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By theE40punisher · Jan 22, 2009in Vehicle Specific Wiring💬 67 posts👁️ 21,274 views
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Posted Jan 22, 2009 · 15:20 UTC#1

Just FYI. I am a 15 year Circuit installer that just found out im going to be jobless. Because of the buyout of the company, the new company has given me home access to the Firedog wiring database for the next few months to do service work. SOOOOOOOOOOO,

 

if anyone needs some help with wiring color/location on speakers, VSS help or remstart, just ask! I would like to help out as long as I can.

 

E40

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 02:26 UTC#3

Know where I can tap into a reverse signal wire in a 2004 G35? And the VSS wire is green/white right?

 

Thanks

 

Pete

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 02:56 UTC#4

I have VSS WIRE- White/green- Behind radio, in harness and Reverse wire is - REVERSE LIGHTS-Orange-Under driver's side running board BUT!!!!! the reverse wire says unconfirmed. it using the 350 as a cross ref. the VSS is good to go but I need to do more research to find the Reverse wire. If you have a meter you can check that orange wire and if it switches 12volts in reverse then your good to go, but would not just hook it up untill I find out more info.

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 02:59 UTC#5

alright, thanks a lot! I'll wait until you find out for me

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 03:15 UTC#6

is your G35 a coupe or sedan?

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 03:28 UTC#7

2004 G35X Sedan

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 03:41 UTC#8

SWEET! I still have some DEI tech sheets left. It says for the 2004 g35 sedan it is ORANGE (+) at the DRIVERS KICK PANEL. For some reason it is different for the 2 and 4 door models. But thats sounds good. Both sheets are telling me the same thing now. With all new cars, I would still check all wires before you hook them up but, it sounds like it should be good to go.

 

Ill be happy to help with anything else you need. Just let me know. Just make sure your 90bt is updated with the newest software so it dosent take 4 hours to boot up! I also have access to the Pioneer Dealer Portal so if you need any tech from that let me know.

 

E

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 03:46 UTC#9

awesome! Thanks a lot for all the help

so does that mean I can run that as the power to the camera? or do you not think it would hold enough current?

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 03:55 UTC#10

NO! sorry, no. That is not a high current wire. It will need to go to the Reverse Gear Input on the 90BT. It is the VIOLET/WHITE wire on the 90BT. This will cause the 90BT to switch to the Back up cam input. the cam needs to be hook up to a KNOWN load supporting wire. Like behind the radio or fused at the main harness. I would just run it behind the radio. and you should be good to go. I have hooked up the audiovox back up cam a lot to that unit but the Pioneer ND-BC2 works great also.

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 04:01 UTC#11

Alright... Thats kinda what I figured, but Where would you reccomend I get power for the camera then? Straight from the reverse light?

 

Sorry to kind of thread jack, but this is pretty much to the point

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 04:07 UTC#12

ummmm, depending on the cam. I would extend it to behind the radio. You have to run the Video input up there anyway. The wires running the radio have enough power to support the cam too. Then you have no worries of frying something, Worst thing would be blowing the radio fuse. Thats what I would do anyway.

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 04:29 UTC#13

can you tell me where the vss wire is on an 08 cobalt ss by chance?

Posted Jan 23, 2009 · 06:13 UTC#14

UMMMMM, hummmm. here is the deal. The 08 Colbalt has the GM LAN data bus. its nasty. The VSS in the car is a DATA transmission. SOOOO, you can not get it or hook up to it at all. I even checked the LAN adapters and they will not convert the DATA signal for you. (that I have found) I have checked with different sources and all say "?" I know someone that has a 06 Colbalt and he got his VSS at the WHEEL SENSOR. I checked with Pioneer and the tech info says a analog VSS is not on a 08 Colbalt. SOOOOOOO, your kinda stuck. Unless someone has a way of mapping the car I cant really help you.

 

This is what I do know >>>>> The 08 is all GM LAN BUS and the 06 was GM class II data bus. Class II data bus was analog at the wheel (it uses magnets to count wheel rotation) to the computer then changed to data. The GM CLASS II DATA Wiring harness from METRA did convert the data to a usable analog wire which was super sweet. BUT, yours is not CLASS II but LAN and as far as I know, the LAN adapter does NOT convert this wire. SO, I can do some more looking but your only choice might to be pulling off tires to find the wheel sensor and hooking up to it. It sucks I know but YOU SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL PUTTING A RADIO IN YOUR CAR. The LAN data is NOT FORGIVING. I believe the non bose version for you car is LAN03. All the other LAN adapters will plug in too but if it not the right one, POOF! call a tow truck and pay GM a few grand to replace control modules. Im not being mean but some one in my shop plugged a GM LAN 03 into a LAN 06 and the turned the key on. $2600.00 bill for GM to fix it.

 

SO, in conclusion, I say if there is a Cobalt forum somewhere I would ask around on it to see if someone has found it. other than that Its either buy a VSS kit which will add a VSS wire to any car or pull tires till you find the sensor or see if you can find a radio wiring harness that does LAN and VSS (if someone makes one). DO NOT GUESS ON ANY WIRE IN YOUR CAR. USE A WIRING HARNESS MADE EXACTLY FOR YOUR CAR AND ANY WIRE YOU THINK IS A VSS WIRE NEEDS TO BE CHECKED WITH A MULTIMETER BEFORE YOU HOOK ANYTHING UP TO IT.

 

OK?

 

OK

 

I know thats a lot but thats the deal.

 

hit me back if you need anything else.

Posted Jan 24, 2009 · 03:46 UTC#15

how do you wire the pac tr 7 to the 4000dvd? looked everywhere for this. what wire goes where?

Posted Jan 24, 2009 · 03:50 UTC#16

how do you wire the pac tr 7 to the 4000dvd? looked everywhere for this. what wire goes where?

Posted Jan 24, 2009 · 04:25 UTC#17

What are u trying to do with it?

Posted Jan 24, 2009 · 05:12 UTC#18

Hey punisher,

 

Sorry to hear about your job, but thanks for offering to help with questions. I've got a 2000 Toyota MR2 spyder and I need to locate the VSS wire, as well as the Reverse wire in order to hook my new F-90bt up correctly.

 

Thanks in advance

- Jerros.

Posted Jan 24, 2009 · 07:15 UTC#19

wow thanks for finding all that info out for me. after hearing all that i might not even hook the vss wire up. i dont think its worth the hassle. if i lose reception from the gps ill just deal until i get it back. i never go anywhere that it shoudl be super important. i do have one more question for you tho...my ss has onstar and the pioneer premium sound system, i picked up the gmos lan 04 harness. this is what i was told i needed for this car. can you confirm this? it says 06 and up gm.

Posted Jan 24, 2009 · 08:17 UTC#20

Punisher,

 

I have an 05 F150 FX4 Supercab and was wondering where I could find the reverse wire to hook up my back up cam. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Posted Jan 24, 2009 · 15:03 UTC#21
What are u trying to do with it?

to have the dvd playing while driving. 2 kids to keep quite.

Posted Jan 25, 2009 · 16:48 UTC#22

OK, the Colbalt with BOSE should be a GMOSLAN04. The GMOS04 is the for the class II data bus on GM 03-07ish. you can pull the radio and look at the harness and if it does not look like the one you have (GMOS04) then go exchange it for the LAN04. The LAN04 and the OS04 look different. More than likely the LAN will be more money. At Circuit we sold the GMOS04 for 99.99 and the LAN04 was 249.99! I think the prices went up on it too. anyway, thats the deal. any car stereo shop should be able to tell you 100% what you need buy looking at you car manufacture date and looking it up. But what I have listed for you car is GMOSLAN04. (08 colbalt with BOSE)

Posted Jan 25, 2009 · 16:59 UTC#23

OK, I have lost 1 of my 3 databases. and the other 2 dont list a Reverse wire for your truck. SOOOOOOO, i would eithe cruse the Internet to find it OR the much faster way would be to install the cam and when you run the wire down one side stop when you get the corner tail light, pull out the light assembly (which should be cake) find the back up bulb, grab the reverse wire from there and run it with the cam video and power wire to the radio. it should only take a few mins extra. the only thing is you will need a way of testing the 2 wires that are there. one stays ground all the time and one switches to 12volts when the truck is in reverse to light the bulb.

 

Sorry, but I just dont have the listing for that wire right now. If you need any help checking it or any questions just hit me back.

 

E

Posted Jan 26, 2009 · 02:17 UTC#24

e40, I have kind of a dumb question,but I haven't put in a car stereo in 30 years. I am looking at putting a f90bt in a 2006 silverado without bose and without onstar. I do have steering wheel controls. I know I need the pac swi-ps for steering wheel control. I also need the pac cr2-gm24 for factory chimes. My dumb question is this, Do I wire in the 2 harnesses , plug in the f90 to the cr2 not connect speaker outs , run the pre-amps to amp, then from amp to speakers?

 

Tom

Posted Jan 26, 2009 · 21:42 UTC#25

Punisher, thanks for helping out. I was wondering where is the VSS wire and Ebrake wire on a 2005 Avalanche. I got my unit and i am just waiting for the PAC plugs to arrive before i install. Once again, Thanks!

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