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New PAC SWI-PS..

By mattlach · Jan 10, 2009in General💬 87 posts👁️ 19,339 views
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Posted Jan 10, 2009 · 03:10 UTC#1

...with better support for the AVIC line of head units!

 

I had heard rumors about this, but not seen any real information, so I figured I'd ask PAC directly.

 

See my discussion with them below:

 

To Whom it May Concern,

 

I just read on the internet that a new version of the PAC SWI-PS is about to be released that has better support for the Pioneer AVIC-F Series.

 

I am currently waiting to install my Pioneer AVIC F-90BT until I can get the proper steering wheel interface that works with it.

 

I have a few questions:

 

1.) Has the new unit been released? If not, when will it be released?

 

2.) The existing model already has partial support for the F Series.

a.) How will the new unit improve upon this?

b.) Will there be a way to activate the multi-button (voice command initialization) from the steering wheel?

 

I am eager to hear back from you and get my hands on the new unit.

 

Thank you very much for your time,

 

--Matt

 

The new Pioneer F-series stereos do not have preset function running through the wired remote input. So we say that SWI-PS is not 100% compatible if you have a preset button on your steering wheel. It will control the volume and seek and source/mode. Pioneer has elected to not change the way their new head units work.

 

Our SWI-PS(late January) will only change in the way it will now support the Bluetooth button if your vehicle is equipped with it.

 

PAC

 

Just to clarfy. This blutooth button. What command does it send to head units? Does it trigger voice dial?

 

There appears to be very little publicly available documentation on this topic.

 

Thanks again,

Matt

 

Actually, I really don’t have any information on this yet and it hasn’t been released to the public yet..

 

I will know more this weekend. (presumably he is talking about taking the unit to CES.)

 

PAC

 

Thank you.

 

I appreciate your reply. Do you know when I will be able to buy this new version?

 

How will I be able to tell the difference between this model and the old one? Is there a revision number?

 

Thanks again,

Matt

 

There will be a revision number and it should be available late January/early February.

 

PAC

 

So now I just have to figure out what I want to do.

 

I am eager to get the unit in there, but if this "bluetooth" command triggers the multi-button voice command activation then I might be willing to wait.

 

maybe I'll have it installed without the steering wheel controls at first, and retrofit it later when we know more about this new revision...

Posted Jan 10, 2009 · 03:36 UTC#2

Damnit, i really hope Pioneer fixes the preset problem in the next firmware. It really annoys me having to use the touchscreen to change the station all the time.

 

Let me know if this does in fact activate the VR button. My A4 has a voice control button on the wheel that I would love to use for the VR.

Posted Jan 14, 2009 · 20:40 UTC#3

Any update on this? I installed my f90bt last week and have been dying to use the steering wheel controls.

Posted Jan 14, 2009 · 21:11 UTC#4
Any update on this? I installed my f90bt last week and have been dying to use the steering wheel controls.

 

I have not heard any news yet, and there is - as of yet nothing new on their web page (at least not that I can find)

 

Admittedly, they did say late January - early February, so i guess its just a matter of sitting tight and waiting.

Posted Jan 15, 2009 · 02:00 UTC#5

the guy who instaleld it said for my scion xb i need a remote so they can program the pac

Posted Jan 15, 2009 · 02:09 UTC#6
the guy who instaleld it said for my scion xb i need a remote so they can program the pac

 

Depends on which pac you use.

 

If you use a PAC SWI-X you need a remote to program it, as this unit emulates an IR-remote control.

 

This unit is - however - not compatible with the AVIC F Series as it does not accept wireless remote signals.

 

For the F-Series you need the PAC SWI-PS, which is a wired remote input. It physically plugs into the back of the F-Series head unit. This does not require a remote fro programming, but the programming of the unit is somewhat tedious.

 

See this manual for more info

Posted Jan 16, 2009 · 21:30 UTC#7

I just checked with our engineering department.The buletooth fuction will only be used to answer/end calls. There will be no voice function as far as we know.

 

Again, our part will only do so much.Pionner hasnt been to easy to want to make changes based on all of the complaints.

Posted Jan 24, 2009 · 07:23 UTC#8

It's late January, any update on when this will be available?

Posted Jan 30, 2009 · 20:49 UTC#9

We should be recieving them any day now, waiting for packaging and header cards

Posted Jan 30, 2009 · 21:37 UTC#10

I just got one in the other day, it was the same model number but instead of it being the black box PAC always has it was a newer looking flashy blue box. No where on it though did it state anything about bluetooth button or anything like that I believe the date of manufacturing was 1-21, if there is a new one i wish i would have waited!!!

Posted Jan 30, 2009 · 22:01 UTC#11

there wont be any visible signs of being the newer part except for a revision number.The other problem is that most dealers will sell through their old stock before ordering or stocking the new revision

Posted Jan 30, 2009 · 22:11 UTC#12

WHat will the revision number be so we know what to look for?

Posted Jan 30, 2009 · 22:16 UTC#13

I dont have that information yet, but i will post it up as soon as i get it

Posted Feb 12, 2009 · 05:35 UTC#14

1pacman, any new info?

Posted Feb 12, 2009 · 20:03 UTC#15

I do have the new version number. Its 1.6.7, but dont look for it on the shelf till the old version is sold outm so maybe March???

 

Dont kill the messenger :(

Posted Feb 12, 2009 · 20:15 UTC#16

Thanks, were you ever able to verify what the actual changes were?

Posted Feb 12, 2009 · 20:27 UTC#17

The only difference is the blue tooth feature was added to intitiate/end a call. Any voice recognition is dependent on the head unit.

 

It will now also work with the AVH models.

Posted Feb 12, 2009 · 22:15 UTC#18
The only difference is the blue tooth feature was added to intitiate/end a call. Any voice recognition is dependent on the head unit.

 

It will now also work with the AVH models.

 

I've purchased a PAC SWI-PS for use with my Pioneer Avic In Dash GPS Headunit. My car is a 2008 Scion xB.

 

I purchased said product through Crutchfield.com, and I've exchanged it 3 times already in hopes it was just a faulty product.

 

My problem relates to the programming, on the Scion xB, the steering wheel controls has Volume Up, Volume Down, Track Up, Track Down, and Source (Mode)

 

I can program volume up/down fine, skip mute, and program Track Up/down fine as well, but when I get to my "Source/mode" button, no matter how long I hold the button, the PAC unit does not indicate I have a button pressed.

 

I know I have all the wiring correct. I've spoken with the Crutchfield team, and they all mention that it should be working and to contact PAC directly.

 

I have a feeling maybe the PAC controllers that Crutchfield keeps sending me are outdated firmware wise...is it possible to do an exchange directly with you guys the manufacturer to get the newest firmware? I'm located in Southern California as well, so hopefully you can help me out. I want to spread the good news about PAC products to my scion car club online and in person, but having a non-working button is really a downer.

What really sucks is that Crutchfield will no longer let me exchange OR return the product anymore. :(

 

 

Does anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong here? I followed the instructions here EXACTLY:

 

http://www.pac-audio.com/swixprogrammin ... les&ID=386

Posted Feb 12, 2009 · 22:50 UTC#19

Didnt you already send a e-mail to our tech department??? :wink:

Posted Feb 13, 2009 · 00:43 UTC#20
Didnt you already send a e-mail to our tech department??? :wink:

 

I've actually sent 2 emails to the department.

 

no technical response received :(

 

Just a friendly sales guy saying he reads the tech department's emails?

Posted Feb 13, 2009 · 16:57 UTC#21
Didnt you already send a e-mail to our tech department??? :wink:

 

I've actually sent 2 emails to the department.

 

no technical response received :(

 

Just a friendly sales guy saying he reads the tech department's emails?

I will get an answer for you or you can call our tech department, that would be faster. 800-854-3133 press 3 for tech.
Posted Mar 08, 2009 · 00:28 UTC#22

Anyone know where to get the new revision of the SWI-PS? Thanks!

Posted Mar 08, 2009 · 03:40 UTC#23

i need this

Posted Mar 09, 2009 · 06:24 UTC#24

I am doing the newest SWI-JACk tomorrow in a '04 540i on a 700BT.

 

Sure hope it is the new revision...cause if it isn't, I am gonna find one and swap it out later.

 

Will post results soon.

 

Luke

Posted Mar 09, 2009 · 08:25 UTC#25

Hey everyone,

 

I have been reading your post...

 

I spoke to PAC last week and they advised that the unit may be available by mid March, depending if the old stock is sold out...

 

I was advised in an email that the new revsion would be 1.6.5, this was from an email from PAC's tech support...

 

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