$1800

Will the current Z3 on eBay be a correct indicator for the going rate of Buy-It-Now prices to be around $1350 (for a standalone brand new unit)? Does anyone know what the retail price will be?

So, I've heard rumors that the Z3 is supposed to have built in bluetooth... can any of you guys that have one confirm or deny this... thanks

Who fed you that line if crap? Its exactly the same as a Z1/2 with newer software

So, I've heard rumors that the Z3 is supposed to have built in bluetooth... can any of you guys that have one confirm or deny this... thanks

thanks... the dealer at a local install shop stated the following

1. it has built in bluetooth

2. it has upgraded 80Gb harddrive

3. It has improved voice recognition

hey don't kill the messenger, that's why I came here to get the facts... I know I'm a noob, but I've been browsing for quite some time now, and have owned and installed numerous Pioneer nav units over the years, anyway, thanks for the response

I note that the pictures from 1 KRAZY KANUCK show a separate Bluetooth box with the Z3 box. Couldn't read the print on the Z3 box to see if it listed the size of the hardrive.

thanks... the dealer at a local install shop stated the following

 

1. it has built in bluetooth

2. it has upgraded 80Gb harddrive

3. It has improved voice recognition

Well, as for #1, I still wouldn't be surprised if the installer was mistaken. Even the Z1 has built in bluetooth SUPPORT, just just need an add on module.

#2. I wouldn't doubt that. I mean, it's probably cheaper to make 80's now than it is 30's since the manufacturing tools/plants for 30gb would be out of date.

#3 I believe that too. So did the Z2 over the Z1. Truth is though, no matter how much they improve the list of recognizable terms, it'll never work good enough for me until I can just say, "Computer... Tea... Earl Gray ... hot." etc, without having to first hit a voice button and wait 3 of 4 seconds for a beep.

I'd suspect that there will be some internal changes AND some software changes. First the processor/processors will probably run at a higher clock rate AND the mainboard/memory will most likely run at lower voltages. The software I suspect will be written to take advantage of faster hardware, hopefully bus speeds will be faster so input devices will operate at a reasonable speed. When I first hooked my Ipod to my Z1 I was really disappointed to say the least.

#2. I wouldn't doubt that. I mean, it's probably cheaper to make 80's now than it is 30's since the manufacturing tools/plants for 30gb would be out of date.

The box says 30GB.

Do you guys think prices for new Z2s on eBay will see a decrease now that they are being outdated? If so, do you think it would be smarter to just buy a Z2 for around $900 and just get a Z3 update disc? Is the Z3 that much more cutting edge?

Do you guys think prices for new Z2s on eBay will see a decrease now that they are being outdated? If so, do you think it would be smarter to just buy a Z2 for around $900 and just get a Z3 update disc? Is the Z3 that much more cutting edge?

The Z3s don't seem to be much better. I would wait until it's on the offcial pioneer site though. I was JUST going to buy a Z2 for $1,200 from a authorized retailer, but now they have the Z3 on ebay for 150$ more. So, I am going to wait for the Z3 and see how much better they are.

Does anyone know why the Z3 is out and yet, not posted on Pioneer's website?

Because websites don't always get updated on a timely basis. It was in their literature three months ago though

Does anyone know why the Z3 is out and yet, not posted on Pioneer's website?

I have been following the string about the new Z3 and related update to the Z2 (which I own) which brings the Z2 up to Z3 capabilities. Where is this updgrade available from? I have looked on the Pioneer site and can only find the Gracenote and High Temperature Lockup updates.

I have been following the string about the new Z3 and related update to the Z2 (which I own) which brings the Z2 up to Z3 capabilities. Where is this updgrade available from? I have looked on the Pioneer site and can only find the Gracenote and High Temperature Lockup updates.

Doesn't exist yet ( the software update for the Z2)...

Did they fix the routing issue? Because that is the Z series biggest weakness IMO.

does anybody know if the z3 has the light color buttons feature like the d3?

NO, its just like the Z1 and Z2

does anybody know if the z3 has the light color buttons feature like the d3?

so whats new on it? all the specs are the same that i see are the same

so whats new on it? all the specs are the same that i see are the same

Maybe they just changed the name to keep it in line with the European models, which are named HD1BT and HD3BT ( equivalent to the current Z1 and Z2, appart from the radio part.....)

For about the fifth time in this thread...Newer map data and POI

so whats new on it? all the specs are the same that i see are the same

take it easy..... i just think thats hardly believable, that would just be an map update which you can buy on a dvd and i doubt they would release a new product with simply that. There are brands adding new features and integrating bluetooth such as kenwood and i dont think pioneer wants to "passed in the race" and there has been alot of complaints about the ipod connectivity so i doubt they would fix that or make it integrated like the d3

you know Pioneer is not this huge company with a ton of overhead.. they really dont care for feed back.... so seeing that no changes to the Z3 does not surprise me.. I have had my Z1 upgraded now tro Z2 for about 2 years and if they had made some good changes I would buy it. But for now I will wait for the update to go from Z2 to Z3...

For about the fifth time in this thread...Newer map data and POI

 

so whats new on it? all the specs are the same that i see are the same

I think we'd prefer to hear that from someone who actually owns one!!

Someone saying the same thing 5 times just to run up his post total doesn't have any significant impact on this discussion.

Now that they're out, let's just hear from those that actually own one on this subject.