The updated maps cost them money to buy, they aren't going to give that away for free. They wouldn't be in business much longer if they didn't make money on what they paid for.....unless when they did go broke the government bailed them out with billions of dollars.
Basic economics my friend.
Dude...Tom Tom and Magellan map updates cost way less...take a look on their websites. Something like $70 for most...some companies' map updates are more, others are FREE.
Pioneer is gouging you...where'd you get the idea "most" updates/upgrades cost $200???
Dude...Tom Tom and Magellan map updates cost way less...take a look on their websites. Something like $70 for most...some companies' map updates are more, others are FREE.
Pioneer is gouging you...where'd you get the idea "most" updates/upgrades cost $200???
Magellan charges $80 to $200 for its update, Where do YOU come up with free 
http://www.magellangps.com/products/map ... RODID=2156
http://www.magellangps.com/products/map ... RODID=1307
BMW, Chevy, Caddilac, Ford, Jag, Hummer or any other with NAVTEQ or Tele Atlas which makes about 80% of the mapping systems.
What do you think it costs to have a national or world map made?
Oh wait more proof to discredit your babble..
Tom Tom charges $59 for just acouple states.
Why you're taking it personal... I have no idea.
Its not personal, I like facts. If people are going to throw it out there they should have facts to back it.
Will this work on the D2? I get the message please insert appropriate disk.
Hmm...
TxJole appears to be just plain wrong...here's why he (or she?) is in fact a babbling putz:
For one thing, one of the very links he himself (herself?) provided is for a CHEAP (ONLY $80!) Magellan update FOR ALL 50 STATES!! He provided evidence to totally contradict himself (herself) when he claims it's for just "a few states" ...and nowhere NEAR the high end of the cost range he claims.
To cite just another of many examples I found, here's a link to a TomTom map update of ALL OF NORTH AMERICA for just $100 (again, nowhere near the high end TxJole made up in his head):
http://www.tomtom.com/products/maps/sel ... e=4&P=4497
So far, I can't find a single map update that costs $200 for any common system.
And yes, TxJole, some devices provide a year or more of free map updates, or the first update free. And many systems (except Pioneer's, of course) allow people to store corrections to map data in their own unit to overcome known bad data or road changes...allowing people to avoid common problems along their routes. Alas, since Pioneer's systems don't allow that, anyone who hasn't dumped their AVIC already is stuck waiting for new map data.
So basically, NOTHING about my original post is incorrect...what TxJole's problem is, I cannot say.
Hmm...
TxJole appears to be just plain wrong...here's why he (or she?) is in fact a babbling putz:
For one thing, one of the very links he himself (herself?) provided is for a CHEAP (ONLY $80!) Magellan update FOR ALL 50 STATES!! He provided evidence to totally contradict himself (herself) when he claims it's for just "a few states" ...and nowhere NEAR the high end of the cost range he claims.
To cite just another of many examples I found, here's a link to a TomTom map update of ALL OF NORTH AMERICA for just $100 (again, nowhere near the high end TxJole made up in his head):
http://www.tomtom.com/products/maps/sel ... e=4&P=4497
So far, I can't find a single map update that costs $200 for any common system.
And yes, TxJole, some devices provide a year or more of free map updates, or the first update free. And many systems (except Pioneer's, of course) allow people to store corrections to map data in their own unit to overcome known bad data or road changes...allowing people to avoid common problems along their routes. Alas, since Pioneer's systems don't allow that, anyone who hasn't dumped their AVIC already is stuck waiting for new map data.
So basically, NOTHING about my original post is incorrect...what TxJole's problem is, I cannot say.
Hm...all the needed facts that discredit him. Well done 
. I don't see why he came to a thread that was clearly going to be ABOUT getting the updates for free, just to act like *well why would anyone want these for free...* and try to justify the price. When you see a thread that says *Torrent* and you see people already loving the one person for uploading it and seeding it like mad, then you know the PEOPLE that are going to be in here, clearly aren't going to pay the $$$ for the map upgrade. FYI, the 07 Maps SUCKED.
My beach house up at Watercolor FL has been there for FOUR YEARS, watercolor has been there for 7! NEITHER are on the damned maps! But waddya know? My old garmin had 'em. Lovely. I'm defiantly not paying for these maps, at most I see this as a correction for Pioneer's previous CRAP maps.
Hmm...
TxJole appears to be just plain wrong...here's why he (or she?) is in fact a babbling putz:
For one thing, one of the very links he himself (herself?) provided is for a CHEAP (ONLY $80!) Magellan update FOR ALL 50 STATES!! He provided evidence to totally contradict himself (herself) when he claims it's for just "a few states" ...and nowhere NEAR the high end of the cost range he claims.
To cite just another of many examples I found, here's a link to a TomTom map update of ALL OF NORTH AMERICA for just $100 (again, nowhere near the high end TxJole made up in his head):
http://www.tomtom.com/products/maps/sel ... e=4&P=4497
So far, I can't find a single map update that costs $200 for any common system.
And yes, TxJole, some devices provide a year or more of free map updates, or the first update free. And many systems (except Pioneer's, of course) allow people to store corrections to map data in their own unit to overcome known bad data or road changes...allowing people to avoid common problems along their routes. Alas, since Pioneer's systems don't allow that, anyone who hasn't dumped their AVIC already is stuck waiting for new map data.
So basically, NOTHING about my original post is incorrect...what TxJole's problem is, I cannot say.
You are right I was looking at buying each region for the Tom Tom. I found many and purchased myself an update for waterways that cost 199 plus shipping. Caddy's cost 199 plus shipping. BMW 199, Jag 199. Take my post as you will, I have both discs in transit, i'm sure someone on here will build a torrent for the east soon. Good Luck
Damn near any auto manufacturer charges $199. Mazda just released one for my car. Wadda know. $199. But auto manufacturers have been raping people for their money since the dawn of time. Just paid $58 for a friggin 12"x4" foam seal that I installed myself. 
They know you don't have a choice. If you own a Mazda, where else are you going to get the updates? No where. If Tom Tom charged $199, I'd throw that piece of crap in the garbage and buy a new Garmin.
Point being, I realize maps are not going to be free. I just feel $150 is far too stiff for something like this.
Pioneer sells them for $120.00
Personally, I couldn't care less how "reasonable" $120 is supposed to be or how much higher auto manufacturers charge for it. I'm still not going to pay that much for it.
Thank for the file and instructions. I installed the update and it went without a hitch. Thanks again! 
If someone wants to upload the .iso to my ftp server I will leave it on for awhile and give access to anyone wanting to d/l.
Seriously, I have just built a new ftp server w/ 16GB ram, 3x 300GB 10,000rpm raptors, dual quad cores on a 15/2 broadband connection and will do this partly in the name of burn-in and testing.
Has anyone posted the new east disk anywhere on the web?
not that i have seen and i've been looking everyday
ok, question for ya, I burnt the uif file to a +R DL RW DVD... loaded it into my D3, it checked the file and updated. When it rebooted I wasn't getting any of the beeps or pongs when touching the screen. I was like "ok, this is weird" but I was getting my sirius audio.
After a couple seconds the drive came to live and made a whirring, and I got my pongs and beeps back, it then spit out the burnt disk.
So here I am, pressing the nav button, and it doesn't do anything. Hmm... So I go into the audio setup and try switching to the nav menu.. it sits at a black screen, then crashes the unit.
So i re-boot the system with the DVD back in the drive, it comes to live, shows "Starting nav" sits at the pioneer screen showing that it's 1994-2008. Sits there for a while, then crashes the unit again.
What's going on?
I personally think that the Torrent people have burnt are really meant for the AVIC N5 and thats it. If u look at the disc that came with the N5 should say "For AVIC-N5" so it prolly has a different format somewhere in there. I dunno I jus think thats the issue. The new released discs are prolly made differently and is meant for the other systems... I dunno jus speakin out my ass lol
ok, question for ya, I burnt the uif file to a +R DL RW DVD... loaded it into my D3, it checked the file and updated. When it rebooted I wasn't getting any of the beeps or pongs when touching the screen. I was like "ok, this is weird" but I was getting my sirius audio.
After a couple seconds the drive came to live and made a whirring, and I got my pongs and beeps back, it then spit out the burnt disk.
So here I am, pressing the nav button, and it doesn't do anything. Hmm... So I go into the audio setup and try switching to the nav menu.. it sits at a black screen, then crashes the unit.
So i re-boot the system with the DVD back in the drive, it comes to live, shows "Starting nav" sits at the pioneer screen showing that it's 1994-2008. Sits there for a while, then crashes the unit again.
What's going on?
If you did indeed burn the .uif file to a disc, that won't work. You need to extract the files from the .uif, if I remember correctly, it creates an .iso file and then you burn from that.
hmmm.. I was wondering the same thing, when I first burnt it. Which is confusing as to how the pioneer was able to update properly
errr.. not properly as it doesn't work the nav, but update at all.
Go to this page, http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=105, and follow the instructions. Use MagicISO to extract an .iso file from the .uif and then use MagicISO to burn the .iso file to your DL dvd.
1. I only have the west coast disc.
[that's fine, that's all I need]
2. Download the torrent file from the rapidshare link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/142615724/a ... rrent.html
[done]
3. Use your favorite torrent program do download this. Please don't bitch at me because of speed, I am seeding the best I can, and with over 40 people now downloading this things can go slow. YES I will continue to seed but will slow it down some over the weekend when I am home and not sleeping so I can actually use my internet connection.
[that's alright, it took a few days but it's downloaded]
4. unzip the .iso using winrar.
[what Iso? It was .rar format, when unrar'd there was only a .uif format file... so I burnt the uif file to disk, I'm assuming that you have to open the uif with magic iso, convert it to an .iso file and then burn that iso file to a DL DVD.]
5. use magiciso to burn it to a DOUBLE LAYER DVD, not a regular 4.7 gig DVD.
[done]
6. When asked for the password before burning use the password "avic"
[done]
7. Let it burn, and go put it in your AVIC unit and it will upgrade, this is your map disk from now on.
[it upgraded, now it's asking for the proper disk]
If you have a problem then you fail at reading directions. Everything I posted here is what you need. It has also all been explained numerous times in this thread. Stop PMing me, I have things to do, not babysit.
[followed you exact instructions, seems like you missed a step though]
Cheers! and thanks to the people seeding and following directions.
[don't worry, I have a 2.4 share ratio with the torrent]
can you help me out and upload to my ftp? I've been on torrent for 12 hours now and only at 47%!