 · 02:02 UTC#29
i am running 8.3 beta and can say that carplay wireless does not work.i have the NEX8000...the response time and stability of carplay has improved significantly. you no longer have to unlock your phone to allow carplay to start on the unit..Bluetooth connectivity and sound is sharp and clear..they are improving just at a slow rate lol..
Any improvements to the Maps app in CarPlay? Does it now show current/max speed?
Posted Apr 03, 2015 · 03:19 UTC#30
i am running 8.3 beta and can say that carplay wireless does not work.i have the NEX8000...the response time and stability of carplay has improved significantly. you no longer have to unlock your phone to allow carplay to start on the unit..Bluetooth connectivity and sound is sharp and clear..they are improving just at a slow rate lol..
Just to be clear with everyone because I've seen this a few times said in different threads. Carplay does NOT use bluetooth. At all. Everything comes from the USB port. Wireless carplay may use the bluetooth but signs for that point more to wifi in the car which is why the NEX units cannot do it. The Alpine might, but it's unlikely.
Posted Apr 05, 2015 · 19:07 UTC#31
Just to be clear with everyone because I've seen this a few times said in different threads. Carplay does NOT use bluetooth. At all. Everything comes from the USB port. Wireless carplay may use the bluetooth but signs for that point more to wifi in the car which is why the NEX units cannot do it. The Alpine might, but it's unlikely.
Carplay uses bluetooth for phone calls
Posted Apr 05, 2015 · 21:53 UTC#32
No. It goes through usb. Give it a try. Unpair your Bluetooth on your phone and turn off Bluetooth and erase your phone on your radio and then plug your phone into CarPlay. Once it's connected, make a call. Notice it still works. No Bluetooth. All from the usb direct connect.
Carplay uses bluetooth for phone calls
Edited Apr 05, 2015 by dannyz3343
Posted Apr 07, 2015 · 15:13 UTC#33
CarPlay Mode : Does not use bluetooth in any way, just as Dannyz3343 said ( and countless others). All audio and video is routed over the lightening/USB connection.
Siri Eyes Free Mode : Only uses bluetooth, is NOT connected physically in any way to the head unit. You lose CarPlay video on your screen, but siri still works along with a special "car mode" voice command set that is not active when Siri cant detect your head unit. Other Siri Eyes Free compatible apps work with Siri to provide additional information via voice only.
Posted Apr 08, 2015 · 17:40 UTC#34
FYI...
iOS 8.3 was officially released today and with it the dawn of Wireless CarPlay for some.
Posted Apr 08, 2015 · 19:09 UTC#35
FYI...
iOS 8.3 was officially released today and with it the dawn of Wireless CarPlay for some.
sorry what do you mean by some? wouldn't it be available to everyone?
Posted Apr 08, 2015 · 19:16 UTC#36
sorry what do you mean by some? wouldn't it be available to everyone?
iOS 8.3 was officially released today [for everyone] and with it the dawn of Wireless CarPlay [for some].
Posted Apr 08, 2015 · 20:19 UTC#37
updating now. I will be testing in about 40 minutes when I leave the office.
Posted Apr 08, 2015 · 20:42 UTC#38
where is the carplay settings on the phone?
Posted Apr 08, 2015 · 20:59 UTC#39
Please report back!
Posted Apr 08, 2015 · 21:36 UTC#40
where is the carplay settings on the phone?
My CarPlay setting didn't show up until I connected my phone to the head unit. Then, it was under Settings/General
Posted Apr 08, 2015 · 23:25 UTC#41
Up it showed up then. There is no wireless option. Only option is to use CarPlay when iPhone is locked.
Posted Apr 08, 2015 · 23:29 UTC#42
I am guessing that there needs to be a firmware upgrade to use wireless. I bet the x100 will get it but not the U.S. First gen.
Boo!
Posted Apr 09, 2015 · 02:32 UTC#43
I am guessing that there needs to be a firmware upgrade to use wireless. I bet the x100 will get it but not the U.S. First gen.
Boo!
from what I've seen the NEX radios don't have the hardware (wifi) to be able to do wireless carplay.
Posted Apr 09, 2015 · 12:43 UTC#44
Apple needs to fix the Bluetooth connectivity on the phones. I have an iPhone 6 and its a pain to get it to connect to my 2010 Ford Factory radio. Had no problems with previous OS versions. I too hope 8.3 fixes the Bluetooth issues. When I use the CarPlay in the car where the 6000NEX is installed I use the FireWire. No issues at all. Just wish there were more compatible apps. That will come me with time, and Pioneer needs to keep our units compatible with the newer OS and future CarPlay updates. I know...not a lot of faith there. Ha
I had the same problem forever. I finally bit the bullet and did a full restore without using a back up, which was what apple told me to do months ago. No bluetooth issues anymore with the car, with my garmin devices, or anything. So I suggest that.
Posted Apr 09, 2015 · 12:45 UTC#45
from what I've seen the NEX radios don't have the hardware (wifi) to be able to do wireless carplay.
so, the x100 won't have it either then? cause other than the screen, they are the same fraking unit.
Posted Apr 09, 2015 · 14:18 UTC#46
found this on techcrunch talking about 8.3 beta. http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/09/ios-8-3-beta-arrives-with-wireless-carplay-support/
I wonder why that option isn't showing up to pair. I would figure that, even if it needed adhoc wifi that the NEX doesn't have, the option would be their to pair. Even though it will fail.
So the question is, why isn't there an option for wireless under carplay.
Posted Apr 09, 2015 · 17:01 UTC#47
Honestly, nothing beats a good layer 1 connection. With a cable plugged in, things are more reliable and your iPhone's battery stays charged. I seriously can't help but wonder how much of a toll wireless CarPlay must be on an iPhone's battery.
It would be more convenient to have wireless carplay but....I'm happy with using the cable.
Posted Apr 09, 2015 · 17:06 UTC#48
The only change I have found is CarPlay connection (via USB) while the iPhone is locked. Better than nothing, I guess.
Posted Apr 09, 2015 · 17:26 UTC#49
Honestly, nothing beats a good layer 1 connection. With a cable plugged in, things are more reliable and your iPhone's battery stays charged. I seriously can't help but wonder how much of a toll wireless CarPlay must be on an iPhone's battery.
It would be more convenient to have wireless carplay but....I'm happy with using the cable.
Me too, just like I prefer Ethernet over Wi-Fi, latency is a bucket full of pain.
Posted Apr 09, 2015 · 17:28 UTC#50
The only change I have found is CarPlay connection (via USB) while the iPhone is locked. Better than nothing, I guess.
This is actually a significant change, some of us are required by Exchange policies to have a passcode and having to constantly unlock the phone every time you plugged it in was incredibly annoying.