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AVIC-X Series 3.0 Firmware Update

By Retell · Jul 08, 2009in Hacks/Mods💬 235 posts👁️ 57,802 views
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Posted Jul 13, 2009 · 20:07 UTC#76

Thanks, Just upgraded my F90BT and works like a charm.

 

There is a noticable improvement navigating through the system.

 

All the button presses (both hardware and onscreen) are responding much faster.

 

Thanks M Moogle and others that posted the details on how to upgrade.

Posted Jul 13, 2009 · 23:06 UTC#77

Are there any improvements with the media player playback in firmware 3.0? The old firmware 2.0 doesn't allow fast forward/rewind or stretch to full screen while playing divx movies.

Posted Jul 13, 2009 · 23:58 UTC#78

Hmmm, just tried the X900's WinCE.bin with my 2.006 F90BT UC and got a permanent "System startup, please wait" message overlaid on the screen, then an eventual reset. Didn't work again until I re-flashed the 2.006 WinCE.bin back.

 

Have any other UC F90BTs successfully applied this hack?

Posted Jul 13, 2009 · 23:59 UTC#79

wanted to know if you guys got the extra MSN options after the update? if someone could let me know that would be great... thanks

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 00:05 UTC#80

MSN Direct is part of iGo, so we won't have that until we either get a hacked ezrider, or a full copy of the APL2 folder including the licese and maps.

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 00:51 UTC#81

FourG I have successfully applied this hack to my f90bt. I reformatted my sd card to fat32 and put both the winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks and it worked perfectly. Make sure your choosing to update wince from sd(not formatted). I have 2.0 software though not 2.006. Hope this helps

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 01:40 UTC#82

Anyone have an issue with their POI's being all screwed up after the CE update/APL folder swap?

 

When I hit POI's near GPS location then select a category it displays POI's in Washington State!

 

It is fine if I search for one by name

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 13:09 UTC#83

thanks for the info yetta. i think i am going to give this part of the update a try. i deleted the image.res in the new apl folder this should let me keep my modded colors ...right?

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 15:13 UTC#84
FourG I have successfully applied this hack to my f90bt. I reformatted my sd card to fat32 and put both the winceimg.bin and winceimg.cks and it worked perfectly. Make sure your choosing to update wince from sd(not formatted). I have 2.0 software though not 2.006. Hope this helps

 

I am having the exact same problem as "FourG". I have an F90bt and I followed the directions word by word and I still get that error message. However, I think the problem my reside on the 2.006 upgrade. I installed it last week. I am going to revert back to 2.0 and then try the 3.0 upgrade upagain. I will post my results after lunch.

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 15:46 UTC#85

i had 2.006 installed and was able to update without a problem.

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 16:07 UTC#86

It is because you are not using the hacked ezrider

 

I will try to simplify this

 

1) I updated the WinCE version via the instructions here viewtopic.php?f=33&t=25424&p=172862&hilit=service+menu#p172862 EXCEPT I choose the update WITHOUT formatting option.

2) Using the new testmode 2.3, moved the old APL to APL.bak, and copied over the 3.0 version

3) Crossed fingers, reset

4) Booted! So far I haven't found any problems - some of the menu items are like in the 3.0 screenshot tour viewtopic.php?t=25031 , basically the non-NAV related items (bluetooth call screen, for example)

5) Its still runing iGo 8.0, since I didnt replace the APL 2 folder. Gonna try replacing that next.

 

1: Update WinCE version but not quite like http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... nu#p172862 tells you. You use the WinCE update from the 3.0 X Series update from the Pioneer website not the one from that thread. Update without format option and after you update you skip everything after on that thread because it tells you how to do a full recovery not just a update.

 

on a side note to that thread to enter service mode you hold down Menu,Map,Eject then tap reset and it seems to go right into service mode (blue screen that says push reset) Instead of pushing reset you then put in the code from that thread.

 

2: Using the new testmode 2.3, moved the old APL to APL.bak, and copied over the 3.0 version

 

3: Inside the APL 2 folder replace the ezrider file with the hacked ezrider from this thread http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25289 otherwise you may get stuck at "system loading" and maps will not work. Everything else in the APL2 folder stays the same until the new iGo is hacked.

 

 

I hope this helps. I am quite happy so far to have menus that respond when i push them now. I just bought my unit last week from Best Buy and was quite upset i would have to pay 60-100$+ just to update my brand new system. I would love to get new maps too but i am pretty happy with the results so far. Next i think i am going to see if i can get rid of those annoying Caution screens after this update.

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 19:23 UTC#87

Can somebody that did this update check their POI category lists when hitting Around current GPS position as I described above... I want to know if I am the only one ;)

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 19:30 UTC#88

"adamdenterkin" thanks so much. Yes, it's working now. Step 3 was the missing link (ezrider file).

 

One question, after the upgrade, shouldn't I be able to see the firmware upgrade 3.0 version on the "service information" tab. When I check it, I still see version 2.006000.

 

Thanks,

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 19:47 UTC#89

NO because you didn't update the version info(this is in the root of your flasdrive).

 

better leave it this way, so you can still do an official update if you want....

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 19:56 UTC#90
Can somebody that did this update check their POI category lists when hitting Around current GPS position as I described above... I want to know if I am the only one ;)

 

I checked mine with several POI types and it worked correctly every time. Saved Criteria POIs worked as well.

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 20:22 UTC#91

as anyone successful reapplied mods like CMH & GTIMATT with the new 3.0 firmware?

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 20:51 UTC#92

i would love to find this out also

Posted Jul 14, 2009 · 22:00 UTC#93

I updated Superman's RED Image.res for 3.0 (really I just took the new image.res and copied the contents of superman's into it, overwriting the files that already existed). I made a couple other changes of my own but nothing related to 3.0. The only thing i've noticed that is different is the background of the in-call popup since its obviously moved and a different size.

 

GTI Matt and CMH Nav mods aren't affected since we haven't updated iGO yet. Once we update iGo, those mods will need to be pretty much completely redone since iGo 8.0 and 8.3 use different data.zip formats.

Posted Jul 15, 2009 · 00:03 UTC#94
I updated Superman's RED Image.res for 3.0 (really I just took the new image.res and copied the contents of superman's into it, overwriting the files that already existed). I made a couple other changes of my own but nothing related to 3.0. The only thing i've noticed that is different is the background of the in-call popup since its obviously moved and a different size.

 

GTI Matt and CMH Nav mods aren't affected since we haven't updated iGO yet. Once we update iGo, those mods will need to be pretty much completely redone since iGo 8.0 and 8.3 use different data.zip formats.

 

confirmed, thank you.

Posted Jul 15, 2009 · 00:05 UTC#95
It is because you are not using the hacked ezrider

 

I will try to simplify this

 

1) I updated the WinCE version via the instructions here viewtopic.php?f=33&t=25424&p=172862&hilit=service+menu#p172862 EXCEPT I choose the update WITHOUT formatting option.

2) Using the new testmode 2.3, moved the old APL to APL.bak, and copied over the 3.0 version

3) Crossed fingers, reset

4) Booted! So far I haven't found any problems - some of the menu items are like in the 3.0 screenshot tour viewtopic.php?t=25031 , basically the non-NAV related items (bluetooth call screen, for example)

5) Its still runing iGo 8.0, since I didnt replace the APL 2 folder. Gonna try replacing that next.

 

1: Update WinCE version but not quite ......

 

Adam,

 

Thanks for a very concise guide on how to proceed with this update.....mine went flawless. Much appreciated.

 

WR/ V2A2

Posted Jul 15, 2009 · 02:02 UTC#96

Just updated wince, apl folder as instructed, along with the new sound files. You really do notice the snappiness of the button presses now. Also the new sounds are a whole lot less annoying. That static sound you hear after the sound was obviously issues with the wav files in the older version.

 

Very cool, thanks guys. Whoever cracked the whole service menu key toggle, I have a feeling people at pioneer will be very displeased. Doesn't that mean someone can repair them in half the time for half the price?

 

Thanks again. Now if we can just get igo 8.3 But then again, the update is out in a few weeks anyway so, why be in such a rush right?

Posted Jul 15, 2009 · 02:33 UTC#97

Yep It worked!!

 

Just put the hacked ezrider and everything worked.

 

Thanks

Posted Jul 15, 2009 · 02:47 UTC#98

I just installed the GTIMatt mod to this and holy crap this is a new unit now. I love it! Wow the buttons really are so much zippier its just amazing what a few hundred milliseconds make, it sad. A perfect way to see the true speed increase, is to scroll through poi's or the category list. It scrolls through almost like a normal list instead of the whole push down, pause, push down, pause. So its not an exageration, those icons really are moving through faster. But yes, this was evident immediately after the wince update, which worked just fine without the new apl folder.

 

One thing about the sound files, they only seem to apply to physical map/menu buttons and the steering wheel control, nothing related to navigation has the new sounds. Guess this means those are elseware? But hey that was easilly fixed by turning key beeps off. The new sounds are only ran then during the key beeps everywhere besides navigation buttons.

 

Anyway, im so happy with this unit now, im wondering if I will even apply the 3.0 update when it comes, I don't want to lose this perfection and have to resort to going through several menus to mute voice or cancel a route, but hey at least you will be able to read the distance/time to destination information right? NO more white text on a light color back round?

 

Well im all set now, wow what an amazing thing dedicating an hour of time will do.

 

Thanks again all, wish I had the time to actually contribute, but you gotta make that money right.

Posted Jul 15, 2009 · 03:49 UTC#99
I just installed the GTIMatt mod to this and holy crap this is a new unit now. I love it! Wow the buttons really are so much zippier its just amazing what a few hundred milliseconds make, it sad. A perfect way to see the true speed increase, is to scroll through poi's or the category list. It scrolls through almost like a normal list instead of the whole push down, pause, push down, pause. So its not an exageration, those icons really are moving through faster. But yes, this was evident immediately after the wince update, which worked just fine without the new apl folder.

 

One thing about the sound files, they only seem to apply to physical map/menu buttons and the steering wheel control, nothing related to navigation has the new sounds. Guess this means those are elseware? But hey that was easilly fixed by turning key beeps off. The new sounds are only ran then during the key beeps everywhere besides navigation buttons.

 

Anyway, im so happy with this unit now, im wondering if I will even apply the 3.0 update when it comes, I don't want to lose this perfection and have to resort to going through several menus to mute voice or cancel a route, but hey at least you will be able to read the distance/time to destination information right? NO more white text on a light color back round?

 

Well im all set now, wow what an amazing thing dedicating an hour of time will do.

 

Thanks again all, wish I had the time to actually contribute, but you gotta make that money right.

 

To get the sounds to match in the navigation screens you have to go in the data.zip and replace the files in the sounds folder with the ones from the data zip in the 3.0 update. Then everything matches.

Posted Jul 15, 2009 · 07:06 UTC#100

Thank you OP for these update instructions. The menus now are much quicker. Doesnt seem like 3.0 is much of a change besides the speed of the menus.

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