Just got the 920 and after reading about the ability to upgrade the software I'm wondering what there will be to gain from updating to the 930 firmware? Not really seeing any new features... What am I missing? If anything it looks like it does less.. Yes I know I won't lose the VR by updating but please tell me a reason why I should update when it becomes available.
Just got the 920 and after reading about the ability to upgrade the software I'm wondering what there will be to gain from updating to the 930 firmware? Not really seeing any new features... What am I missing? If anything it looks like it does less.. Yes I know I won't lose the VR by updating but please tell me a reason why I should update when it becomes available.
Wow nobody knows?
No plenty of people know they just got the info from reading the threads that are available.
Yeah i read plenty of threads. Most of them contain you being a D-Bag. That and not a lot of info about the 930 besides the physical change to the buttons and the lack of VR.
Haha, so true.
Yeah i read plenty of threads. Most of them contain you being a D-Bag. That and not a lot of info about the 930 besides the physical change to the buttons and the lack of VR.
VBlue42 is alright. He's on here every day and probably gets tired of the exact same questions being asked over and over again, in new threads.
Differences with the x930BT:
As it's not out yet, the only hard evidence anyone has is from Pioneers product page and the CES show where it was shown. Any and all information about the unit is coming from one of those two sources, and has already been repeated here - several times 
. I mean, look at the first page of this forum alone:
x920bt -> x930bt software update
Transferring Voice Commands to X930BT?
AVIC-X920BT now + upgrade or wait for AVIC-X930BT?
i think i got an x930bt where can i get info on it
Pioneer has updated its NAV Unit Page - Z130BT & X930BT
All asking variations on the same questions that currently have the same answers, or asking questions that no one could possibly have answers to yet since the unit isn't available.
Going solely by information provided by Pioneer (i.e. not speculation or friend of a friend rumors) the following are the known differences:
It has a volume button.
It has a partially detachable face - we're not really sure exactly what that means.
No VR support.
Pioneer has announced there will be a software update that brings the software-level features (like App mode, new maps, etc) of the x930bt to the x920bt. They have also confirmed that said update will not disable VR support on x920bt units. No other information on this update has been announced, however, if we go by the way last year's worked, it will come out a month or two after the x930bt is commercially available, and cost $150+ or so. It will include the OS update and 2011 maps.
Nothing else other than what you read on Pioneers site is known. The base hardware appears the same in terms of pre-out voltage, processor, flash memory size, etc.
This is not an official Pioneer forum, it is an enthusiast forum. When actual, hard facts are released, rest assured someone will post them here within minutes. If they are not, it's because no one knows yet.
Once again lxian very well put. I finally decided a couple of months ago I was just going to ignore redundant question that already have been answered and usually by myself. It gets incredibly frustrating to see that same questions almost on a daily basis when the answers are there and people just don't want to look before posting. Unfortunately I allowed my attitude to get out of control with my responses and had to just stop responding for a while. Thanks for your input and explaining it to our newer members.
the detachable face part means that you can remove the function buttons as a security and the deck will not function nor turn on
VBlue42 is alright. He's on here every day and probably gets tired of the exact same questions being asked over and over again, in new threads.
Differences with the x930BT:
As it's not out yet, the only hard evidence anyone has is from Pioneers product page and the CES show where it was shown. Any and all information about the unit is coming from one of those two sources, and has already been repeated here - several times
x920bt -> x930bt software update
Transferring Voice Commands to X930BT?
AVIC-X920BT now + upgrade or wait for AVIC-X930BT?
i think i got an x930bt where can i get info on it
Pioneer has updated its NAV Unit Page - Z130BT & X930BT
All asking variations on the same questions that currently have the same answers, or asking questions that no one could possibly have answers to yet since the unit isn't available.
Going solely by information provided by Pioneer (i.e. not speculation or friend of a friend rumors) the following are the known differences:
It has a volume button.
It has a partially detachable face - we're not really sure exactly what that means.
No VR support.
Pioneer has announced there will be a software update that brings the software-level features (like App mode, new maps, etc) of the x930bt to the x920bt. They have also confirmed that said update will not disable VR support on x920bt units. No other information on this update has been announced, however, if we go by the way last year's worked, it will come out a month or two after the x930bt is commercially available, and cost $150+ or so. It will include the OS update and 2011 maps.
Nothing else other than what you read on Pioneers site is known. The base hardware appears the same in terms of pre-out voltage, processor, flash memory size, etc.
This is not an official Pioneer forum, it is an enthusiast forum. When actual, hard facts are released, rest assured someone will post them here within minutes. If they are not, it's because no one knows yet.
As you can see from my previous post I did read the other threads. I guess I thought there was more info out there than what was already on the forum. someone could have easily said that there wasn't any more info as of now rather than being a jerk.
As you can see from my previous post I did read the other threads. I guess I thought there was more info out there than what was already on the forum. someone could have easily said that there wasn't any more info as of now rather than being a jerk.
Btw if you really are on here everyday I hope you get paid for it. If not you should find a board that's not dead.
Well I don't get paid but how is this board dead?
Btw if you really are on here everyday I hope you get paid for it. If not you should find a board that's not dead.
You know, I think there's a point in there somewhere. Something does seem wrong here. Where are all the posts about people counting down the release of the new units? There's almost no hype for them. It seems that either the market for this type of product is drying up, or Pioneer has just done a horrible, horrible job with previous units that people have been scared off. I know I'll never buy another one based on my experiences with the bluetooth phone connectivity and Pioneer's attitude about it. Add the lack of hackability and all the wow just seems to be gone.
That is exactly the issue. The attitude from their support is the worst I have ever seen and I hope they do pay the price for it. I will never but another Pio mostly because of this. And the fact that I am fixing to go full iPad in my dash which will blow away any Pio unit.
VBlue42 is alright. He's on here every day and probably gets tired of the exact same questions being asked over and over again, in new threads.
Differences with the x930BT:
As it's not out yet, the only hard evidence anyone has is from Pioneers product page and the CES show where it was shown. Any and all information about the unit is coming from one of those two sources, and has already been repeated here - several times
x920bt -> x930bt software update
Transferring Voice Commands to X930BT?
AVIC-X920BT now + upgrade or wait for AVIC-X930BT?
i think i got an x930bt where can i get info on it
Pioneer has updated its NAV Unit Page - Z130BT & X930BT
All asking variations on the same questions that currently have the same answers, or asking questions that no one could possibly have answers to yet since the unit isn't available.
Going solely by information provided by Pioneer (i.e. not speculation or friend of a friend rumors) the following are the known differences:
It has a volume button.
It has a partially detachable face - we're not really sure exactly what that means.
No VR support.
Pioneer has announced there will be a software update that brings the software-level features (like App mode, new maps, etc) of the x930bt to the x920bt. They have also confirmed that said update will not disable VR support on x920bt units. No other information on this update has been announced, however, if we go by the way last year's worked, it will come out a month or two after the x930bt is commercially available, and cost $150+ or so. It will include the OS update and 2011 maps.
Nothing else other than what you read on Pioneers site is known. The base hardware appears the same in terms of pre-out voltage, processor, flash memory size, etc.
This is not an official Pioneer forum, it is an enthusiast forum. When actual, hard facts are released, rest assured someone will post them here within minutes. If they are not, it's because no one knows yet.
The x930bt is in stock at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-AVIC-X930BT-Navigation-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B004HW6F8I/
That is exactly the issue. The attitude from their support is the worst I have ever seen and I hope they do pay the price for it. I will never but another Pio mostly because of this. And the fact that I am fixing to go full iPad in my dash which will blow away any Pio unit.
So if you claim you wont buy another pioneer unit... why exactly are you here?
Because I can be. Why are you here?
I'm here b/c i want to learn about my new unit and hear about news on the software update. Seriously, 6000 posts on a board that get's like 10 posts a day? Got your picture on your profile and everything? If you don't plan to buy another pioneer, you already know all the answers, and you dont support pioneer anymore then what's the point of adding to that grand total? It's not like you help anyone either. You seriously contribute nothing in 90% of the threads i read. Instead of pointing someone to a useful thread you reply with one sentence of rudeness. I could understand if you worked for the site but i dont get it. Maybe it's time to move on?
Nice Civic.. got an awesome exhaust system on it too? lol
Nope, no exhaust.
Edit: Nevermind. I'll leave you guys to it.
VBlue42 is alright. He's on here every day and probably gets tired of the exact same questions being asked over and over again, in new threads.
Differences with the x930BT:
As it's not out yet, the only hard evidence anyone has is from Pioneers product page and the CES show where it was shown. Any and all information about the unit is coming from one of those two sources, and has already been repeated here - several times
x920bt -> x930bt software update
Transferring Voice Commands to X930BT?
AVIC-X920BT now + upgrade or wait for AVIC-X930BT?
i think i got an x930bt where can i get info on it
Pioneer has updated its NAV Unit Page - Z130BT & X930BT
All asking variations on the same questions that currently have the same answers, or asking questions that no one could possibly have answers to yet since the unit isn't available.
Going solely by information provided by Pioneer (i.e. not speculation or friend of a friend rumors) the following are the known differences:
It has a volume button.
It has a partially detachable face - we're not really sure exactly what that means.
No VR support.
Pioneer has announced there will be a software update that brings the software-level features (like App mode, new maps, etc) of the x930bt to the x920bt. They have also confirmed that said update will not disable VR support on x920bt units. No other information on this update has been announced, however, if we go by the way last year's worked, it will come out a month or two after the x930bt is commercially available, and cost $150+ or so. It will include the OS update and 2011 maps.
Nothing else other than what you read on Pioneers site is known. The base hardware appears the same in terms of pre-out voltage, processor, flash memory size, etc.
This is not an official Pioneer forum, it is an enthusiast forum. When actual, hard facts are released, rest assured someone will post them here within minutes. If they are not, it's because no one knows yet.
That is no excuse to be rude to members looking for help, I agree search is your friend, It is no wonder this site is slow on posts.
Just my opinion.
Bill
So there is an excuse to come here and post questions that have already been answered numerous times without even bothering to search for the answer or read the manual?
So there is an excuse to come here and post questions that have already been answered numerous times without even bothering to search for the answer or read the manual?
If everyone read the manual there would be no use for this site and you. Tell me, Just what is this site for if you can't ask for help and get rude remarks? And some arn't as search savy as you might be.
Just wonderong Mr VBlue.
Bill
Weird that the 930 seems to be in some peoples hands yet there isnt much info on it besides the physical chagnes.
there nothing big except physical and the lack of vr that is it
You know, I think there's a point in there somewhere. Something does seem wrong here. Where are all the posts about people counting down the release of the new units? There's almost no hype for them. It seems that either the market for this type of product is drying up, or Pioneer has just done a horrible, horrible job with previous units that people have been scared off. I know I'll never buy another one based on my experiences with the bluetooth phone connectivity and Pioneer's attitude about it. Add the lack of hackability and all the wow just seems to be gone.
VBLUE scared them all off.