JohnnyThunder, you said exactly where I am at. i don't want to send it to Pioneer, and I am downloading Minifreezer's files as well.

I called Pioneer this morning and they told me that if the parking brake was bypassed i could start rebooting immediately or sometimes it can several months for the "checks and balances" to catch up.

They told me to hook the parking brake up the way it should be and it should work fine.

So I'm gonna give that a try.

I'll let you guys know if it fixes the problem.

I won't get around to it till later this afternoon but if someone tries this please post so i can know if i need to spend the time taking my dash apart

Mine just goes to the splash screen, holds for a few seconds then reboots. Back to the splash screen then reboots again.

I tried the test mode files, nothing.

Tried the 2.0 update, nothing.

Tried the test mode files on a SD card and USB flash drive, still same thing.

Finally called Pioneer and they told me to send it to them as it's a software issue. It was working fine before, didn't do any hacks, then gps stopped working (couldn't find me nor move when the car was moving), then intermittent reboots, then all of sudden constant reboots.

I'm sending my unit in, they said turn around time is 7-10 days once received. I can live without it for the time being, as long as I get it back in working condition.

I called Pioneer this morning and they told me that if the parking brake was bypassed i could start rebooting immediately or sometimes it can several months for the "checks and balances" to catch up.

They told me to hook the parking brake up the way it should be and it should work fine.

So I'm gonna give that a try.

I'll let you guys know if it fixes the problem.

I won't get around to it till later this afternoon but if someone tries this please post so i can know if i need to spend the time taking my dash apart

Im not too sure about the parking brake wire. I have read alot of post with different problems and pioneer always tells them it is a parking brake wire and to reconnect it the right way, and all of the posts i have read that did not fix it. I am not saying it will not fix it, but from what i have read it seems like the parking brake wire is there excust to either not do warranty work or they are lost as to what does fix the prob so the just tell people that you have your parking brake wire hooked up wrong. There are people an here that have the parking brake wire bybpass done since it was first descovered and never had a prob. I beleive the "checks and balances" would have cought up with alot of people by this point in time.

Either way good luck and i hope you get it fixed soon.

IMO, the problem being the hardwire bypass is BS. Why would it take 6 months for this unit to catch up and realize it is bypassed? Computers are capable of computing things very fast, and it would find a problem almost instantly if that was the problem. Let alone, why else would it be called a by-pass?

Anyway, update on mine. I got mine fixed, doctored up, and back to normal. Plus a few mods, and still running stable. Still no idea why mine pooped out on me, but basically to get it fixed what you need to do is first try to update to firmware 2.0, even if you already have that. This will make it stable and stay on, but not load up. Now, boot into testmode, ensuring that you have all the back -up files also on that same SD card. Open myflashdisk, go to options and uncheck all 3 boxes to ensure that all files are shown. Edit>select all>file>delete. Go back to your sd card, copy all the system files, paste them back in myflashdisk.

Simple fix, aye? I did it once but it didn't work. I got the system startup screen, but it kept rebooting. Reason why is that I COPIED THE WRONG VERSION TO MYFLASHDISK. I have the F90BT, and I copied the F900BT files, and that did not work. Minifreezer's upload is the F90bt, and that is what I used/needed. Ever since I copied those, it's working just fine. Even threw on ill.die.trying's mods, and it works great. set my settings back up, copied my contacts back [even though my bluetooth pairing was still in the AVIC, which I thought was strange]. and it's working like the day I got it.

IMO, the problem being the hardwire bypass is BS. Why would it take 6 months for this unit to catch up and realize it is bypassed? Computers are capable of computing things very fast, and it would find a problem almost instantly if that was the problem. Let alone, why else would it be called a by-pass?

 

Anyway, update on mine. I got mine fixed, doctored up, and back to normal. Plus a few mods, and still running stable. Still no idea why mine pooped out on me, but basically to get it fixed what you need to do is first try to update to firmware 2.0, even if you already have that. This will make it stable and stay on, but not load up. Now, boot into testmode, ensuring that you have all the back -up files also on that same SD card. Open myflashdisk, go to options and uncheck all 3 boxes to ensure that all files are shown. Edit>select all>file>delete. Go back to your sd card, copy all the system files, paste them back in myflashdisk.

 

Simple fix, aye? I did it once but it didn't work. I got the system startup screen, but it kept rebooting. Reason why is that I COPIED THE WRONG VERSION TO MYFLASHDISK. I have the F90BT, and I copied the F900BT files, and that did not work. Minifreezer's upload is the F90bt, and that is what I used/needed. Ever since I copied those, it's working just fine. Even threw on ill.die.trying's mods, and it works great. set my settings back up, copied my contacts back [even though my bluetooth pairing was still in the AVIC, which I thought was strange]. and it's working like the day I got it.

Glad i could help ya.

I called Pioneer this morning and they told me that if the parking brake was bypassed i could start rebooting immediately or sometimes it can several months for the "checks and balances" to catch up.

Ha . . ha . . . Another joke from the customer service (not just Pioneer's)

It is very sad that these people who are doing "technical support" to the small computer (AVIC), are talking such "smart" statements . . . and . . . no . . no more comments . . !

I do not mean to be rude and please correct me if i am wrong, but i get the feeling that things are going off-topic here. This topic is about the F900BT that worked fine for a long time and then all of a sudden (without any changes made to it) started rebooting. I see lots of things about wrongly connected handbrakes coming along, but that is not a problem that occurs all of a sudden right? That is an installation/setup issue. I would like to suggest to keep the topic clean so that the people having this "out of the blue" problem (of which i am one, yes indeed) can get help with their problems.

I do not mean to be rude and please correct me if i am wrong, but i get the feeling that things are going off-topic here. This topic is about the F900BT that worked fine for a long time and then all of a sudden (without any changes made to it) started rebooting. I see lots of things about wrongly connected handbrakes coming along, but that is not a problem that occurs all of a sudden right? That is an installation/setup issue. I would like to suggest to keep the topic clean so that the people having this "out of the blue" problem (of which i am one, yes indeed) can get help with their problems.

The parking brake we are refuring to is on topic. We were just stating that if the person has to call pioneer about rebooting problem that pioneer's generic answer fo all of the problems the f series is having, especcialy the rebooting issue, is that the parking brake wire being grounded and not connected to the parking brake lead.

You are right it is not something that just all of the sudden happens. Pioneer claims that it can take months for the "checks and balances" in the unit to catch up and realize that the parking brake wire is not connected right. We were just telling him for when he does call Pioneerhe would be forewarned.

I believe the individual that is haveing the rebooting issue probably has a corrupted file. Just my opinion though.

Yeah I tried the parking brake.

It didn't help.

No surprise there.

Added Wiki writeup on this issue. Please let me know or edit this if my information is incorrect!

http://avic411.com/wiki/index.php/Constant_Reboot_Loop

Good job Chorca! Thanks

Added Wiki writeup on this issue. Please let me know or edit this if my information is incorrect!

 

http://avic411.com/wiki/index.php/Constant_Reboot_Loop

Good job! The solution of deleting the gpspara files does not work for everyone however, which is important to note. Including me... I had to completely replace all the system files as provided by gsxr 1k. (Big thanks to him!)

1. Put the SD Card with the testmode folders in the root directory of the SD Card.

2. Turn the ignition on

3. In testmode go to Start->Programs->Windows Explorer

4. Click on "My Flash Disk" and you will see a bunch of folders and files

5. Click on Edit menu and select all (or at least the files you are planning to delete - gpspara0.bin, gpspara1.bin, gpspara2.bin and gpspara3.bin)

6. Go up one level to see the SD Card that you used to boot into test mode

7. Double click, Edit menu and paste

8. Go back to the "My Flash Disk" root directory and delete the above mentioned files

9. Turn off the ignition and take the SD Card out

10. Turn your ignition on and it should work just fine.

 

Let me know if it helps.

THIS METHOD WORKS!!CONFIRM!!

vegaslaptop,

i follow the steps describe above, and sure enough it worked like a charm. i drove 20 minutes on freeway which is close to my house, and sure enough i could watch videos, music and gps, without the intruption of rebooting of every 2 minutes which had been giving me pain in the ass for about a month. i have tried everything, i even bought the new rca and audio harness to ensure that i didn't had problems in hardware. i cannot imagine the fix was deleting couple of files, i spend about 150$ in labor and wires train to fix this problem....pity i haven't seen this post before. anyways to top it off, i would like to thank "vegaslaptop" for the fix and i want to request your paypal email so i can donate you a small token of appreciation!!! thanx

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy!!!!

hey guys im having the same problems most of yall are but i think mines a little different. at first my unit started rebooting every 2 minutes or so, but now it doesnt even reboot. when i start the car it will show the splash screen for about 35 seconds and then just completely go black. i thought it might be a power problem but when i do the hard restart the same thing happens, comes on then shuts off, so it has to have power. i tried to boot into testmode and follow vegas' directions but it shuts off right before the "copying files" bar finishes loading. im thinking i should just send it back to pioneer and get a new one but this is the second time this year and its becoming a pain in the a**.

anyone have any ideas?

o4gmc,

I am sorry to hear that you are having so much trouble. Unfortunately, if you can not even get in testmode (or not long enough to delete the files) all you can do is send it to Pioneer. Before this started happening did you install the latest update (2) from Pioneer? Did you have any mods or hacks installed?

vegaslaptop

PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE SUBMITTING YOUR MESSAGE

For future reference, anyone that has a problem please provide a brief answer to the following list so that we can help you better and avoid multiple messages until we get an idea what the problem could be.

First please list the model of you Avic unit (F90BT, F900BT, F700BT, etc.)

1) Past issues (reboots, freezing)

2) Have you (or professional) upgraded your Avic to the latest update

3) Did the issue start before or after the update, if applicable?

4) Did the issue start after a hack, a mod or a bypass?

5) How long have you had the hacks, mods or bypass?

6) How long has the unit worked without a problem?

With these questions, I am trying to gather information to a pattern of some sort that may have caused the issue that you are experiencing. If you have noticed a pattern, please describe it.

If somebody would like to add a question that would be helpful in troubleshooting, please pm.

vegaslaptop

vegas sorry i wasnt more specific, ive had my 90bt since december with the version 2.0 already installed, i dont have any mods besides the hardware bypass and ive never had any problems with it before. the problems started about 3 weeks ago with the rebooting then led to the problem i mentioned below. thinking about it more now, the problems started a few days after i uploaded a new splash screen (for the first time). in fact the 90bt i had previously (also with the updated 2.0 firmware) started acting up right after i uploaded a new splash screen. not sure if that means anything just something i noticed.

thanks in advance for any suggestions

I had a F900BT installed in my 2007 Jetta in late september 2008.

About 2 weeks ago the endless reboot cycle started.

The dealer told me that I would have to let them send it to Pioneer for repair.

Instead I tried deleting the 4 files detailed earlier in this thread with immediate success. 5 days later, still no problem.

Many thanks to vegaslaptop for that timely post!

04gmc,

Your testmode issue has been experienced by other users. Here's one of the links I found

http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=23852&p=163944&hilit=testmode#p163944

If this link does not help, please try to search for "testmode" and you will see different solutions to get into testmode.

Hope this helps!

I'm having the same issue, I also deleted the files mentioned, and it worked that night. I played around resetting the EQ, and the next morning it was back to rebooting. Played around with the EQ some more before leaving work, it didn't reboot the whole time until I got a little way down the road, and started it all over again. Repeated boots. Only mods I have installed is the all-in-one thing, and a custom splash screen. Any ideas? I'm going to put the stock "Flash disk" back on here soon, and see if that helps. Haven't even had this thing for a month. If it helps, it started when trying to GPS my way back home, while listening to music.

I forgot to mention, each time it didn't reboot, I didn't move out of park.

krnfrk6663,

After you go back to stock please report, if it resolves your problem. It could be a mod that's affecting the OS on the unit.

When I put my stock back on there, it just stuck at Startup in progress, and the would reboot after some time.

I'm having the same issue, I also deleted the files mentioned, and it worked that night. I played around resetting the EQ, and the next morning it was back to rebooting. Played around with the EQ some more before leaving work, it didn't reboot the whole time until I got a little way down the road, and started it all over again. Repeated boots. Only mods I have installed is the all-in-one thing, and a custom splash screen. Any ideas? I'm going to put the stock "Flash disk" back on here soon, and see if that helps. Haven't even had this thing for a month. If it helps, it started when trying to GPS my way back home, while listening to music.

 

I forgot to mention, each time it didn't reboot, I didn't move out of park.

You can try getting into testmode and deleting the files in the user data folder. that has helped people and i think that might help you. After you deleted the gpspara files it worked fine untill you went and set your EQ. All of your personal settings fo audio video and contact are saved in the userdata folder, and if any of those files are corrunpt you will get reboot issues. As far as going back to stack oand now it will not boot up sounds like your stock data.zip is looking or a file that CMH AIO has eith replaced or deleted. You can try to install a backup of the whole unit (hopefully you backed it up before hacking). If you need a stock back up you can try this link http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=21618&p=160394&hilit=f90bt+backup#p158522

Good luck and hope you get it fixed

Well, I would mess around with it, but the guy that installed it pulled it out of the dash and I don't feel compfortable to pull the dash off and put it back. :-\ They're saying I have to send it in. I don't want to, but it's free. Through BB. Maybe I should since it's already out.