Called pioneer this morning to get information about the issue with the classics not updating the track information. The support rep as soon as I mentioned the classic's told me their are working on a solution for the track info not updating and hope to have something out within a week. So they seem to know about it and are working on it. I will call pioneer in a week and see what they have to say 
Drove my car for 2 hours today running errands and the track always updated. Brand new ipod classic 80 gig black with the 1.0.1 firmware update. Guess its fixed now I am going to get the new universal dock with video out and just hook it to the rca's on the d3 and use the ipod jack right into the universal dock so I can have ipod and video.
Here's an idea, buy something other than apple! Quit letting them own the market, otherwise they will continue to do whatever they want.
If only it were that easy.
If the usb controller had a better interface and didnt cap out at like 500 folders, I would have replaced the apple already. Portable usb drives are much cheaper and I don't use an ipod for anthing other than music storage. Until then, or perhaps if pioneer releases a chaper dvd changer that reads mp3 and aac's, I don't know of a better alternative.
Here's an idea, buy something other than apple! Quit letting them own the market, otherwise they will continue to do whatever they want.
I love to buy from others but only apple's ipod has the interface so that I can control it from my D3. Show me similar product with similar interface and I will get it.
Drove my car for 2 hours today running errands and the track always updated. Brand new ipod classic 80 gig black with the 1.0.1 firmware update. Guess its fixed now
I updated to new firmware and the track is not updated. When I first start the car it plays for about 3 songs with track updated correctly and then stop. If I hit >> to skip to next song, it's worse. It only updates for 10 seconds or so then freeze.
You guys ever think of getting an mac mini? the one with duo core. I'm thinking of doing this with a foldable keyboard bluetooth and trackpad or so...you can watch movies on it, with the map in the d3, and *gasp* special effects and visual update with itunes visual on your d3 screen when playing mp3. 
haha...well, that is just my path.
I updated to new firmware and the track is not updated. When I first start the car it plays for about 3 songs with track updated correctly and then stop. If I hit >> to skip to next song, it's worse. It only updates for 10 seconds or so then freeze.
Dunno what to tell you but it works fine for me. I tried with coverflow on and off and still works great. Hope you get it sorted out.
You guys ever think of getting an mac mini? the one with duo core. I'm thinking of doing this with a foldable keyboard bluetooth and trackpad or so...you can watch movies on it, with the map in the d3, and *gasp* special effects and visual update with itunes visual on your d3 screen when playing mp3.
If you're going to do that why wouldn't you just tear out the d3 all together, get a lilliput touch screen and set up a carputer? I had a similar setup in my last car (Mazda 3) but it was a pain in the ass overall and I couldn't really get a good fit in my new car (Altima Coupe). However, if I was planning on running a mac mini anyway there's no way I wouldn't want control of the pc through the touchscreen.
You guys ever think of getting an mac mini? the one with duo core. I'm thinking of doing this with a foldable keyboard bluetooth and trackpad or so...you can watch movies on it, with the map in the d3, and *gasp* special effects and visual update with itunes visual on your d3 screen when playing mp3.
If you're going to do that why wouldn't you just tear out the d3 all together, get a lilliput touch screen and set up a carputer? I had a similar setup in my last car (Mazda 3) but it was a pain in the ass overall and I couldn't really get a good fit in my new car (Altima Coupe). However, if I was planning on running a mac mini anyway there's no way I wouldn't want control of the pc through the touchscreen.
That's a hell of a lot cheaper, too.
Update: I was running with coverflow on and the track listing locked up on the d3. Pulled over, turned coverflow off and now no problems. So for people having issues go into settings - > music menu. Then uncheck coverflow.
I hope I find a temporary fix.
The track information will not update if you click video tab or podcast tab and then go back to song playing.
I switch to FM radio on D3, unplug ipod, restart it, then plug it back in and it plays song fine with track information updated. I then click video and then back to music and it stops update track again.
I will be on a 2 hour trip later today and see what happen if I just let it plays without touching anything.
well i just went ahead and bought a 5th gen iPod video. 
i'm still hearing about lots of problems with the new classics 
Exactly. When in doubt, go with what you know works.
where did u get ur 5th generation ipod from?
and price?
and was it 5.5 or just 5 generation and does the video out work on it caue it does not work at all on my new ipod?
i think i`m taking mines back and get my money back.
Any ipod before the new 6th gen will work flawlessly with the D3. Video playback works, track info updates, etc. It's just the brand new ones that just came out that have the problems.
And if you're looking to buy one of the older models at a reasonable price, your best bet is probably going to be ebay. Just... be careful who you're buying from.
You could also buy a refurb 80gb Ipod Video from the Apple Store for $220.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nplm=FA448LL/A
ok cool what generation model are the referb ones?
i bought mine refurbished from Apple. price was $199 but i used my $100 Apple iPhone credit towards the iPod so i got it for about $112 incl. tax. shipping was free!
it's a black 30GB version and i think it's the 5.5.
and how can i tell if someone i can buy from is safe .
Well look at the seller's feedback. The ones who have a ton of feedback, mostly positive are a better choice. The ones with little to no feedback or a lot of negative feedback you might want to steer clear from.
You'll also want to read some of the feedbacks. Ones that are generic like "Good Ebayer A++++" can be sellers boosting their ratings on small things and they scam people on big stuff.
ok i`m not gonna go with ebay then i just ordered a 30 gig off from apples referb. site for $199.00 5th generation so i should not have any problems with the video out feature right????