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F900BT reboots over and over - Very weird - HELP!!

By impulsive.ca · Mar 14, 2009in Problems/Troubleshooting💬 187 posts👁️ 67,460 views
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Posted Mar 27, 2009 · 16:36 UTC#26

Vegas, it worked GREAT! The system is now full functional :D . I really like this unit and all it's features but I must say, Pioneer messed up on this one - I really hope they release some REALLY GOOD fixes and updates for this in the future or they could end up losing ALOT of customers in the Navigation scene. Anyway, I am a happy camper once again and I decided that sadly, I will have to keep an "Emergency SD Testmode Card" in the vehicle at all times (like insurance lol) so that if this thing craps out on me while I somewhere in the middle of the U.S. I can reset the files and (hopefully) be back on track.

 

I do have one question, so when I delete those files you mentioned - does it erase all my setting, contacts, addresses, etc. etc? Because when I restarted the system, it acted like it was brand new again and wanted me to input my preferred voice and language, etc...

 

Anyway, thanks again Vegas - you made my day so much better - now I can go finish up my installation... :o

Posted Mar 27, 2009 · 18:12 UTC#27

pcguy760 you are welcome. I hoped it will work for somebody else as well. As far as resetting all your preferences... It should not. It did not change any of my settings.

 

Cheers

Posted Mar 27, 2009 · 18:48 UTC#28

If that is indeed what fixed yours, apparently my unit keeps re-creating bad files. I have tired everyting except an entanna. I don't want to pay $45 on a antenna not knowing if that would fix the problem. It looks like this one is going back. I spent way to much time trying to fix it than actually enjoying it. Seriously though, if you spend that much money on something, it should not be expected of you to do R&D work for all the highly paid engineers at Pioneer. They should test, test and retest to remove all the bugs out of the system. And when that's done, they should have a few hundreds beta units on the field around the country (or world) testing the units for months before they release it. That way when consumers get a unit they would not have to join a forum site to keep it running.

 

If it was just me and or a couple people having this problem, I would understand. Hey, things happen. But when a lot of people are having the same issue, then it must be a poorly designed, or tested product.

 

I'm sorry for ranting, but that is how I feel. Even if you fix this for now, it can later embarrass you in front of a client, customer, or even a "hot chick" when you show up late because you got lost and you relied on your GPS system and all it does is reboot itself.

Posted Mar 28, 2009 · 00:33 UTC#29

Jay I agree with you and it is a bunch of B.S. that we have to start tryin to fix this out of the box and yeah those Engineers do make big bucks so why is this "Lemon" edition out? I think they should get a pay cut for having us fix the damn thing lol. Anyway, although it is working now - I am still paranoid of it crapping out and that is not good - also the fact I gotta keep a "Testmode" SD card with me all the time, just in case - personally is ridiculous I think.

 

I dunno, if this thing craps out again on me WHILE I am in much need of it, I think I might rip it out of the dash and throw it out on the highway, in the bushes that is lol. Seriously, I feel your pain and I really pee'd off yesterday cos I just bought the thing and it was already "broke"!!???! Maybe Pioneer was over their heads with this one and tried to cram too much stuff in one unit or maybe to keep up with competition in haste??

 

Well if it gives me crap again I think I am gonna go "back" to the old faithful Avic-D3 - aaah the good ole days...

Posted Mar 28, 2009 · 00:38 UTC#30
pcguy760 you are welcome. I hoped it will work for somebody else as well. As far as resetting all your preferences... It should not. It did not change any of my settings.

 

Cheers

 

Hey yeah it did - I just checked but I also did a full reset after that too so you think that might have did it? Oh well, its ok even if it did cos its working now!! I hate to say it, but like I mentioned before if it does crap on me again, its out the window and I am gonna find me a nice old D3. I somewhat regret selling my D3 now... somewhat, sometimes, I dunno but thats not good considering I just got this...

Posted Mar 29, 2009 · 20:41 UTC#31

Vegas,

 

My f900bt has been rebooting since 12/27/08, since driving back from a holiday gathering. I hadn't even been able to get it into test mode. Today I was going to take it out to send it back to Pioneer since it's finally warm up here in NY. I decided to look here to see if there was something new I could try. I found your post, got the thing to boot into testmode by clicking the sd card in and out until it picked up on it - figured I was sending it back anyway, so what the hey. I got it into test mode, got rid of those files and it works now. Even the gps can find my location now. Previously, it would work sometimes, but the map was frozen on the place I was when it broke. I really hope this fix stays. What a pain!

 

I am very greatful for your information. Please message me with your paypal. I would like to give you a small token of appreciation for the hassle and shipping you just saved me.

 

Janet

Posted Mar 29, 2009 · 20:57 UTC#32

Janet,

 

I am just glad it worked for you as well.

 

Regards

Posted Mar 30, 2009 · 02:29 UTC#33
Vegas,

 

My f900bt has been rebooting since 12/27/08, since driving back from a holiday gathering. I hadn't even been able to get it into test mode. Today I was going to take it out to send it back to Pioneer since it's finally warm up here in NY. I decided to look here to see if there was something new I could try. I found your post, got the thing to boot into testmode by clicking the sd card in and out until it picked up on it - figured I was sending it back anyway, so what the hey. I got it into test mode, got rid of those files and it works now. Even the gps can find my location now. Previously, it would work sometimes, but the map was frozen on the place I was when it broke. I really hope this fix stays. What a pain!

 

I am very greatful for your information. Please message me with your paypal. I would like to give you a small token of appreciation for the hassle and shipping you just saved me.

 

Janet

I will be doing the same tomorrow when I in fact get my Pioneer re-installed. If this IS a good solution, I will as well send my token of appreciation!

Posted Apr 02, 2009 · 00:31 UTC#34

Deleting those 4 files absolutely fixed it. This worked like a charm for me! I went from :x : to :D Thank you Vegas for your insight, you saved me a whole lot of headaches. Also, a huge thanks to another gsxr 1k for sharing his original flash disk with me (I didn't need them but its great to have them archived just in case) . Check your PM's, I sent you both itunes gift cards.

Posted Apr 05, 2009 · 00:38 UTC#35
1. Put the SD Card with the testmode folders in the root directory of the SD Card.

2. Turn the ignition on

3. In testmode go to Start->Programs->Windows Explorer

4. Click on "My Flash Disk" and you will see a bunch of folders and files

5. Click on Edit menu and select all (or at least the files you are planning to delete - gpspara0.bin, gpspara1.bin, gpspara2.bin and gpspara3.bin)

6. Go up one level to see the SD Card that you used to boot into test mode

7. Double click, Edit menu and paste

8. Go back to the "My Flash Disk" root directory and delete the above mentioned files

9. Turn off the ignition and take the SD Card out

10. Turn your ignition on and it should work just fine.

 

Let me know if it helps.

 

Confirmed - this worked for me!!!! At least for the 15-20 minute test drive I just took with only the radio on - but hey, 15-20 minutes of uninterrupted operation is about 15-20 times better than what I've had over the last several months. Thanks so much to Vegas for figuring this aspect of the issue out and GSXR for paving the way with the software back up. I sent the unit back to Pioneer and tried many of the other firmware fixes listed on this forum to no avail.

 

Deleting files did not work for me because when I deleted file "gpspara0.bin" and tried to delete the other ones, "gpspara0.bin" which i already deleted reappears. It does that for all the other one. They keep showing up again.

 

If you're talking about them reappearing right away after they were deleted while still in the same test mode session, I noticed this too. After some toying around, I found they didn't reappear when I deleted them in reverse order (ie gpspara3.bin then gpspara2.bin, etc.)

Posted Apr 14, 2009 · 21:44 UTC#36

Im also having a reboot issue with my avicf900. I had it installed at a local car audio installer. Unit seems to work fine until I start driving. Took truck back and they told me they put in a switch to act as the parking brake. The radio reboots continuously while in motion. Does the parking brake lead have to be physically connected to the power of the parking brake. Is there another way to bypass this? Possibly another issue?

Posted Apr 16, 2009 · 03:21 UTC#37
Im also having a reboot issue with my avicf900. I had it installed at a local car audio installer. Unit seems to work fine until I start driving. Took truck back and they told me they put in a switch to act as the parking brake. The radio reboots continuously while in motion. Does the parking brake lead have to be physically connected to the power of the parking brake. Is there another way to bypass this? Possibly another issue?

 

have them do the hardware bypass and lose that switch. you just switch two wires in the harness and ground the park brake and mute wire, iirc. the how to is around here, probably stickied.

 

edit: i would print this out and take it to them.

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=17013

Posted Apr 16, 2009 · 19:10 UTC#38

hi guys! it didn't worked for me! i deleted those gps files and my stereo remains rebooting every 5 minutes!! pleasse help me! thanks

Posted Apr 16, 2009 · 19:35 UTC#39

Patrick,

 

Did you just have the system installed? Was it professionally installed? Do you have the latest firmware from Pioneer? I am try to deduce if it is hardware or software issue.

Posted Apr 17, 2009 · 19:28 UTC#40

It was installed for professionals, worked very fine, it's a software problem, happens when I tried to install a data.zip of GTImatts, I've already tried to restore igo backup and deleted those files, now a tried to re-install firmware 2.0 but it wont start because i already have the 2.0, does anyone knows how to hard reset and if it works? I'm going crazy here, my unit just reboots over and over every 5 minutes!!! Help me and sorry for my english, I'm brazilian!

Posted Apr 17, 2009 · 23:21 UTC#41

Patrick,

 

another gsxr 1k user has a backup of his system and he was providing it to whoever needed it. He may be able to give you his backup and you can try to resolve it that way. Send him a message.

Posted Apr 19, 2009 · 19:30 UTC#42

Thanks Vegas, I'll shoot Patrick a PM and see what his status is and try to get him up and running again.

Like you said, I've been making the backup available to folks that ask, and will probably continue to do so.

Posted Apr 19, 2009 · 20:20 UTC#43

I am looking for a F900BT backup as well. Can someone help me please?

 

Thanks

Posted Apr 20, 2009 · 01:43 UTC#44

Thanks guys, a downloaded the unit back up and restored my unit!

Thanks God it works!!!!!

I realize that my problem was some schemes that I downloaded here, when a changed my map colors it starts reboot, so here is my newbs advice, be careful about the schemes maybe you'll have the same problem as me! If that happens you'll only need to restore a full back up!!

Thank you all for the atencion!

Posted Apr 25, 2009 · 06:28 UTC#45

My F90BT Just Started Doing This Tonight.

Comes on for about 5 minutes and reboots.

The system startup stays there I can still Play music buts it's really irritating.

Is the fix the same as with the 900?

Is there anyway i can get this backup?

How do i get test mode?

I'm really frustrated with it and any help would be appreciated.

Posted Apr 25, 2009 · 07:33 UTC#46

Please search the forum for test mode files download and how to get in test mode. After that try deleting the files I have mentioned in this forum. F90BT should work just fine with the same method. If not please see the above post and request a fresh backup.

If you still have a problem pm me.

Posted Apr 26, 2009 · 00:47 UTC#47
My F90BT Just Started Doing This Tonight.

Comes on for about 5 minutes and reboots.

The system startup stays there I can still Play music buts it's really irritating.

Is the fix the same as with the 900?

Is there anyway i can get this backup?

How do i get test mode?

I'm really frustrated with it and any help would be appreciated.

 

If the f900bt fix does not work for you i have the F90BT backup below.

 

http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=21618&p=160394&hilit=f90bt+backup#p158522

Posted Apr 26, 2009 · 12:53 UTC#48

My unit also has the reboot problem. It started after i released the clutch too fast and the engine stalled. I immedeately ignited it again (perhaps this messed up the system?) and since then it keeps rebooting in a continuous cycle, not with intervals or so. I updated to the latest firmware, and after that deleted those 4 mentioned files: both had no effect.

 

Any idea's what else i can try? This is a full service lease car, but since i installed some hacks months ago. (this cannot be the cause, drove over 10.000km since without problems) I am a bit worried of them finding out my changes and blaming the problem on me....

Posted Apr 26, 2009 · 20:41 UTC#49

I have gotten mine to boot up, but it shows the system startup in progress...please wait, screen and that doesnt go away. I can listen to the radio or cd with no problem, but will eventually reboot. I deleted those gpspara files, to no avail that did not work for me. I have a copy of myfashdisk I downloaded off of someone, but not sure if it was for the f90bt, so I will downloads gsxr and copy those over and see how that goes.

Posted Apr 27, 2009 · 01:00 UTC#50

That's exactly what mine is doing.

The please wait screen comes up and i can listen to music for 4 minutes at a time before it reboots.

Trying to get the files downloaded that minifreezer posted.

I don't want to send it to Pioneer.

I just want it to work.

I'm pretty bummed that it just craps out.

Not sure why they haven't released some kind of fix yet since so many people are having this problem.

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