Fenton

no... you were lying. I am curious though how a kid your age can even afford a new mazda, assuming, of course, that you actually have one. When I was 12 I wasn't allowed to drive.

Has anyone other than mazdaspeed confirmed this?( no offense mazda) I missed the thundercrack and heavenly light apparently...

I think i am sold on the Z1. I just wish there was someone local to phoenix that could vouch for the accuracy of the nav data in relation to phoenix metro area... Still, even if the map data is a little out of date the z1 seems to be the all around best choice. I was also looking at one of the g4 infill pc's but there is very little user experience documented on the web in regards to this unit, and they are a bit spendy. thx everyone!

Thanks you for the detailed response regardingt he sound quality of the digital rip! It has relieved any concerns I had in that respect. What about the map DB on the Z1 though? Is it newer, older or the same as the n3? From what I have read the N3 uses the 60m disc and maps/firmware, does the z1 have all the same data as the N3 in regards to navi? I am torn between getting a z1 and getting an N3 w/ a p6 changer add on. It is important to me to have a navi that will have at least reasonably up to date information. THX

Is this the same on a '06 STI as an '04... I know there are allot of electrical changes between 2004-2005+... thx

I am also trying to decide between eclipse and a pioneer z1 (bypass is critical to me). i am heavily leaning towards z1 after reviewing the posts on this forum. My only remaining concern is with the Z1's map discs. How up to date are they? I live in Phoenix,AZ so i am in a major city... I have read in a few places that they are somewhat out of date. Are they newer or older the the N3? I have also read that the Z1's imported music (from cd) is laking in playback quality, a couple of posts flamed it pretty bad, does everyone consider this accurate? thx