Thanks a lot for the quick reply. (and yes, I have backed up all my files!! )

I will give this a try when is stops pouring outside so that I can actually get to my car.

Cheers

HR

Well, HR, the thread Moogle pointed out is just for how to get into the Recovery Menu and how to flash a new CE. And thats all you have to do there. Copy the CE image from the update to a SD card, boot into Recovery by pressing the button combos and then flash the CE Image. (DONT use the "format" option).

Then boot into testmode and basically overwrite the APL folder with the one in the update. Moogle just renamed it but you can just as well back it up to SD and then overwrite it.

 

As it has been stated numerous times it is always a good idea to back up all files on the unit to a SD card bofore attempting anything like this. So you can always go back to a working installation.

 

-C

Now we just need the iGo and we pretty much have 3.0. I'm gonna see if someone on a certain forum where i download maps can hack this ezrider for the generic license

Have you any news yet?

Not yet. I offered up some money for it so hopefully someone will attempt it for me

edit: useless post, will only confuse others

Ok, please ignore the above post as I go into testmode and was able to switch the APL file with the new APL file.

The button responses seem much faster but I still don't have what I really wanted which was the button scrolling to pre-sets and not up/by one (on XM) or 0.1 in radio.

Should I try to load it again? Any other thoughts as to what I may have done wrong?

Thanks

HR

when it's working you probably didn't do anything wrong, it's just not supported...

Success!!!!!

Well, so far!

 

1) I updated the WinCE version via the instructions here : viewtopic.php?f=33&t=25424&p=172862&hilit=service+menu#p172862 EXCEPT I choose the update WITHOUT formatting option.

2) Using the new testmode 2.3, moved the old APL to APL.bak, and copied over the 3.0 version

3) Crossed fingers, reset

4) Booted! So far I haven't found any problems - some of the menu items are like in the 3.0 screenshot tour viewtopic.php?t=25031 , basically the non-NAV related items (bluetooth call screen, for example)

5) Its still runing iGo 8.0, since I didnt replace the APL 2 folder. Gonna try replacing that next.

 

Menus *seem* like they're faster, boot time seems a little bit quicker too.

Which wince version did you use, that of the 2.007 update or from the 3.0 update?

Is it neccesary to go into service menu? Can i not just put thewince image in there while in (old)testmode2.2 and then restart?

when it's working you probably didn't do anything wrong, it's just not supported...

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I'm pretty sure I did do it right as I tried to place a call on BT on the caller info was in the bottom right like for the X-series and not across the bottom (in the middle of the screen) like the F-series.

So it might be the steering wheel interface rather than anything to do with the avic? That kind of sucks. Thanks for the input.

HR

Success!!!!!

Well, so far!

 

1) I updated the WinCE version via the instructions here : viewtopic.php?f=33&t=25424&p=172862&hilit=service+menu#p172862 EXCEPT I choose the update WITHOUT formatting option.

2) Using the new testmode 2.3, moved the old APL to APL.bak, and copied over the 3.0 version

3) Crossed fingers, reset

4) Booted! So far I haven't found any problems - some of the menu items are like in the 3.0 screenshot tour viewtopic.php?t=25031 , basically the non-NAV related items (bluetooth call screen, for example)

5) Its still runing iGo 8.0, since I didnt replace the APL 2 folder. Gonna try replacing that next.

 

Menus *seem* like they're faster, boot time seems a little bit quicker too.

 

Which wince version did you use, that of the 2.007 update or from the 3.0 update?

Is it neccesary to go into service menu? Can i not just put thewince image in there while in (old)testmode2.2 and then restart?

I used the wince for the 3.0, but i'm not sure about having to go into service mode, but it is really easy to do so i would just take that route.

Ok, when i understand correct, the 3.0 wince is working with testmode 2.3?

Ok, when i understand correct, the 3.0 wince is working with testmode 2.3?

Yes it is.

I'll give it a try tomorrow (sunday)

I guess I'm the first for this not to work. My F700 previously had 2.006 and after just the WinCE update from 3.01 it would freeze and reboot before the "please wait system starting up" bubble on the main menu would go away. I'm guessing something to do with iGo or RealSpeak was freezing. Reverting back to the old WinCE version fixed the freezing.

Sidenote: I found that the key response was much faster with just the WinCE update applied when I had to type in my security code after the reset. It seems Pioneers apps aren't responsible for the slow key response instead it was something in the OS itself.

when it's working you probably didn't do anything wrong, it's just not supported...

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I'm pretty sure I did do it right as I tried to place a call on BT on the caller info was in the bottom right like for the X-series and not across the bottom (in the middle of the screen) like the F-series.

 

So it might be the steering wheel interface rather than anything to do with the avic? That kind of sucks. Thanks for the input.

 

HR

Well it looks like it, Im afraid. Becouse it works fine with my steering wheel control/CAN Bus adaptor.

OK, got the hybrid (X-F)system now to. Screenresponse is indeed much quickker. But startup is slow as before! I still believe this is due to the igo, so i really like to get my hands on the new one!

Updating the ce-image was a bit confusing. Because there is no screen that asks you to enter a code, it says hit the rest button again, on this screen you put in the buttonsequence, then the servicemenu pops up.

OK, got the hybrid (X-F)system now to. Screenresponse is indeed much quickker. But startup is slow as before! I still believe this is due to the igo, so i really like to get my hands on the new one!

 

Updating the ce-image was a bit confusing. Because there is no screen that asks you to enter a code, it says hit the rest button again, on this screen you put in the buttonsequence, then the servicemenu pops up.

Umm.. who says the original 3.0 update is booting up noticably faster? My guess is that this hack will boot just as fast. I dont think IGO is contributing all that much to boot time.

OK, got the hybrid (X-F)system now to. Screenresponse is indeed much quickker. But startup is slow as before! I still believe this is due to the igo, so i really like to get my hands on the new one!

 

Updating the ce-image was a bit confusing. Because there is no screen that asks you to enter a code, it says hit the rest button again, on this screen you put in the buttonsequence, then the servicemenu pops up.

 

Umm.. who says the original 3.0 update is booting up noticably faster? My guess is that this hack will boot just as fast. I dont think IGO is contributing all that much to boot time.

Let's put it this way, my experience is, igo8.3 boots faster then 8.0 on another unit i had.

Moreover i like the roadsign navigation, this is very helpful when situations get complicated.

An update on my previous issue:

I tried using an older version of igo from the 2.0 update and still a no go. Launching from test mode the pioneer logo comes up for a second then it crashes. I also tried the newer igo 8.3 from the 3.0 update. It seems the reason it crashes is the update does not include an updated english language file (only a french canadian) I'm betting if you can grab an engish language file for igo 8.3 then put it in the LANG folder it may work.

I left my maps and existing license file in the igo folder but replaced everything else. It started booting the program in testmode but would not get past a missing language error.

I'm betting if you can grab an engish language file for igo 8.3 then put it in the LANG folder it may work.

I uploaded Lang_English_uk and Lang_English_aus for you, sorry but I don't have an US version:

http://rapidshare.com/files/255049136/Lang_English.zip

Paul

Guys, go over here for the 3.0 button sounds. I just loaded them up and they are tons better than the old sounds. Much less annoying.

I'm betting if you can grab an engish language file for igo 8.3 then put it in the LANG folder it may work.

 

I uploaded Lang_English_uk and Lang_English_aus for you, sorry but I don't have an US version:

 

http://rapidshare.com/files/255049136/Lang_English.zip

 

Paul

Well now I can't get it past the init app portion of startup... I can't figure out what I changed that made it stop working completely. Didn't even get a chance to try the language file.

Well now I can't get it past the init app portion of startup... I can't figure out what I changed that made it stop working completely. Didn't even get a chance to try the language file.

Ah, I hate that, not changing anything but the results

Good luck!

I'm betting if you can grab an engish language file for igo 8.3 then put it in the LANG folder it may work.

 

I uploaded Lang_English_uk and Lang_English_aus for you, sorry but I don't have an US version:

 

http://rapidshare.com/files/255049136/Lang_English.zip

 

Paul

 

 

Well now I can't get it past the init app portion of startup... I can't figure out what I changed that made it stop working completely. Didn't even get a chance to try the language file.

did you update the wince, mine hanged when i did that part wrong....

I am having the same problem.

I updated the wince img from the 3.0 upgrade for the x series from service mode, then copy the apl folder from the same x series update file. Reset the system and bootup won't pass the "System Startup" bubble.

Revert to 2.0 wince img and apl folder solve the problem.

I did it twice, and I have a Canada F700BT with stock 2.0 firmware.

Any help?

I am having the same problem.

 

I updated the wince img from the 3.0 upgrade for the x series from service mode, then copy the apl folder from the same x series update file. Reset the system and bootup won't pass the "System Startup" bubble.

 

Revert to 2.0 wince img and apl folder solve the problem.

 

I did it twice, and I have a Canada F700BT with stock 2.0 firmware.

 

Any help?

I'm thinking the WinCE included with this update is somehow incompatible with the f700... Has anyone actually got this working on anything but a F900?? I gave up on trying to get mine to work and just reverted back to 2.006

I gotta say though the improved key response, fixing the call window, and new maps will be more than worth $60. This coming from someone that bought this thing for full price during the avic411 special at Al-Eds. Now if Pioneer could just make an HD radio tuner that doesn't fail after 3 weeks of use.