ryar

Hello,

Once installed Avicnet in EU dispositive I have the following problems are likely solution:

1 - The USB device is not recognized by the system (as if the key is not connected)

2 - Avicnet does an automatic reboot if I start (even, with inserted SD and without)

3 - Avicnet performed mute the car radio (even without running Primo), and do not activate it again (with Pioneer v2.07 I could hear the car radio and when the GPS speak the radio sound is muted, then continue the radio. When I was listening to the radio or USB or SD, GPS mute the music to speak). Not now, whenever I boot AVICNET radio is muted. (and the GPS speak over SD music - This is not a problem ) ¿?

I still use Primo 1.2 incorporate in Avicnet, is posible that Primo 1.0 (post 2) be the solution?

4 - adjustment of pioneer (not avicnet) MUTE button is inactive

And is it possible to use a USB phone as a modem? How? (nokia c6-01)

Thank for your contributions, and excuse me for mi bad english (I´m spanish)

Hi, I'm not quite sure what you are asking but will try to help.

1) Glad your USB is working.

2) It reboots after a hard reset (after booting into testmode or booting for the first time). This is to change the registry to support additional USB devices, load smaller DPI to make Total Commander easier to use, ect. Some users have reported a double reset each time the unit starts; I believe this may be vehicle specific due to a low voltage upon starting. I have been busy lately but when I find some time I will upload a fix so the double restart doesn't happen.

3) You could try Primo 1.0, although it is not as polished as 1.2 the sound and buttons work perfectly. Note the spoken dialog for directions does not mute the music like the stock iGo does; rather it speaks overtop.

4) Which mute button are you referring too? Is it in the settings somewhere? I haven't noticed this issue.

So far as a phone for a modem, I believe the drivers included are for certain usb 3g devices. It would be quite an accomplishment to share internet from a phone, but there are no RNDIS drivers present. At this point it is not possible.

On another note, did anyone else try HOBD yet? I bought the full version which gives you trends and graphs on most of the specs, wow is it awesome!

Edit: Comments removed. Ovalball is right, as he usually is. It is the holidays and there is no reason to bicker.

 

Can you please tell me where to add those lines of code? Which file and where is it located? Thank You! >=D

The sys.txt is where the debug lines would go, it is in the Primo directory (My Flash Disk\APL2\Primo). The map settings is found in the Primo menu. With Primo running from the map screen tap the top right icon, then map settings, choose user zoom settings on, then tap user zoom settings. This is where you would enter all the information posted above. Note it is only available on Primo 1.2 while using GJ_AK skin.

Sweet, I am so glad I have this avic unit haha.... Is their any way all you smart people could figure out how to connect a digital TV antennae to be hooked up with it so that we could possibly have live tv hooked up to it? Because I would be all over that one...

TV while driving? Yikes, that isn't safe xD! It is unlikely that there are drivers and software for older winCE that would work with modern USB tuners.

If you were to connect your unit to the internet you could broadcast via ORB from your home PC. It works well with Windows Mobile using coreplayer, I watched many a hockey game using this method. Using a digital tuner and connecting it to your units A/V connections would also work, this would probably be the easiest way to go.

O ok sweet, sorry I am kind of a computer dummy, but does that mean if I hook up a usb hub it will automatically switch from my ipod to the usb to OBDII when I select check engine?

Using a hub would mean your unit would detect your ipod and obbII reader and allow them to be used simultaneously.

Hello,

 

Thanks to your suggestions I managed to start Avicnet:

I started in v2.07 and upgrade to V3.0 (with checksum error, the system would not start), then upgrade to V3.02 pioneer, and finally install AVICNET. Apparently the system boots, but even I have some problems:

 

The message "AVIC. The sistem is starting. Please wait" does not end

 

When start maps button or destinate the system back a message "Mapes out of date" and dont allow me to continue.

 

Any solution?

 

 

I am Spanish and I apologize for my grammatical errors

They System starting message should go away after 10 seconds or so. Make sure you copied maps on to your unit, if you do and the system is still showing that message delete all contents from My Flash Disk and copy all the AVICnet files back on. Copy on maps. Maybe try a different SD card, sometimes they corrupt the data. Carefully follow the steps in Post #1 under installation instructions, sometimes missing a simple step can cause problems later.

No problem. I have not installed my f900 yet but is there anything that does not work with AVICnet? Any improvements you can think of that would make it better?

Primo 1.2 sound only works when music is being played off an SD card, Primo 1.0 has audio working correctly regardless of source. In order to fix this the primo.exe from 1.2 must be decompiled and the appropriate commands added. Other then that everything is working as it should.

Anyone know of a good usb switch kind of thing so that I can just switch between the different usb connections without having to unplug each (such as my ipod and the OBDII thing)?

There are drivers built into avicnet that allow the use of a usb hub. I can verify that a com port is available from the osbII reader when plugged into a hub. I don't have an ipod to verify it will work properly with the osbII reader connected concurrently, however.

Thanks redz_newbie, I added instructions on how to launch HOBD from the existing Check Engine icon on post #1. The driver will still have to be loaded manually, and it will have to be reloaded after a hard reset or after booting into testmode.

What if we just replace check engine with HOBD. Can you test out replacing the folder in APL4 and then replace the text in programs_83.txt which is under My Flash Disk\User\UserData\iGo\SAVE\userlists. SETUP.INI will read programs_83.txt and we should now have replaced Check Engine with HOBD. What do you think? Also, I am assuming this is the free version?

Yes and No. It (hobd.exe) will not launch through a shortcut in the avic net menu, it seems it needs total commander or explorer running in order to launch properly. I started writing a script in which it first launches total commander, then checks if the driver is installed before launching hobd, if it is not it will prompt you to do so but mortscript and my unit are being uncooperative today. I will give it another shot tomorrow if I have some time. Note the standalone version of hobd does not require .net 3.5, lucky for us. Hobd is the free version and it is very impressive software unlike some others I tried which have interfaces which look like they are straight out of the 80s. If you like it the full version is $21, just make sure that you purchase the standalone version.

Edit: Scratch that, I had a bad shortcut. Explorer or Total Commander are not required.

OBD software, drivers, and instructions are on Post #1 under the OBD heading. For now you must launch through Total Commander (My Flash Disk\APL4\HOBD\hobd.exe). Install the drivers first, they are in the drivers folder.

OMG! I got the OSBII working today! I am a little tipsy from the GF's Christmas party tonight, so I will upoad the files and instructions tomorrow.

 

 

Yes. This I know. But how change name: navigation, games, utils, etc (in menu avicnet)??

You will have to make some changes to the avic_net_800_480.ui file (in iGo\ui_pioneer\UI). Just under <layer ui_AvicMenu_an z=30> (line 40) you can change the menu names to what you please.

Hello,

 

I tried Avicnet EnglishEU and Avicnet Italian in my F500BT (WINCE5, version 2.0070000) but not get it to work.

 

In both cases I have the same problem, the system does not start (only see the boot screen but do not get to see "starting system").

 

You give me some idea? Is it necessary to upgrade WINCE? How F500BT is updated (WINCE)?

 

Thank you all for your work

It sounds like you have an old version of winCE. Follow the steps on this thread to update: http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/31481-ver-30-or-later-on-f500bt/page__hl__f500bt__fromsearch__1

Has anyone who has successfully got the maps working in Garmin and Tom Tom please confirm exactly where you have put them.I am looking at the instructions in post 1 and refer to the instructions regarding Tom Tom.I don't have a directory called My flash disc/Maps.Or do I have to create one?

Sorry Ovalball, I gave you bad advice. The correct path is My Flash Disk\Map. (singular)

1. I want to change some names ("games", "programs", "Utilities", etc..) on the otherc (in my native language).

Where I find a file (and which) and how to edit? (some program name)

 

2. Is it possible to map to the navigation software (igo, garmin, TomTom, etc) read from SD or USB. Avic is low on internal memory, unfortunately,

Where I find a file (and which) and how to edit?

 

Sorry for my English - I use a translator

With going of what sk4000 said is there a way to make this run purely off the SD card or USB drive?

You can change the Program names by tapping AVICnet, settings, settings menu, specific program (navigation\Primo for example), and edit. The icon, path, description, program name and more can be changed.

Yes you can run programs from SD or USB rather then My Flash Disk. When launching many programs your AVIC will first check if the program is on SD or USB first before launching from My Flash Disk. The path on the SD card should be as follows: (Note the SD is the root of the card, not a SD folder):

Primo: SD\Primo\

Note you need to comment out all lines in the sys.txt under (FOLDER). If the NNG programs are not in the same directory they will not share maps, ect. You must then place all maps/voices/poi/ect in the Content folder.

Primo2: SD\Primo2\

Follow the same steps as above for content.

TomTom: SD\TomTom\

I never tried this yet and can't confirm, but if you use this method maps should go inside SD\Map

Garmin: SD\APL4\Garmin\

Maps go inside this folder as well.

OziExplorer: SD\APL4\OziExplorer

If you choose to relocate programs to SD or USB you can delete the programs from your My Flash Disk. Make sure to leave the Run folder intact; the files inside are required to launch the programs from SD\USB\My Flash Disk.

I added the same instructions to Post #1.

One more thing to mention, Initially we thought Primo 1.2 reset the unit upon exit due to a memory problem but this is not the case. It is a license issue. Depending on what unit Primo has been pulled from, some require that is run off SD therefore the unit reboots when an SD is not detected; this may explain why an SD card must be inserted and audio played off it to get sound in Primo 1.2. If you delete the license files in Primo 1.2 and replace them with the license files from 1.0 the unit will no longer reboot upon exiting and "killing" the process is no longer required.

 

I also often restart ...

Neither my F500BT nor F900BT do a double start except after booting to testmode or when initializing for the 1st time. I wonder if the problem is Vehicle specific due to a voltage drop when turning the engine over when starting?

 

Ryar I found this for check engine:

 

Setting up the USB connection

Connect the power adapter USB-ECU to the USB-port. And the computer will detect the adapter and will choose the driver to install.

 

If you connect your computer could not find the right driver and the adapter remains in the device list as "Unknown Device" - remove the AC adapter from the USB-port of the computer, install the adapter driver, USB-ECU, which is available at Download Site www.check-engine.ru. Then plug the adapter into the USB-port.

 

For the program Check-Engine with an adapter, the program must select the right COM-port. To determine which COM-port adapter, a connection is selected, go to My Computer> Properties> Hardware> Device Manager. In the list of devices, locate the "Ports (COM & LPT)". In the drop-down list should appear device USB Serial Port (COM X), where X - number of virtual COM-port. Select the program settings "Check-Engine" is the port.

 

So CheckEngine can select port 8 and should be able to work correct?

Thanks for the info. Here is where we are at with the OBDII: It seems the Russian check engine program only works with the module they sell, which is why it has been omitted in the Italian mod. While I can successfully connect my reader to other OBDII programs for PC, I cannot connect to Check Engine. In the settings you are promoted to enter the serial number for the OBDII reader. My reader is an ELM327 and there is no serial number present, which likely the reason the software will not connect.

There is other software for winCE OSBII readers, some specificly for the ELM327. No luck on any of the ones I tried as well. FourG mentioned back in post 160 and 162 that is is possibly a driver problem. I haven't tried playing with any drivers yet, I guess that is the next step.

I can confirm that the driver for Windows 7 on the Check-Engine website did the trick for my ELM327 on my PC. Hopefully the Windows CE driver from that site will work for my AVIC and OSBII. Now it is a matter of configuring the driver for the reader. I will post back with any news.

Really enjoying AVICnet so far, except for the double start but I'm working on a fix for that...

 

Just wondering if anybody knows where the settings would be found for the screen dim for when you turn your headlights on?

The original software and a some of the other mods still dimmed the screen when you turned your headlights on but AVICnet doesn't.

The double start should only happen initially or after you boot into test mode; it is possible to disable but keep in mind it is loading many reg keys, ect which is what allow features such as making it more finger friendly in total commander by showing a lesser resolution, for example. Initially it booted WinCE into Russian but I changed it back to English.

My unit dims with the headlights fine, just set your screen brightness with them off and again with them on. It will remember your settings and dim accordingly.

 

Yes....

Thanks, did you try Primo 1.0? If so is TMC working in that version? Odd how you have it working but other users are having difficulties. Thanks again for the upload.

Hi. I have an AVIC-F320BT unit.

Is this mod working on it ?

thx

Sorry, no. Regarding Primo on your unit, Eam has a few posts near the end of the Primo thread but was having difficulties caused by his unit going into standby every 30 minutes. Maybe send him a PM and see if he has corrected the issue.

Thanks Ryar! Was looking through the file and have been reading over the forum a lot, can any windows ce program be run as long as all the required files are in APL4? If not where did all these programs come from (Bubblets, Mastermind, Calc98CE, etc)? Looking into modifying and it seems like there are two ways to do it, LeetCoders way of doing where you run a self created version of the UI to run on windowsCE or the way it seems like most other mods are going is just changing/improving Pioneers UI, what are your thoughts? Really just trying to understand everything as most information is scattered through out different threads.

You can put the programs anywhere and they will run, most are in APL4 for consistency. I moved Primo to APL2 so it would share the maps with iGo8, for some reason when it was in APL4 it would not see the maps. Some programs are in the system folder as well. If you would like to add programs you can create an icon by taping AVICnet, settings, settings menu, programs (for example), and add. There you can select an icon for the program, and must fill in the program name and path. The path would be for example: \My Flash Disk\APL4\example\example.exe.

It seems that working around the stock iGo is the easiest, now that we know system memory can be freed up by killing the ezrider process starting from scratch doesn't seem to be a feasible option. LeetCoder was very creative and talented, too bad he stopped development some time ago.

 

Thanks Ryar! One last thing, I was reading through the whole FX3.1 thread and just wanted to confirm if you upgrade WindowsCE on any avic it will use more free space of the internal 2gb? So is upgrading WindowsCE worth it, meaning is the upgrade of CE what is making the unit more responsive or is it the firmware which makes the unit better?

It shouldn't take up much more space since you will only be flashing to a new winCE image. I think it would be a bit of both, a newer winCe and installing polished firmware (a custom mod) will help make your unit more responsive. You could take out all maps except areas you frequent, this will give you plenty of free space.

I wonder if it is because I am running Primo 1.0 and Primo 1.2 (the w/o) option? I created the tmc folder in both Primo and Primo2 folders.

So TMC is not working in both 1.0 and patper's 1.2 in post #151? Are there any Euro users who have working TMC?

 

ive searched and there are so many mapsets. anyone know what ones i need to get and how do i activate them for my unit

 

Thanks

If you go to the 1st link in post #19 there are directions on how to active the TomTom maps with your unit. Newer maps are always best!

Getting my F900bt soon and wanted to know if I need to install firmware 3.0 before this? Ryar, did you get the OBDII to usb reader to work? Also, in your video I see other applications calculator, paint, etc. do these work as well?

Didn't spend much time on the OBD2 reader, FourG mentioned there may be driver issues. Depending on if you are in North America or Europe use the firmware in post #1. With an F900BT make sure to flash the firmware in post #3 (after flashing 3.0) to disable the gyro.

Dear Santa

 

If you happen to stumble upon our forum,is there any chance you can sort out the sound on Primo 1.2 so we can hear it without having to play through an SD card.I know you have one of these on your sliegh to help you find your way around so see if you can do nthis for the lads????Thanks.

Were you a good little boy this year ovalball? If not then it is Primo 1.0 for you!

Has anyone who has successfully got the maps working in Garmin and Tom Tom please confirm exactly where you have put them.I am looking at the instructions in post 1 and refer to the instructions regarding Tom Tom.I don't have a directory called My flash disc/Maps.Or do I have to create one?

Yep, create the directory and put the maps inside. Make sure you activate them for your unit.

 

ryar, you may need the right driver for the chip in the OBDII reader. If you use you laptop's device manager (assuming Windows here) and look under the OBDII device's properties, you should be able to look up the Hardware ID (usually has VID and PID in the string). You can then do a Google search to see if there are any WinCE drivers for that part (typically these things use an FTDI part but the EEPROM settings change the VID/PID to the OEM's info so only their driver works with it).

Great, thanks for the info FourG! Excuse my ignorance, I am still a novice with winCE. How would one load the correct driver in winCE if found? Obviously with windows it can be done in the device manager. Would a mortscript file do the trick?