magnum44 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Had the F900 installed in my truck and am going to have it taken out next week, this thing sucks. Horribly slow start up, bluetooth phone doesnt work, you would think Pioneer would have the echo problem fixed when they went through the same problem with the Z2. The screen looks good but it is so dim you cant hardly see it and the clock is almost invisible. The MSN direct doesnt work the only good thing about it that I will miss is the voice controls for the ipod. Im getting the Kenwood unit installed next week and will bid good riddance to the F900. Link to post Share on other sites
CatchMeIfYouCan631 Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Had the F900 installed in my truck and am going to have it taken out next week, this thing sucks. Horribly slow start up, bluetooth phone doesnt work, you would think Pioneer would have the echo problem fixed when they went through the same problem with the Z2. The screen looks good but it is so dim you cant hardly see it and the clock is almost invisible. The MSN direct doesnt work the only good thing about it that I will miss is the voice controls for the ipod. Im getting the Kenwood unit installed next week and will bid good riddance to the F900. Kk. Link to post Share on other sites
jdmeyes Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 You sure it was installed correctly? Was the bad startup time due to the ipod? Link to post Share on other sites
magnum44 Posted June 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Im positive it was installed correctly and the boot up time was added to by the ipod but as I said in my post the screen is so dim you can barely see it and the bluetooth phone is nothing but static and an echo MSN direct didnt work even though I checked with the MSN direct and they told me that I was signed up and should be getting a signal, as I said I know everything was installed correctly because a professional did it who has done work for me for years so I know that it was done right. Link to post Share on other sites
superjet Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Does it dim with the headlights? Sounds like the dimmer wire is showing voltage during the daytime causing it to dim all the time. What kind of vehicle was it put into? Link to post Share on other sites
magnum44 Posted June 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 an F-150 truck Link to post Share on other sites
superjet Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Well, I wouldn't be that sure about being installed correctly. the installer could have hooked the dimmer wire to the negative one thats in your truck, thus it would be dim during the day, and bright at night, just the opposite effect. There may be a setting on the radio to change it to negative trigger, the D3 had it. Another problem may be your headlights and parking lights come on automaticaly during the day, thus dimming the radio. It also may just simply be hooked up wrong. Your installer may be a profesional, but I'm sure that he can make a occasional mistake, just like everybody else does from time to time. If you look around the forum here, I'm sure alot of people would be mentioning that they cannot see their display during the day. The MSN service does work on these units, many have used it already. Msn Direct works off your antenna on the truck. Did you give it some time to activate it? It will not turn on right away, and sometimes may take a day or two if the radio is not powered up for a long period of time, especially if your only making short trips. Are you getting good fm/am reception on all your channels? Lastly, you can speed up the boot time by turning off the feature where the deck scrolls through your ipod everytime you start up the radio. Hope this helps! Link to post Share on other sites
bobsyouruncle Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 an F-150 truck Depending on the year, there may not be a dimmer wire in the factory harness. Ford started using a canbus interface around 2003-2004. Not all vehicles use it. Not even all f-150s use it. some do, some don't. depends on the trim package. AS far as msn direct not working... Did you get an HD radio adapter, by chance? Link to post Share on other sites
magnum44 Posted June 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 No I did not get an HD adapter Link to post Share on other sites
bobsyouruncle Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Hmm. Not sure then. Could just be coverage in your area. Check the map. http://www.msndirect.com/NavigationDevi ... b=Coverage Link to post Share on other sites
magnum44 Posted June 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 I even called MSN direct on the phone to verify that I had coverage and they told me I was in a good area and it still doesnt work Link to post Share on other sites
magnum44 Posted June 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 How do I turn off the feature where it scrolls through my ipod upon startup? Link to post Share on other sites
dgoody Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Well, I wouldn't be that sure about being installed correctly. the installer could have hooked the dimmer wire to the negative one thats in your truck, thus it would be dim during the day, and bright at night, just the opposite effect. There may be a setting on the radio to change it to negative trigger, the D3 had it. Another problem may be your headlights and parking lights come on automaticaly during the day, thus dimming the radio. It also may just simply be hooked up wrong. Your installer may be a profesional, but I'm sure that he can make a occasional mistake, just like everybody else does from time to time. If you look around the forum here, I'm sure alot of people would be mentioning that they cannot see their display during the day. Hope this helps! superjet, What about cars with always-on daytime running lights? Is it possible my installer hooked that up causing the screen to be permanently too dim? I have heard a ton of people complain about the dim display though (and mine's cranked up to the max). If it's the DRL's, is there a simple solution? I just went driving around. It's been cloudy and I've been travelling (not in the car) alot. Today was the first really bright, sunny day and I couldn't believe how UNREADABLE the display is. Forget about it if you're wearing sunglasses for sure. But in broad daylight I can't see anything. When I turn the headlights on and off nothing happens. Are other owners satisfied with the brightness level? Link to post Share on other sites
CamelTowing Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 turn off vr catalog How do I turn off the feature where it scrolls through my ipod upon startup? Link to post Share on other sites
superjet Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Daytime running lights is really not an issue, unless the parking lights or dash lights come on also. Disconnect the orange/white on the decks harness and see if it resolves your issue. Basically, if orange/white sees voltage, it dims the radio. Link to post Share on other sites
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