intenceice Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 I was thinking today there are ways to use something on a PC that allows you to log how a computer reacts to a command. in otherwords when a file is copied you can track where in the registry refrences to the file is kept also where the file is stored and what associations it has to it. I am wondering if something like this could be developed to watch how the mp3's are copied when a cd is insertedhow and where the files are stored and referenced to etc. All in all just like we do with computers we are able to create an algorithm to replicate this proccess so in essence we connect the HDD to our PC's use a program with this algorithm to copy the MP3's as if it were in the Deck itself. I know its possible for computers etc thats the method they use to create cracks and generators etc for applications for your PC. I dont know much about these things so i wouldn't be able to create anything but if someone has better reverse engineering experience then i do with electronics please try to make something of this sort i am pretty sure it will be extremely popular. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bridge4d Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 The files copied to the HDD are not mp3's, they are in a format used by Pioneer. I believe you will find this issue talked about at length in several other posts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Yep, they are Atrac i believe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperite Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Yep, they are Atrac i believe You ARE correct, sir Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inferno999 Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 not straight atrac though. Standard atrac converters do not seem to work as this has been tried before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intenceice Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 understood but there has to be some technique used in the PC world of cracking and algorithms that will work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperite Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 understood but there has to be some technique used in the PC world of cracking and algorithms that will work? have at it, hauss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 have at it, hauss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kafklatsch Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 With my unlocked drives, I have noticed that the songs (files) appear to be located in pieces throughout the drive. I have noticed at least 2 folders containing music. There has to be something to it. Has anyone done some basic research - i.e. check the drive, then record one song, then check for any changes to files and/or folders...................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sir Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 With my unlocked drives, I have noticed that the songs (files) appear to be located in pieces throughout the drive. I have noticed at least 2 folders containing music. There has to be something to it. Has anyone done some basic research - i.e. check the drive, then record one song, then check for any changes to files and/or folders...................... Any new findings on this. I bet everyone is interested in this subject. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inferno999 Posted May 22, 2008 Report Share Posted May 22, 2008 The folder structure is similar to on an iPod. It's broken down in an arbitrary balance so as not to overtax the system when browsing. Instead, songs and their locations are logged in an index and retrieved as necessary. I played with this a while ago and tried so see if it would be feasible to "crack" the index and drop our own ATRAC's on there (assuming we ever got a converter that created ATRAC's the Z could actually play). While it would be possible, though slightly time consuming, to learn how it writes the index and balances the file structure/load, it's all a moot point as there is currently no way to convert MP3's to a format the Z recognizes. So I gave up. Good luck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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