This forum needs a spot where everyone can list the things that are still not working correctly even after the Firmware update. Lets make it easy for Pioneer to see what they still need to work on. We all know they're watching this forum. Make your issue LARGE font so it's easy to pick out. I'll get it started.

1. If a USB Stick is plugged into my F700BT when I turn on my car the USB device is not detected. I have to unplug and replug the USB Stick to get the unit to recognize it again.After I uploaded the firmware it seemed that this issue was resolved but it started happening again the next day.

2. Can't figure out how to MUTE the Nav voice telling me "Nav Signal Lost" This really pisses me off because on a cloudy day this happens about every 10 min. I'm not even sure if that's normal. My Sirius signal is always good on cloudy days.

1) When recieving a call system changes to map screen. Should stay on screen that was in use when call came in, or at least change back to that screen when call ends.

2) Even with no route set, boxes for next turn ( street name at top of screen and direction of turn at top left ) are still there. Should be gone with no route set to get a cleaner view of map.

3) Can't get voice recognition to work for calling a contact that was downloaded. Using LG VX8550.

4) Cannot tell which number is going to be called when touching a contact. The large icons of a person are useless. Need icons that differentiate what number is stored when there are multiple entries for same contact. Such as a house for home #. Phone or cell phone, large Building for work etc. Or just ditch the icons and have words like cell,work,home. or even show the number instead of that useless icon of a person. More contacts could be shown per screen without that large icon of a person.

5) On map screen, info bar for zoom level is useless. Suggest when zoom activated a popup comes up to clearly identify zoom level.

6) Should be able to select either North or Heading up in 2D and 3D map modes.

7) AVIC-F900BT has no way to verify that speed signal is being read properly. Does it even make a difference if speed is hooked up or not ?

-Still cannot disable gas stations on nav map, even when all gas stations are disabled in "Manage POI" menu.

-I would like to add to the statment above that the time to destination, next turn, and eta box also be removed when there is no route.

-Clock on map screen should have a background--it's nearly impossible to read when objects on the map are behind it. Better yet, keep it in the upper left corner in a box, like all of the other screens on the interface.

1) When receiving a call system changes to map screen. Also changed to a different Radio station when call ended.

2) Even with no route set, boxes for next turn (street name at top of screen and direction of turn at top left) are still there.

3) Cannot tell which number is going to be called when touching a contact.

4) TTS is gone after the upgrade. Tried everything mentioned still no Samantha.

5) HD Radio Presets do not show call signs. The stations saved you just don’t know what they are.

6) Can’t disable gas stations on nav map.

7) 2D Map mode is always North

Positive……Bluetooth now works well.

Avic F90BT

XM

HD Radio

1. Unit does not stay on same FM radio station when turning off/on vehicle. Always defaults to a different radio station, which in my case is static.

2. Blue tooth voice quality is good.. However the reconnect times vary. Sometimes it reconnects to my phone in 3 min, other times in 15 min, other times it wont connect. I can force the connection from my phone and it works.

3. Even with no route set, boxes for next turn (street name at top of screen and direction of turn at top left) are still there.

4. Cannot tell which number is going to be called when touching a contact.

5. 2D Map mode is always North

6. GPS instructions - to many next turn reminders. The unit even tells me three times to go straight through a street light. Why remind you if you are not turning.

7. Clock on map screen should have a background--it's nearly impossible to read when objects on the map are behind it

8. Allow us to turn off the beeps for every button push. I know if you turn the volume all the way down, it will go away along with the rest of the sound, but there needs to be a on/off option.

9. I am going to say it, even though it wont matter. Shorten the boot up time.

There are still a lot of "Little Detail" things that are lingering, which frustrates you especially when paying a lot of $$$. Hopefully some of these common issues can be resolved with another firmware.

Still Broken

1. GPS switches from 3D to 2D while in route.

2. GPS loses location and goes into constant "recalculating route" until the map button is pressed

3. Can't remove the horrible gas station PIO's

4. 2D map is unusable (always North)

5. Still lose iPod connectivity through out the day for no reason

6. Sirius forgets to scroll (needs a complete re-write of this interface IMHO)

7. GPS, while in route, constantly is giving directions. For example you are two miles from an offramp. You get the 2 mile warning, 1 mile warning, 400 yard warning, take exit, stay right, stay right. Makes it impossible to listen to a song or the radio.

FIXED

1. BLUE TOOTH IS USABLE! HUGE IMPROVEMENT

2. Blue tooth works!

Not going to be fixed so we just need to drop it

1. Boot time - we just need to deal with the hardware choices made by Pioneer

Regarding the European update -

Fixed -

- USB audio no longer skips in map screen

- According to Pioneer, the "USB/SD audio suddenly blasting at full volume" issue is fixed

Not fixed -

- Bootup time (not that it ever will be)

- Resuming USB playback on switch on. Either it doesn't work at all, and the stick must be unplugged/replugged, or it resumes, but from the first track on the stick.

- BT Calls always switch to map screen

- No way to tell which number relates to which contact

- No way to switch all button beeps off, only Nav ones.

- Speed camera audio alerts are stupidly quiet if music is playing

- Unit won't power up if it's cold (this is probably a hardware issue though)

New issues (!!)

- Starting playback from USB/SD will now always set the navigation "master volume" to max. You can reset it back to normal, but this will only work until the next restart when you play USB/SD again.

- Downloading BT contacts sometimes causes the unit to reboot half way through

Phone keeps connecting/disconnecting

When connected, quality did not improve a bit

Response time to touch of buttons is still terrible!

(did 2 steps update all the way and reset a few times)

I'm getting this error when I try to update my f700

Try re-downloading the patch. Maybe that file got corrupted somewhere along the way.

I downloaded four times and still getting the same error i tried different sd cards and nothing

Sounds like there are still alot of issues.... C'mon Pioneer!!!!

Could also be a problem with the SD card.

Try formatting the SD card. Do NOT do a quick format on it.

You want a sector by sector check that there are no bad memory cells on it.

***edit - wow. we all responded pretty much at the same time.

I agree with all of the issues mentioned above. I do not have a problem with the FM stations though, when ever i start up, it is always on the same station i left off. My biggest concerns are all of the Navigation issues.

The blank route boxes

not being able to select heading up in 2D mode

The red arrow in 3D mode is TO BIG!!! should be smaller or maybe a car.

I like the IPOD Album art but not on the MAP display.(just my opinion)

In regards to the box in lower left corner (eta, distance...) i found you can get rid of that display if you select full screen cockpit in the settings page. However, the setting always defaults to off everytime you start the car, so you always have to change it.

I read a little about AVIC feeds and not only can you create custom POI's but it has a settings replicator so that you can change the settings for the head unit in the AVIC FEEDs interface screen. It would be nice if they gave more setting options in that interface so you could do more tweaks and change more settings to possibly change the above issues a lot of people are having, this would alleviate pioneer from having to do all of these firmware updates. Then once you have made your setting changes, go out to your car and upload them to the unit via SD card and have a perfectly workng unit!! (yeah right, just a fantasy but nice to dream)

More problems:

1. 8GB SD card is causing freezes and reboots during extended viewing of video (DIVX file). Three times it has froze and rebooted watching three different movies for longer than 30 minutes.

2. Bluetooth has ended two phone calls in the past 24 hrs. I do 1-2 hrs a day of phonecalls while driving each day.

And again Pioneer drops the ball... still using the Z3... and D3... F90bt both of them doing a great job sitting on the bookshelf... LOL Pioneer has to do better. I read an article that they actually work harder for car manufactures DVD's then their condumer brand. This is because more and more cars have Navs when you buy them... makes sense where is the money...

My voice recognition will not recognize Names, but will recognize Numbers

I have most of the issues named.

One other, phone takes too long to be functional. My call is switched to bluetooth on device before device can deal with it. On my last one, it was instant, on this, it takes long enough for someone to hang up on me and freezes more often than not if they do stay on the line.

I have only been playing with the f900bt (sending back this week for the 700) a little tonight after the update and I cant seem to get the voice recognition to work for IPOD. I can change to different artist, or particular playlist. I can say, "Play playlist hip hop." and it will respond "playing ALL playlist"/ Or I can say play genre Acoustic Worship, and it will say "playing all genres."

I have the right ipod cable but I am using the mic I had for my old Z2 (this shouldnt matter because I am able to access other av operations via voice command) --right? Or am I missing something here? Thank you for any assistance. I've already ordered a f700bt for her car, but if this continues, I may cancel the order and go back to a D3..

I also have the 30gb 5.5 gen classic Ipod..can this be apart of the problem, even though I am able to play music flawlessly. Oh, it also says after the VR update completes, "the VR catalogue is unable to process voice ...blah blah blah"

Try putting the spelling "Acoostic Worship" and see if it works. My is picky too and I get that all the time so I have to be creative.

If you have any Depeche Mode, try and get it to play that, you have to say "De Peachy Mode" or for Erasure say "Your A Sure" and she'll get it. Its mainly phonetic I am finding.

I posted this in another thread but thought i'd post it in the appropriate thread...

So I just got off the phone with Pioneer relaying the problems i'm having with the unit. I told him ever since the firmware update it has been nothing but problems. The main examples I gave were the touch screen being on a delay, my phone not staying connected, and also dropping my ipod.

He said that the firmware wouldn't have caused any of these to all of a sudden start occuring. He recommended to reinstall the software on the ipod. Yeah, right.

Next, I told him that I got rid of a Z2 to get this unit becuase I thought I was getting the superior unit. He informed me that the F series is an economy unit. So I questioned, "Why then disnt you put the higher resolution and nicer user interface on the the new Z3?" His response: "It won't fit on the screen. I don't know if you knew this but the Z has a different size screen." No shit.

And lastly, the one thing that just made me realize they really let this get out of hand, are the 2 greenish blue squares for the route that never go away. He said they were intentional and they ARE MEANT TO STAY ON THE SCREEN AT ALL TIMES. WTF?

After I told him that I was surprised they put this thing through R&D and were happy with it enough to sell it to the consumer, I kindly hung up telling him I'm getting an eclipse unit now.

Eff you pioneer.

Next, I told him that I got rid of a Z2 to get this unit becuase I thought I was getting the superior unit. He informed me that the F series is an economy unit. So I questioned, "Why then disnt you put the higher resolution and nicer user interface on the the new Z3?" His response: "It won't fit on the screen. I don't know if you knew this but the Z has a different size screen." No shit.

It's because the Z3 is NOT a new unit, It's basically a Z1/Z2 with updated maps and firmware and the like. It's in desperate need up a remodel/makeover. The F series has a higher resolution and better user interface because it's a brand new unit, where as the Z series has had the exact same design since the first Z1 came out, like 3 (or 4?) years ago. Whenever Pioneer decides to re-do (or replace) the Z series, it will most likely have an edge in design over the F-series just as the F-series has an edge in design over it now.

I've been waiting a month for the F series. Granted, new products will have bugs, but this is unacceptable. This is a main stream consumer product and should have gone through better QC.

I'm not waiting anymore. I'm taking my business to Kenwood.

i'm actually glad that i didn't wait for the update now. i bought my kenwood 8120 and couldn't be happier. i'm really sad to see pioneer treat it's customers like this. i hope you guys get a good fix.