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F-Series 3.0 update coming? Wondering what's in it...

By Danno · Feb 24, 2009in General💬 271 posts👁️ 59,048 views
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Posted May 06, 2009 · 02:11 UTC#126

I would really love to see iGo 8.3+ in the next update. I have 8.3.1 on my Nokia 500 and it's a good improvement over 8.0.

 

Tim

Posted May 06, 2009 · 19:30 UTC#127

I would KILL for that F9110BT. That would fit PERFECTLY in my 07 Jetta. God knows they will never bring it stateside :( . I can't find a decent double din dash kit that really matches the rest of the softtouch plastics on the dash. I've even paid $80 for ones from Europe, but the fitment was crap. This looks absolutely awesome if I could ever get my hands on one. Who knows, maybe Pioneer is going to announce a line of factory-fit models for the US, similar to the ones at Crutchfield, where they have one for GM, one for Chrysler, one for Toyotas, Ford etc. I could maybe see that happening as many car manufacturers are using pretty much the same radio openings in all their new lineups. God that would be awesome.

Posted May 06, 2009 · 21:05 UTC#128
The newer iGo maps support 3d city landscapes.. This image suggests this is not the case. So firmware.. maybe, but maps not.

 

The one in both yours and cfdezg's posts appear to support 3d city landscapes - that building is a 3d icon in both posts if I'm not mistaken.

 

Also, the map display looks updated/much better in cfdezg's post. The time in OS 2.0's stock display - and in your example - is horrendous. cfdezg's example also has a nicer three dimensional look to the path arrows.

 

Perhaps this is a preview of what the new firmware map update will look like afterall?

Posted May 06, 2009 · 21:40 UTC#129
The one in both yours and cfdezg's posts appear to support 3d city landscapes - that building is a 3d icon in both posts if I'm not mistaken.

 

Also, the map display looks updated/much better in cfdezg's post. The time in OS 2.0's stock display - and in your example - is horrendous. cfdezg's example also has a nicer three dimensional look to the path arrows.

 

Perhaps this is a preview of what the new firmware map update will look like afterall?

 

Nothing that some skin editing couldn't fix even in current version.

 

8.3 does add some features (and could be lighter/faster) but visual-wise it looks pretty much exactly the same as 8.0, except for displaying road signs, like Navigon...

Posted May 07, 2009 · 16:17 UTC#130
Maybe F-Series 3.0 is already emboddied in new F9110BT alredy announced by Piooner UK with VW/Skoda/Seat form factor.

 

If you check the image there are slights changes on the pic announced.

📎 avic-f9110bt.jpg

In my opinion I think the F9110bt is a waste of space... all Pioneer did was re-package the F900 with a different bezel. If this is going to be a VW factory option I would want it to be at least 7" or 8" screen, it's not like they don't have the room. If I was buying a new VW Jetta or JTI I would get the standard Nav unit, but that me.

Posted May 08, 2009 · 02:36 UTC#131

Bug Fixes and software updates should be free of charge.

 

Maps updates should cost money.

 

They should be separate.

Posted May 12, 2009 · 03:32 UTC#132
Bug Fixes and software updates should be free of charge.

 

Maps updates should cost money.

 

They should be separate.

 

Bug fixes should be free BUT, any update that offers new features is worthy of a price tag.

Posted May 12, 2009 · 08:16 UTC#133
Bug Fixes and software updates should be free of charge.

 

Maps updates should cost money.

 

They should be separate.

 

Bug fixes should be free BUT, any update that offers new features is worthy of a price tag.

 

If the bug fixes and new features are bound, it should be free.

 

If they are separate, I can justify charging for new features. I will not pay for functionality that was advertised and not delivered.

Posted May 12, 2009 · 12:17 UTC#134

When will the update come out, Juin, july, august :?:

I find nothing about it on the internet :(

Posted May 12, 2009 · 13:43 UTC#135

I hope it will use 8.3 IGO when it comes out. The TMC function we use in europe is horrible.

You cannot see what traffic is on your route so you can choose re guidense or not. All you can see is teh entire list and the ones that are on you route are in the top position. only knowing your route you know wich traffic jams are ahead on you route. If you not know with your destination you have no glue if you have trafic jams.

In 8.3 you will see all that information on your screen.

Posted May 17, 2009 · 22:22 UTC#136

Any updated ETA on 3.0?

Posted May 18, 2009 · 03:50 UTC#137
Bug Fixes and software updates should be free of charge.

 

Maps updates should cost money.

 

They should be separate.

 

Bug fixes should be free BUT, any update that offers new features is worthy of a price tag.

 

If the bug fixes and new features are bound, it should be free.

 

If they are separate, I can justify charging for new features. I will not pay for functionality that was advertised and not delivered.

 

That does not make sense. Bug fixes allow the unit to do what it was advertised to do. I do not expect any new features to be added later when i buy a product, i just expect it to work.

Posted May 19, 2009 · 06:37 UTC#138

Just contacted Pioneer headquarters in Belgium and they said that new Firmware for F-900BT (european model) will be released in june. They also said that there is a possibility that it will include new Navteq maps which replace TeleAtlas. So at least in Europe, I think we have to buy the firmware/maps package because the old version of firmware doesn't support Navteq maps (according to Pioneer).

Posted May 19, 2009 · 08:54 UTC#139
Just contacted Pioneer headquarters in Belgium and they said that new Firmware for F-900BT (european model) will be released in june. They also said that there is a possibility that it will include new Navteq maps which replace TeleAtlas. So at least in Europe, I think we have to buy the firmware/maps package because the old version of firmware doesn't support Navteq maps (according to Pioneer).

 

And also for the F-700BT i hope :wink:

Posted May 19, 2009 · 09:54 UTC#140

Correct me if I'm wrong, but moving from teleatlas to Navteq would imply IGO 8,3 ! :D

Posted May 19, 2009 · 10:58 UTC#141
Just contacted Pioneer headquarters in Belgium and they said that new Firmware for F-900BT (european model) will be released in june. They also said that there is a possibility that it will include new Navteq maps which replace TeleAtlas. So at least in Europe, I think we have to buy the firmware/maps package because the old version of firmware doesn't support Navteq maps (according to Pioneer).

 

And also for the F-700BT i hope :wink:

 

Yes, they said that the update is for F-Series.

Posted May 19, 2009 · 22:40 UTC#142

Well I donno whats going on, but I just got my unit back from pioneer and although it says its ver 2.0 the software boots up way faster, touch screen is way faster, it could just be my mind playing with me (i haven't had it in 3 weeks) but something is fishy here.

 

Brad :)

Posted May 20, 2009 · 04:50 UTC#143

Check the info screen, that'll tell you for sure.

Posted May 21, 2009 · 08:44 UTC#144
Check the info screen, that'll tell you for sure.

and let us know

Posted May 22, 2009 · 13:39 UTC#145
Check the info screen, that'll tell you for sure.

and let us know

 

:?::?::?::wink:

Posted May 22, 2009 · 14:50 UTC#146

ya the info says 2.0 just like I said in the original post but now that im playing around with it the boot up only takes about 15-20 or so secs (as oppose to the 35+) but everything else is slow as sh|t. I even had my first boot up not working screen yesterday GEEER I spoke too soon

Posted May 25, 2009 · 02:27 UTC#147

So are we going to get any more hints to what the 3.0 firmware will bring, or even better the exact date?

Posted May 25, 2009 · 08:29 UTC#148

According to a Pioneer rep I spoke to last week, looks like the entire F-series is going to be replaced by a new, improved X-series in June. The new product line should be announced publicly within the next three weeks.

Posted May 25, 2009 · 13:20 UTC#149
According to a Pioneer rep I spoke to last week, looks like the entire F-series is going to be replaced by a new, improved X-series in June. The new product line should be announced publicly within the next three weeks.

The F-series is but 1 jear old. :roll:

I hope that pioneer don't forget the firmware update for the "old" F-series :(

Posted May 25, 2009 · 13:42 UTC#150

I doubt that there is an X-Series coming to replace the F-Series for several reasons:

 

a) The F-Series is a good platform, just the software is sucks

 

B) Pioneer would loose an estimated 90% of F-Series buyers as future customers for their whole product range

 

c) They are just lauching the F-910bt as an Volkswagen option

 

I'm expecting 2 packages:

 

1) Cost free firmware update with further bug fixes. Optional Tele Atlas Map update at a cost

 

2) "Upgrade" firmware update with new Navteq Maps, IGO 8.3 and further bug fixes at a quite significant cost.

 

If they negotiate clever with IGO and Navteq they should be able to fund their development costs.

 

Everything else is a no go

 

Jörg

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