john_tsouris

After going through this forum topic and going through the entire update, I saw the need to modify these instructions. The instructions as written were mostly technically correct, but it is obvious from some of the posts that newbies were having trouble with some items. The instructions are the same, but more detailed. Some minor errors were corrected as well (such as the bluetooth screens you will see when updating the bluetooth. The original says confirm the 2.50 version before it says hit the 'firmware' button, but you can't see the firmware version 2.50 UNTIL you hit the button....)

Are you adults? Someone criticizes something IN the USA, not the USA mind you, but something in it..... and you cry literally like babies? Wah! Oh, no.... this country is just PERFECT in all ways, right. Some of us would like to improve some things that could be better here while others pout wrapped in the red white and blue. So lock this thread then, and go back to your tea party nonsense, but remember in the end you all couldn't handle some criticism. If you don't want to hear some negative things, then perhaps you shouldn't run or even read a forum.

Off topic? Are you kidding? Here is your topic, is the PIONEER AVIC-Z110 advertising clearly lists features that it does not have OR it lists features that do not work because PIONEER does not have the ABILITY or DESIRE to make it work, but they do have the desire to continue to illegally advertise their product in that manner. And somehow the guys at Pioneer USA have nothing to do with it, huh? Right....

Ha! It's just very common for big companies to advertise something and then not deliver, and that's a US thing. As for the Japanese, their whole culture thrives upon quality and honesty. You do not embarrass yourself or your company over there. I do not agree that the Pioneer US team does what Japan tells them to. I'd like to know more about that. I think the Japanese people at Pioneer are being fed pure BS by their US counterparts. Typically, it is US companies that operate like this. I give you Microsoft, and any cable company..... $30 for cable TV that turns into $70 a month a

Pioneer has a huge building in this country, in California, filled to the brim with USA trained executive types that do all the actual USA advertising of their product. And, yes, they will definitely all point the finger at one another, and it is "screw you, customer" in the end..... absolute typical attitude for the mighty United States. This is the reason it is so amusing to see people who find Windows exploits post them to the internet, forcing Microsoft to scramble. It forces them to actually fix their product instead of ignoring customers. Wish someone could do that for every U

Greensboro has a huge amount of theaters, and my wife wanted the MSN solely to check movie times..... and of course it doesn't work. We're not talking about a huge amount of data here. It's a text message size practically. I'm glad to see yet another two companies advertise something and then not deliver it. Go USA! We're the BEST!

I agree, but I want to know why the features we already have aren't working properly as they are supposed to.

Howdy. My Z110 and x910 now have working MSN, but there are no movie times or local events listed for my area.... it says "data not available" in Greensboro, NC. According to MSN Direct's web site, ALL MSN data should be available for this area. I called them, and they INSISTED that if the movie and local data is not being shown, Pioneer needs to update their firmware as the newer Pioneer units should show this info. Furthermore, MSN is now broadcasting flight times and doppler radar images as well. A firmware update from Pioneer is needed to see this information. Anyone have

I bought the Pioneer OEM cable and the sound problem out of the left speakers was fixed. Best Buy stocks the cable in local stores if you are in a hurry, but I think they are $59......

With all due respect, MSN Direct is all over the manuals listed here, clearly shown in the menus, and the Z hardware is not supposed to change.... leaving an MSN tuner jack on the back. Both the Z and X share the same manual here, too, and same menu screens pictured throughout. How do you know the software will be different?

From what other members have said, the navigation engine in the X920 will be changed from previous X versions to the same one used in in the new Z series products. Therefore, both the Z120 and the X920 will be running the exact same software for the first time. This means you will get a larger screen and more features like dual-zone video in the Z/more inputs/faster processor?, with the X920 having no advantage at all over the Z other than a built in MSN tuner. Somebody correct me if I got any of that wrong.

Good insight! That says a lot. And it's depressing. Hey, perhaps a Pioneer guy can make an account here and not fully let on who he/she is. Secret-Pioneer-guy. Or how about "LongBeachFlyOnTheWall"? Hmmm. Maybe one of you is already here. I agree with you. Sounds about right. I would ask that someone from Pioneer reading this forum take his own initiative to contact Japan. What, are you afraid of getting in trouble? Please. Get over it and become a big boy. Or at least anonymously post secret contact emails for Japan execs. We'll take over from there. Your explanation a

I hear ya. But just because they are big, doesn't mean they have to have closed minds or not go on the record. Delta airlines recently undertook a multi-million dollar project to install internet in all of their aircraft. This project included top guys at Delta interacting and taking advice from their customers via on-line blogs and chats. No company is too big to listen to their customers. But some are so big they choose not to...... I agree that Pioneer is thus far the best, which is why I own two. But some of the decisions.... ugh!

If Pioneer knows of this site, and doesn't have their own people posting, then I can literally see the Pioneer attitude. It's GFY. This is the same exact attitude that got Microsoft into trouble. I have attempted to call Pioneer.... I do know how. The people I spoke to are obviously in an overseas call center. You get a canned response, and that's it. Nothing says "We don't care" like hiring a far away call center. What's more than Pioneer people not knowing their products, the people at Pioneer obviously don't even use their own products. These sales guys must not drive to their

I can't imagine any of their customer base has ever told them they are on the right track. As for their dealers giving them feedback, their own dealers seem to know nothing about these units. But I do agree they don't listen to us. I don't think they know 411 exists because the members here have some great and laughingly simple suggestions that if implemented, would make ALL of their customer base happy. It would shock me even more if Pioneer knew of this site, but still didn't entertain our requests to make these units better. My wife is one who uses their navigation. She only use

All of the navigation manufacturer's engineers have very little vision, and ZERO knowledge of what their customers want. Eco routing. That's what they come up with. But, Pioneer's stuff is to the point where they're close to having a great product. The new high-res displays are great. If those &%$#%^ guys had just put some more useful features into the navigation like searching for POI along a route, it really would be a flagship product. The people at this forum could give Pioneer 100 great and simple things to roll out with the next update, but apparently Pioneer knows what

If you're that serious about the audio, the last thing I would do is let a head unit do anything. Buy an external sound processor, and get the features you want plus 50 more.

I have an upgrade problem. I have a 40GB Toshiba HD that has worked for a year with the Z3 2008 files. When I do a straight upgrade using the Z3 2009 image, everything is fine. When I write the image, and then expand the MSV partition to include the extra 10 gig of unallocated space, the unit will not work. It barely boots, and will only let me into the a/v screens. Anyone know how to properly expand the MSV partition? I was using EASEUS partition tool, I deleted both the user and msv partitions after saving the folders inside, re-made the partitions making the msv bigger, an

Forget the entire Pioneer series from the Z110 and the X920 on, but there is an improvement over the Z2. The x910 uses the newer ipod a/v interface (same as the Z110) and has a better navigation system. I don't see Pioneer improving their navigation system for years, if ever, so you might as well pick up an x910 for the mean time. The x910 appears to be an upgrade as far as the navigation goes. It uses a different navigation engine than the Z1,Z2, Z3, and features things like the ability to search for POI along a route. The ipod interface is also lightning fast. My Z3 goes

Yeah, I Pioneer just didn't want those manuals out so soon and they were trying to put the s**t back in the goose. I'm excited now to get a 910 and see what's on the road in front of me instead of waaaay behind...

Also, thanks for the info. I've decided to buy the X910 and a good media player, as I read the X910 makes you burn certain video files to DVD to play them, and I'd really like to never burn a DVD again, ever. Plus, I'd like NAV and video at the same time. This will allow me to stick with Pioneer, too. Yay! Time to put the Z3 up on eBay. I guess this means my wife's brand spank me new Z110 is going up on eBay, too. Wish I had more free time to do homework before I bought the unit. Thanks to all who posted help.

I should have been clearer. My mind is moving faster than my typing.... I read a couple blurbs on this forum that Pioneer, or another company, made a mistake in releasing the dual X920/Z120 manual, and this one wasn't the *official* manual.... and might not accurately reflect what was really going on in the unit/s. I should have been clearer. I went to Pioneer hoping they would have the *official* X920 manual listed there right on the X920 page as this unit is out, or nearly out, but not so..... So my bad.

Nevermind. Was able to find the info I needed on the other X forum. Except for the possible dual zone video hack question. Thx.....

VBLUE42, just to confirm.... I'm about to dive into the X mods on the forum, but that will take me hours. I have a couple quick questions: I can't seem to find my way to a manual for the X920. 1. The X910 is the last unit made that supports modification, and the new Z110, Z120, and X920 run the same crappy nav software, right? I would confirm myself on the 920 but can't find the user manual @ pioneer com. 2. Also, if the F910 has dual zone video, is there no hack for the x910 to do the same if they are the same unit? Sounds like software. That's not a big deal, as I can run

Am I to understand that people have programmed their own updates for the 910 available to us on the internet? AND the x series has a totally different navigation engine? I did not know that. So in other words, find a used x910 as the new x920 uses the same crappy nav as the Z? Glad you told me that, or I might have purchased the 920. I think this puts the nail in the coffin on Pioneer if I want a new unit out of the box. It looks as if they will never update the Z nav software. MikeinNJ Kudos on that "learning" function. After literally 100 trips through West Virginia, th